Bottom Feeders: The Ass End of the ’80s, Part 54

Dave Steed June 3, 2009 39

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So, I took the readers’ challenge (sort of) last week. I said that I knew nothing from Gordon Lightfoot except for the song I posted — “Baby Step Back” — and “The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.” On Thursday of last week, I borrowed The Complete Greatest Hits, a 2002 Rhino collection of tunes from Mr. Lightfoot, and listened from start to finish.

The first thing I can say is that Gordon really isn’t that bad. It’s not really my type of music, and I doubt I’d ever go back to it again, but that guy is a pretty smooth and mellow cat. I was told specifically that I had to know both “If You Could Read My Mind” and “Sundown.” Well, you got me halfway, at least. I had never heard “If You Could Read My Mind” before. I’m sure of that. “Sundown,” on the other hand, you were correct about — I definitely recognize that tune. I guess I had never heard Gordon’s name with it, because by title alone, it didn’t mean anything to me. The other 16 tunes were completely foreign to me, including the other ’80s track, “Stay Loose.” All in all, I knew 3 songs out of the 20 on the greatest-hits disc, so apparently I still can’t enter Canada.

And now, back to the ’80s — enjoy the 20 songs below that charted no higher than #41 on the Billboard Hot 100 during that decade.

lisa-lisaLisa Lisa & Cult Jam (with Full Force)
“Can You Feel the Beat” — 1985, #69 (download)
“Someone to Love Me for Me” — 1987, #78 (download)

These are two of the weaker tracks from Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam compared to megahits “Head to Toe” and “Lost in Emotion.” I think I’ve always been a bit confused as to what role Cult Jam played in the success of the group. I mean, the two guys that make up Cult Jam played the music, but the reality of it is that the six-member posse of Full Force wrote and produced all the material. Since they were artists in their own right, I’m not quite sure why Cult Jam was even necessary. In fact, despite not having any Hot 100 hits of their own, Full Force was actually pretty damn good. Their second album, Full Force Get Busy 1 Time!, is better than any Lisa Lisa album. Either way, there were lots of hands in the mix on all of Lisa Lisa’s music.

Little Richard
“Great Gosh A’mighty” — 1986, #42 (download)

This was Little Richard’s shot at a comeback. Macon, Georgia’s self-proclaimed inventor of rock ‘n’ roll was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as part of the first class when it opened in 1986. He then hooked up with Billy Preston to help him write this song, which was produced by Dan Hartman and ended up on the Down and Out in Beverly Hills soundtrack. While it wasn’t exactly the comeback he was looking for, he still woooos and yeeeeahs to packed houses all over the world.

Little River Band
“It’s Not a Wonder (Live)” — 1980, #51 (download)
“Playing to Win” — 1985, #60 (download)

little-river-bandLittle River Band have never been on my radar, though they had five top 20 hits from 1980 to ’82. When I think Little River Band, I think light country-rock, which isn’t necessarily accurate, but for some reason they fall into that category for me. So of course the two songs we have here are a cool live rock ‘n’ roll track and a pretty crappy, almost prog-ish song. It seemed to be around 1983′s The Net that Little River Band made a conscious effort to update their sound to be more “’80s.” You can hear the change with 1983′s “You’re Driving Me Out of My Mind,” which was a very poppy song with a horn section, and then 1985′s “Playing to Win,” the prog-rock song I just mentioned. They even changed their name by that point, going simply by LRB.

Little Steven & the Disciples of Soul
“Forever” — 1982, #63 (download)

“Forever” is from Steven Van Zandt’s first “solo” record, Men Without Women, which was released while he was still a member of the E-Street Band. All the members of the E Street Band play on the album, including the Boss who actually goes uncredited. While the song doesn’t sound like anything too far from what the E Street Band would have done, my only issue is that I’m not a fan of Van Zandt as a vocalist. Harmonies are fine, but as a lead, he’s not a favorite of mine.

living-colourLiving Colour
“Open Letter (To a Landlord)” — 1989, #82 (download)

Living Colour is one of my favorite groups of all time. “Open Letter” is my favorite track off their amazing debut, Vivid. They didn’t really have all that spectacular of a career, but they of course will always be remembered as one of the first all-black rock bands to get prominent face time on MTV. As the years went on, they got increasingly quirkier with their music, ending with the odd, dark, and aggressive Stain (1993). They got back together in 2000 and released Collideoscope (2003), which was actually a decent album. Word is, they’re currently working on a new record for release later this year. (Nothing like getting back together and then waiting six years between records.)

Living in a Box
“So the Story Goes” — 1987, #91 (download)

Showing the weird way my mind works, I remember Living in a Box less for their music but more for the display of their first single on MTV:

Living in a Box
“Living in a Box”
Living in a Box
Chrysalis Records

There may have been some before it, but it was the first time I had ever seen the name of the artist, song, and album the same and thus repeated on the video display three times. It sticks with me to this day.

I actually dig “So the Story Goes” a lot more than the smash self-titled single, both off their self-titled debut album. They released one more album in ’89 called Gatecrashing before breaking up.

LL Cool J
“I’m Bad” — 1987, #84 (download)

“I’m Bad” was James Todd Smith’s introduction to the Billboard Hot 100 chart, from his second album, Bigger and Deffer. This is widely considered to be the first rap song with the word “motherfucker” in it to get major airplay.

Lobo
“Holdin’ On for Dear Love” — 1980, #75 (download)

Thank you, Internet. You know, right until this very moment I had no idea Lobo was a person. I just assumed they were a group. Released in December of 1979, Lobo is a blip on the radar of ’80s music, so I never really paid much attention. But lo and behold this was the 16th and final Hot 100 hit for him before a brief run on the country charts.

Kenny Loggins
“I’ll Be There” — 1985, #88 (download)
“Playing With the Boys” — 1986, #60 (download)
“I’m Gonna Miss You” — 1988, #82 (download)
“Tell Her” — 1989, #76 (download)

logginsI love Kenneth Loggins, no two ways about it. He’s got such supersmooth pop vocals and such well-written, extremely catchy songs that it’s hard to not enjoy something from him at the very least. Even if it’s only “Footloose” or “I’m Alright,” that’s okay, but his lesser singles were some of his best. The most remarkable thing is that he had 17 Hot 100 hits in the ’80s, having released only three albums (1982′s High Adventure, 1985′s Vox Humana, and 1988′s Back to Avalon). Of course that’s because seven of those tracks were on soundtracks (both “Meet Me Half Way” and “Nobody’s Fool” would end up on Back to Avalon). All three albums are good, but High Adventure is the best of the three. For me, though, it wasn’t about Kenny Loggins’s albums, as he’s a singles dude — I’ll take “Heart to Heart,” cowritten with Michael McDonald and David Foster, any day. Actually, if you take a look at the list of 17, there isn’t a bad song in the bunch. So here’s what you do if you want the Kenny Loggins of the ’80s in one place: you buy the excellent The Essential Kenny Loggins (2002) and add these four songs to the end. That double-disc greatest-hits comp contains none of the songs posted here, but includes the other 13 from the decade. How ’bout that.

Lone Justice
“Ways to Be Wicked” — 1985, #71 (download)
“Sweet, Sweet Baby (I’m Falling)” — 1985, #73 (download)
“Shelter” — 1987, #47 (download)

Lone Justice had its chance and the right people helping out but for some reason never really made it. Lead singer Maria McKee had the chops and the music was written and produced by superstars but the roots-rock-pop sound just never found its niche for them. “Ways to Be Wicked” was written by Tom Petty and Mike Campbell while “Sweet, Sweet Baby” was written by Little Steven and Benmont Tench. Van Zandt also had a hand in writing “Shelter” with McKee. In addition, McKee tried a relationship with Tench for a while and yet somehow the pieces never fit. McKee went solo in ’88.

Loose Ends
“Hangin’ on a String (Contemplating)” — 1985, #43 (download)

Loose Ends were an English R&B band that had a semi-successful run on the R&B charts in the ’80s. They had nine songs hit that chart, including the excellent “Slow Down” (#1) and “Watching You (Watching Me)” (#2), but this was their only crossover onto the Hot 100.

Denise Lopez
“If You Feel It” — 1988, #94 (download)

Denise Lopez is pure middle ground for me. Nothing really good, nothing really bad and 100 percent interchangeable with probably 20 other artists. Good for her that she got caught up in this late ’80s freestyle dance movement and had her 15 minutes of fame. She actually had a Top 40 hit with “Sayin’ Sorry (Don’t Make It Right),” so maybe she got 16 minutes.

Los Lobos
“Will the Wolf Survive” — 1985, #78 (download)

I’m sure I’m just not thinking of them right now, but were there any other Latino bands to have Hot 100 hits in the decade? If there are, they certainly weren’t as big as Los Lobos. Even though they only had three Hot 100 hits and will forever be remembered in the pop world for their cover of “La Bamba” they were (and still are) a very well respected and critically loved group. “Will the Wolf Survive” is an amazing track from them, taken a year later and covered by Waylon Jennings who took it to #5 on the country charts.

QUICK HITS
Best song: Living Colour, “Open Letter (To a Landlord)”
Worst song: Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam, “Someone to Love Me for Me”

Next week we love the bride and get a final “encore” of the letter L.

  • http://playitandbedamned.blogspot.com/ Rob

    Damn, this was a good week.

    Los Lobos. Lone Justice. Living Color. And (oh yes) one of my favorite songs of all time, “Forever” by Little Stee and the Disciples of Soul. Besides all the E-Streeters, the band also featured the late Jean Beauvoir, formerly of the Plasmatics, a BFTAEOTE alum and one-time Ramones producer. This song still gives me shivers to this day. Myself? I love Little Steven's vocals on this. I forgot: Did Stevie's “Sun City” already get covered or did it actually hit the top 40 despite all the white stations refusing to play it because of all the rappers?

    I met Vernon Reid of Living Color once at the New Music Seminar a while ago. A great guitarist and truly a nice and down-to-earth guy.

    My long-neglected blog, Play It and Be Damned (see the Popdose blogroll), has a story about my encounter with Lisa Lisa, Cult Jam and Full Force back in the day – and how I got a new measure of respect for them. At least in the case of Full Force. If you think about it, they were pretty groundbreaking. And their stuff doesn't sound as dated as other hits from the 80s. That said, I agree with you: Their non-hits were nowhere near as good as their hits.

    But I'm sorry. I can't agree with you about Kenny Loggins. I'll take Michael McDonald over him any day.

  • David_E

    Petty's version of “Ways To Be Wicked” absolutely rocks, and it's worth searching out for any fans of McKee's cover. Especially fun are the liner notes (it's part of the Playback box set), where Petty chuckles his way through the memory of McKee taking endless shit during live performances for singing his line “You ain't afraid to let me have it. You ain't afraid to stick it in.”

    My timeline is all messed up. I simply can't remember a world where the Little River Band shared a chart (85) with Lisa Lisa.

    David_E
    “David_E”
    David_E
    Popdose Comments

  • http://www.sonicclash.com/ Mike

    *I grew up in the same Brooklyn neighborhood that spawned Full Force, and it was not uncommon for a wildly expensive car driven by Bow Legged Lou or one of the other Full Force guys (they had the best stage names in the business) to barrel down the street in mid-afternoon, interrupting the street touch-football game that my friends and I had set up. Aside from the obvious Brooklyn pride, I always thought Full Force were an underrated band. Not only did they write and produce Lisa Lisa's run of hits, but they also produced a couple of other guilty pleasure hits, like UTFO's “Roxanne, Roxanne” and Samantha Fox's “Naughty Girls Need Love Too” and “I Wanna Have Some Fun”. Their own albums weren't bad either, I have a Greatest Hits comp of theirs that I still spin occasionally to this day.

    *I, like Rob, had the pleasure of meeting Vernon Reid, who also grew up not very far from me in Brooklyn. Meeting him was one of my favorite celebrity-encounter moments of all time, not only because he was an extremely nice person, but also because I got to (very inarticulately) tell him how Living Colour turned me on to hard rock music as a kid. They were the first rock band I saw that looked like me.

    *You forgot to mention the coolest thing about Kenny Loggins' “I'll Be There”! El DeBarge sings co-lead vocals on that song, pairing two of the smoothest pop/soul vocalists around for the first and only time!!

  • OJ Incandenza

    Re Living in a Box: the only other time I remember that happening was Art in America's “Art in America”, off 'Art in America'.

    And … damn. Maybe my least favorite Living Colour song (excepting Collideoscope, which never did it for me), but no “Middle Man”, no “Solace of You”, no “Elvis is Dead”, nothing at all from Type or Stain anywhere near the Top 100. That's too bad.

  • http://popdose.com MatthewBolin

    “Essential Kenny Loggins”

    Those words….I understand them all, but somehow, they don't look right together.

  • http://www.wordsandrewtonkin.com/ andrewTee

    Re your question about there being other Hot 100-charting Latino rockers in the 80's. I got curious and snooped around on Wikipedia for a bit.

    Santana would appear to qualify, and he/they had a number of charting hits that decade, including “Winning.” The only other breakout Latino rock act seems to be Cruzados, who either didn't release any singles or didn't have hits with them.

    Bottom Feeders is the (OK, a) highlight of my week; your almost-scary knowledge of the music and dogged collecting of same are inspirations to me.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    I agree, I think this is a very good week.

    “Sun City” actually went to #38 – so not part of the series.

    I'll have to go read the story about Lisa Lisa. I agree, I love a lot of the Full Force work I just wonder where they really missed the mark. Something should have come together to make them bigger than they were.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    Ha. I always try to inspire others. :)

    Santana, yes – I did forget about him. We'll have three from him later on. Good call. Cruzados did have three singles on the Rock Charts – but never crossed over to the Hot 100.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    Aw – son-of-a-bitch. I missed a chance for another El Debarge sighting.

  • theroux

    Talk Talk
    Talk Talk
    Talk Talk
    Some Label

    Thats the one that sticks with me. One word. That's it. Insanity!

  • Jerry

    This is probably my favorite week yet. I can't argue with Living Colour for best song, but Lisa Lisa for worst? C'mon! Give me a well-meaning R&B ballad with a cheesy spoken word interlude any day, especially when the band members address each other by name. “Hey, Paul Anthony, why don't you say somethin' to all the lovers out there?” Classic.

  • http://www.bullz-eye.com DavidMedsker

    The Talk Talk album was actually called The Party's Over.

  • http://www.bullz-eye.com DavidMedsker

    Wow, listen to how hard that keyboardist is trying in the intro to that Denise Lopez song! Man, I was a DJ back then, and I have no memory of that song.

    As for same band, song and album title:

    Icehouse
    “Icehouse”
    Icehouse
    Chrysalis Records

  • http://myspace.com/DJChrisXmusic Chris X

    well, I've had stuff to talk about for 2 weeks in a row now, I'd say we're back on track!

    “Living in a Box”. by Living In a Box, from the album Living In a Box! True story: I can never refer to the song by it's name alone, I have to give it the full treatment EVERY SINGLE TIME I TALK ABOUT IT, and even got my girlfriend (who didnt know the song, or many of the other great songs of this wonderful decade til she had the (mis)fortune of meeting me) doing the same. Not digging this other song of theirs so much.

    I always had a soft spot for Lisa Lisa. And Cult Jam. And Full Force. And whatever other army of dudes she had backing her at any given moment. que cera, que cera! “Can You Feel the Beat” is a good one, very freestyle, which is probably the biggest guilty pleasure of my musical taste (there is a show this weekend featuring Expose, The Cover Girls, Lil Suzy, Brenda K. Starr, and about 7 others that I want to goto badly, but sadly have prior obligations…woe is me…)

    Little Steven is better left playing with The Boss. No need for solo projects from E Streeters.

    No interest in anything the Little River Band have to say besides “Reminiscing” ..seriously, what a great song.

    Living Colour's “Open Letter to a Landlord” is a PHENOMENAL song, and it's hitting especially hard this year with the pending implosion of the Spectrum. Seriously, apply (most of) the lyrics to that hallowed building's impending doom, it fits perfectly for someone who lives, breathes, sleeps, eats, and drinks orange and black like myself (steed, you're from the area, you know what I mean-everyone else can just carry on thinking I'm a weirdo) I am demanding my videographer friend use this song as the soundtrack to his upcoming Spectrum tribute DVD.

    I hate Kenny Loggins more than you hate Corey Hart. He needs to drive down the highway to the Dangerzone and stay there.

    Finally, LL Cool J's “I'm Bad” is badass. Seriously, great song. Always been a fan of his.

  • MichaelFortes

    Lisa Lisa herself is also Latina.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    Actually, so is Denise Lopez now that I look. Well, that was a silly question then. The mind didn't put two and two together this week. Gotta get off the crack.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    Yes, I understand. I'm more into those teams in the other stadiums (I'm wearing vintage powder blue and maroon sneakers now) but I get you.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed
  • http://myspace.com/DJChrisXmusic Chris X

    wow. I'm not even a baseball fan, but those are pretty sweet. I need to find me some Flyers sneakers.

  • TuffGong

    When I read “Essential Kenny Loggins” all I could think of the whole time was this:

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  • Elaine

    Today I heard that awful Steve Perry duet “Don't Fight It” at the orthodontist's office. What a crap song. I'm sure it's on Kenny's Essentials, right?

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    I'm fairly sure that Living In A Box indicates you're homeless… Something the individual members of Living In A Box may well be by now.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    Sounds like an additive, don't it? Total has your daily requirement of essential vitamins, minerals and Loggins.

  • RoyBatty

    Iron Maiden
    “Iron Maiden”
    Iron Maiden
    EMI

  • OJ Incandenza

    Did Nuclear Valdez make the cut? That's the only other one I can think of right off hand.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    I had never seen that Bill Maher clip – funny.

    My buddies and I used to have a running joke about wanting to see some Kenny Loggins Roasters – show the Gambler who's boss. Too late now I suppose.

  • Matt

    Damn, you beat me to it. Too bad Black Sabbath never made a video. And Talk Talk spoiled the fun by naming their debut album “The Party's Over”

  • Elysium

    The tracks from the Time's Up (Type, Solace For You, Elvis Is Dead) and Stain albums were from the early 1990s. So, they would not be eligible anyway. Some of the tracks did well on the Modern Rock charts, missing the Hot 100, no idea how close they got.

  • Sharon

    Love this week! Of course, I'm partial because I am a Loggins fan. I am such a pop junkie. I do have the “Essential” and all the others! Naturally. Not sure how you can like McDonald, but not Loggins. I like them both, but that's probably a given. Looking forward to next week!

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    Finally. Someone shows some love for Mr. Kenny Loggins.

  • kingofgrief

    Before The Party's Over was released, there was an eponymous Talk Talk EP with their namesake tune and (I believe) three other tracks that would resurface on the album. So for the early part of the video's existence, the MTV credit did indeed read:

    Talk Talk
    “Talk Talk”
    Talk Talk
    EMI America Records

    But I'm jumping the gun by a few months…

  • kingofgrief

    I had the One-Sided Single of “Don't Fight It”. Anyone remember those? It was a CBS promotion: “Get the Hit! Special Low Price”. You paid .59 and sacrificed the B-side. I also had Ricky Skaggs' “Heartbroke”, and my best friend found “Sexual Healing” at a thrift store. (That did NOT come out right…)

  • kingofgrief

    Every time I refer to it (and it's more frequently than most of the known universe) it's always “Living in a box…living in a cardboard box”. It's an effective lyrical hook, gotta give them that.

    I'm reminded of the early days of my music retail career (almost twenty years ago!) when confused clubbers would come in and pick up the Living in a Box album, thinking they were getting “LIVING IN Oblivion” by Anything BOX. I'd always have to sing part of the chorus to set them straight.

    This is my first time to hear “So the Story Goes” and this would be worthy of my show. Hereby keeping an eye out for the album and/or its accompanying 12″ers…

  • WHarrisBullzEye

    I gotta tell ya, I love “Great Gosh A'Mighty.” More than once, I came very close to picking up the soundtrack to “Down and Out in Beverly Hills” just so I could own a copy of the song. Getting it here makes this week's column worthwhile.

    The Little River Band produced some of my favorite pop singles of the late '70s and early '80s, but by 1985, they pretty much NEEDED to change their name to LRB, given how few members of the original line-up were still in the band. This problem has only gotten worse over the years, to the point where – last I heard – the band was touring with precisely ZERO members of the original line-up.

    For those of you wondering about the whereabouts of the members of Living in a Box, allow me to steer you over to Amazon, where you can sample the tracks from lead singer Richard Darbyshire's most recent album, “Love Will Provide”: http://www.amazon.com/Love-Will-Provide/dp/B001

    I can't believe “Shelter” wasn't a top-40 hit. It might be true, but I still can't believe it. It seemed like it was played every other song when it was first released.

    Lastly, I'd just like to say that I have a television set signed by Living Colour. I won it from WNOR (FM 99) in Norfolk when the band was passing through on the “Vivid” tour, and Vernon Reid signed the top of it, “I'm the smiling face on your TV.” It still works, and it's in my daughter's room at this very moment.

  • kingofgrief

    Great anecdote about the TV set. Take pictures of that!

    I was surprised to see that “Great Gosh A'Mighty” charted as high as it did. I never heard it on the radio, only in ads for D&OiBH. Of course, my favorite single to chart as a result of that movie will be discussed alongside “Talk Talk” in a future entry.

  • Sharon

    Doesn't really amount to much. Everyone seems to dislike him and/or think he's so not cool. Ah well. I'm not that cool. It's weird though, I still come back to Popdose, day after day…

  • Russ

    How 'bout Joe “king” Carrasco? I know, no Hot 100 appearances, but “Buena” got airplay on some better stations.

  • Russ

    How 'bout Joe “king” Carrasco? I know, no Hot 100 appearances, but “Buena” got airplay on some better stations.

  • Russ

    How 'bout Joe “king” Carrasco? I know, no Hot 100 appearances, but “Buena” got airplay on some better stations.