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> <channel><title>Comments on: Bottom Feeders: The Ass End of the &#8217;80s, Part 20</title> <atom:link href="http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/</link> <description>your daily dose of pop culture</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:13:14 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/comment-page-1/#comment-52028</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:54:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=3613#comment-52028</guid> <description>A technicality.  I gave Elvis your address.  He and Patrick Swayze (if he&#039;s healthy) will be over soon to open up a can of whoop-ass.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A technicality.  I gave Elvis your address.  He and Patrick Swayze (if he&#39;s healthy) will be over soon to open up a can of whoop-ass.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: steed</title><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/comment-page-1/#comment-52027</link> <dc:creator>steed</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:02:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=3613#comment-52027</guid> <description>Hey, there&#039;s a period there. That&#039;s two different sentences. No need for Elvis to kick my ass.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, there&#39;s a period there. That&#39;s two different sentences. No need for Elvis to kick my ass.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/comment-page-1/#comment-39725</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:54:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=3613#comment-39725</guid> <description>A technicality.  I gave Elvis your address.  He and Patrick Swayze (if he&#039;s healthy) will be over soon to open up a can of whoop-ass.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A technicality.  I gave Elvis your address.  He and Patrick Swayze (if he&#39;s healthy) will be over soon to open up a can of whoop-ass.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10525</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:54:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=3613#comment-10525</guid> <description>A technicality.  I gave Elvis your address.  He and Patrick Swayze (if he&#039;s healthy) will be over soon to open up a can of whoop-ass.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A technicality.  I gave Elvis your address.  He and Patrick Swayze (if he&#39;s healthy) will be over soon to open up a can of whoop-ass.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: steed</title><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10524</link> <dc:creator>steed</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:02:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=3613#comment-10524</guid> <description>Hey, there&#039;s a period there. That&#039;s two different sentences. No need for Elvis to kick my ass.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, there&#39;s a period there. That&#39;s two different sentences. No need for Elvis to kick my ass.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10531</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:19:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=3613#comment-10531</guid> <description>I just read that article--it&#039;s like an emotional roller coaster.  Now I know why I&#039;ve only heard &quot;Buffalo Stance&quot; on the radio once in 20 years...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read that article&#8211;it&#39;s like an emotional roller coaster.  Now I know why I&#39;ve only heard &#8220;Buffalo Stance&#8221; on the radio once in 20 years&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10523</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:51:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=3613#comment-10523</guid> <description>You&#039;re right, Dave is the original culprit behind the Jack Wagner reference, so my apologies for that. (Though your reference was a bit meaner than Dave&#039;s, as I can&#039;t imagine  Elvis ever saw himself as &quot;competing&quot; for chart positions with the Jack Wagners of the world.  I would guess (hope?) he saw &quot;Every Day I Write the Book&quot; and &quot;The Only Flame in Town&quot; as genre exercises, not blatant single attempts.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Responding to both your &quot;tradeoff&quot; comment and jerm&#039;s comment about the press regarding H&amp;O as &quot;goofy white guys doing &#039;black&#039; music&quot;:  I will certainly grant that H&amp;O were hardly considered &quot;cool&quot; by the music press, and I do think Hall always has carried something of a chip on his shoulder over not being hailed as a &quot;major rock artist&quot; so much as a &quot;pop craftsman.&quot;  But he wanted that recognition not only for &quot;Sacred Songs&quot; and his side projects but for his H&amp;O work as well.  I certainly don&#039;t think he believed himself to be writing songs for &quot;housewives and their kids&quot; (ouch!).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All of that said, as I remember it there was a decent amount of rock-crit respect for H&amp;O&#039;s (Hall&#039;s especially) ability to make a record like &quot;I Can&#039;t Go for That&quot; or &quot;One on One&quot; that could climb high up the R&amp;B charts in a post-disco era when crossover in either direction was difficult.  And while there was less of a tendency back then (as compared to now) for critics to hail an artist/album/song&#039;s quality as &quot;pop,&quot; H&amp;O usually got a decent amount of credit in the press for their success in honing the sound they&#039;d been crafting since the &#039;70s into the hitmaking machine it became in the early &#039;80s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, to the extent that Hall was disappointed by his press treatment, he really should have sucked it up and resumed counting his money.  Hopefully he&#039;s doing that now while waiting for the RnR Hall of Fame to call.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re right, Dave is the original culprit behind the Jack Wagner reference, so my apologies for that. (Though your reference was a bit meaner than Dave&#39;s, as I can&#39;t imagine  Elvis ever saw himself as &#8220;competing&#8221; for chart positions with the Jack Wagners of the world.  I would guess (hope?) he saw &#8220;Every Day I Write the Book&#8221; and &#8220;The Only Flame in Town&#8221; as genre exercises, not blatant single attempts.)</p><p>Responding to both your &#8220;tradeoff&#8221; comment and jerm&#39;s comment about the press regarding H&#038;O as &#8220;goofy white guys doing &#39;black&#39; music&#8221;:  I will certainly grant that H&#038;O were hardly considered &#8220;cool&#8221; by the music press, and I do think Hall always has carried something of a chip on his shoulder over not being hailed as a &#8220;major rock artist&#8221; so much as a &#8220;pop craftsman.&#8221;  But he wanted that recognition not only for &#8220;Sacred Songs&#8221; and his side projects but for his H&#038;O work as well.  I certainly don&#39;t think he believed himself to be writing songs for &#8220;housewives and their kids&#8221; (ouch!).</p><p>All of that said, as I remember it there was a decent amount of rock-crit respect for H&#038;O&#39;s (Hall&#39;s especially) ability to make a record like &#8220;I Can&#39;t Go for That&#8221; or &#8220;One on One&#8221; that could climb high up the R&#038;B charts in a post-disco era when crossover in either direction was difficult.  And while there was less of a tendency back then (as compared to now) for critics to hail an artist/album/song&#39;s quality as &#8220;pop,&#8221; H&#038;O usually got a decent amount of credit in the press for their success in honing the sound they&#39;d been crafting since the &#39;70s into the hitmaking machine it became in the early &#39;80s.</p><p>So, to the extent that Hall was disappointed by his press treatment, he really should have sucked it up and resumed counting his money.  Hopefully he&#39;s doing that now while waiting for the RnR Hall of Fame to call.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jerm</title><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10522</link> <dc:creator>jerm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:56:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=3613#comment-10522</guid> <description>Daryl Hall also sang background on INXS&#039; &quot;Original Sin (Dream On)&quot; which pre-dated &quot;The Only Flame In Town&quot; by a few months. INXS and Elvis Costello were considered &quot;alternative&quot; back then. Artists only college radio and those rare &quot;modern rock&quot; stations (KROQ, for example) would touch. Apparently, Daryl&#039;s a huge Elvis C. fan. Not sure how the colloboration came about, though...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039; s not the first time Hall has been paired up with a member of the rock underground. His first solo album, SACRED SONGS, was produced by the ultra-avant garde, Robert Fripp. It&#039;s a great record and highly recommended.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H&amp;O were never considered &quot;cool&quot; by snobby, rock press during their commerical heydey in the 80s. Nowadays, those same critics are realizing how truly great H&amp;O were. Me thinks they are just trying to be ironic, like the rock press tends to do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I firmly believe that if H&amp;O were black they would be deemed musical geniuses. But since they were goofy white guys doing &quot;black&quot; music, they got written off. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And it&#039;s a shame because when it comes to extremely well-crafted pop/soul...no one comes close.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daryl Hall also sang background on INXS&#39; &#8220;Original Sin (Dream On)&#8221; which pre-dated &#8220;The Only Flame In Town&#8221; by a few months. INXS and Elvis Costello were considered &#8220;alternative&#8221; back then. Artists only college radio and those rare &#8220;modern rock&#8221; stations (KROQ, for example) would touch. Apparently, Daryl&#39;s a huge Elvis C. fan. Not sure how the colloboration came about, though&#8230;</p><p>That&#39; s not the first time Hall has been paired up with a member of the rock underground. His first solo album, SACRED SONGS, was produced by the ultra-avant garde, Robert Fripp. It&#39;s a great record and highly recommended.</p><p>H&#038;O were never considered &#8220;cool&#8221; by snobby, rock press during their commerical heydey in the 80s. Nowadays, those same critics are realizing how truly great H&#038;O were. Me thinks they are just trying to be ironic, like the rock press tends to do.</p><p>I firmly believe that if H&#038;O were black they would be deemed musical geniuses. But since they were goofy white guys doing &#8220;black&#8221; music, they got written off.</p><p>And it&#39;s a shame because when it comes to extremely well-crafted pop/soul&#8230;no one comes close.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: flaregun</title><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10539</link> <dc:creator>flaregun</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:26:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=3613#comment-10539</guid> <description>Grabbed the third best song on your BF countdown, the Robt Cray tune â€œDonâ€™t Be Afraid of the Darkâ€, as I already had the Elvis and Julian Cope songs.  The rest are meh.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grabbed the third best song on your BF countdown, the Robt Cray tune â€œDonâ€™t Be Afraid of the Darkâ€, as I already had the Elvis and Julian Cope songs.  The rest are meh.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: scrumble</title><link>http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10521</link> <dc:creator>scrumble</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:22:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=3613#comment-10521</guid> <description>Wait, it wasn&#039;t me who mentioned Jack Wagner relative to EC. And, by 1986 it was the beginning of the post-MTV era where these kind of hit singles weren&#039;t pursued.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course Hall wanted to be seen as more credible and artistically inclined than he was at the time. He still does, although things have leveled off a bit with time. Such was the trade-off in appealing to housewives and their kids. &quot;The Only Flame&quot; is OK kitsch now but it was definitely savaged at the time.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, it wasn&#39;t me who mentioned Jack Wagner relative to EC. And, by 1986 it was the beginning of the post-MTV era where these kind of hit singles weren&#39;t pursued.</p><p>Of course Hall wanted to be seen as more credible and artistically inclined than he was at the time. He still does, although things have leveled off a bit with time. Such was the trade-off in appealing to housewives and their kids. &#8220;The Only Flame&#8221; is OK kitsch now but it was definitely savaged at the time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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