Bottom Feeders: The Ass End of the ’80s, Part 65

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This past Monday my ability to come up with future IGMs (Inappropriate Ghetto Moments) was squelched by the po-po. No longer will I be able to drive through the ghetto on the way home with my iPod on Shuffle and watch the horror as crack whores hear Bette Midler’s “The Rose” blasting out my ride. See, yours truly was listening to “Mouth For War” by Pantera really loud and a fine officer in my borough pulled me over for violating the noise ordinance that was passed just a few months earlier. So rather than take the $1000 fine and the 30 days in jail, I’m going to have to turn my music down, which means I’ll pretty much just be turning it off now since music does nothing for me unless it’s loud. As a buddy pointed out, I’m so metal that my town can’t handle it. So horns high for this one, I suppose.

Now, rather than split the letter O up into two small posts, I’ve gone huge and given you the entire letter in one shot. Enjoy close to 30 tracks from the 15th letter of the alphabet as we look at more Bottom Feeders from the Billboard Hot 100 chart during the 1980s.

Oak
“Set the Night on Fire” — 1980, #71 (download)

Oak Sometimes Oak, sometimes Oak & Rick Pinette, sometimes Rick Pinette & Oak and even sometimes Oak & the Rick Pinette Band, this multinamed crew will always have a place in my musical heart. Their #36 hit earlier in 1980, “King of the Hill,” was easily the hardest of the all the top 40 songs to find and the first time I really had to dig to find a track. I searched high and low for that self-titled debut album for years with no luck, until I found not only a copy, but an autographed one at that (surely adding about 63 cents in value to it.) Their second hit, “Set the Night on Fire,” was from the album of the same name, which I still don’t own. I settled for the 45 which was also quite a pain in the ass to acquire. This was back in the day where I was excited to listen to the rarer stuff and almost forced myself to enjoy it based on the amount of work I put in. It was only later on that I realized most of these tough-to-find tracks are rare for good reason. But Oak and now-and-then Rick Pinette, you have avoided my wrath.

Oak Ridge Boys
“So Fine” — 1982, #76 (download)
“American Made” — 1983, #72 (download)

OakRidgeBoysGod, I hate the Oak Ridge Boys. “So Fine” is such a poor song. I know it was a cover of a tune by the Fiestas and I’ve never heard that version, but it can’t be any better ‘cause it’s just poorly written to begin with. Obviously, the Oak Ridge Boys didn’t think so and my taste in music is suspect anyway. But that opening two seconds of keyboards sounds exactly like an ‘80s sitcom theme song (someone tell me which one though!) Maybe the biggest problem I have with the Oak Ridge Boys is very evident on “American Made” which is that bass vocalist Richard Sterban just sounds so out of place with the other vocalists on a lot of tracks. The other problem that I have is that every time I run to the record store I have to weed through 10,000 copies of Oak Ridge Boys records and I swear that every time I find ones I’ve never seen before. They put out 16 damn albums in the decade. No one needs 16 albums in 10 years.

O’Bryan
“The Gigolo” — 1982, #57 (download)

One of the things that draws me to this song is that it really could be one of those “literal versions” of tunes that pop up now and again. I’ve never seen a video for this song but I can create one in my head that matches the lyrics word for word every time I hear it. And O’Bryan enunciates in a way that actually sounds like those home overdubs. And the other thing that’s a draw is that this is just funky as hell. If hell is funky that is.

Ric Ocasek
“Something to Grab For” — 1983, #47 (download)
“True to You” — 1986, #75 (download)

As a fan of the Cars, it’s hard not to enjoy “Something to Grab For” since it sounds so much like them. It was the first single from Ocasek’s album Beatitude (dumb name, but he had a few of those, like 1997’s Troublizing or 2005’s Nexterday.) “True to You” is from his second release This Side of Paradise. The album sounds slightly less like the Cars — well, except for this single which featured every member of the group except for drummer David Robinson and for his other hit “Emotion in Motion.” Ah, shit, either one could have been a Cars record. You ain’t foolin’ me, Ric without a K!

Off Broadway
“Stay in Time” — 1980, #51 (download)

This is the type of group that the collector in me hates but the critic in me loves. “Stay in Time” comes from their debut album On. Now you type in “Off Broadway On” into a search engine and you can actually find info on them, but back four years ago when I was looking for this album that string turned up everything showtunes and nothing rock music. Screw the cleverness and give me something that turns up in a search for pete’s sake – I want to find your music! Or maybe this is another one that only bothers me simply because I’m still learning how to use this internet thingy. The song is really cool though.

Oingo Boingo
“Weird Science” — 1985, #45 (download)
“Just Another Day” — 1986, #85 (download)

I’m going to steal King of Grief’s thunder here and give “Weird Science” his “meltie” as being the most recognizable song of the post. I love both these songs even though Oingo Boingo was never my thing. I recognize the genius of Danny Elfman as a composer though I think his scores have far surpassed the quality of the group. In small doses, maybe even just singles, I can enjoy them, but there’s really no LP (at least from the ‘80s) that I would say is a start to finish gem.

O’Jays
“Girl, Don’t Let It Get You Down” — 1980, #55 (download)

“Girl, Don’t Let It Get You Down” is a sweet, sweet song. It was the final of 27 Hot 100 hits for the group, from their 1980 release The Year 2000. They’ve had 21 R&B chart hits since this song, and the amazing thing is, all but one single since 1966’s “Stand In for Love” has hit that chart, right up through their last album in 2004. The only one that didn’t chart in the U.S. was 1984’s “Extraordinary Girl,” from the LP Love and More.

Lenore O’Malley
“First Be a Woman” — 1980, #53 (download)

I hear absolutely nothing in this other than “I Will Survive.” Apparently others did as well since Gloria Gaynor would later cover the track.

Alexander O’Neal
“Criticize” — 1987, #70 (download)

ONeal I’m a big fan of Alexander O’Neal and probably would have been a bigger fan if Prince wasn’t such a dick (with all due respect). O’Neal was the singer of Flyte Tyme, which later became simply the Time. A dispute with Prince lead to the ousting of O’Neal who was replaced by the totally awesome Morris Day so in reality everything worked out well. I mean, his 1987 album Hearsay is a classic funk record producing “Criticize” and one of my favorite songs of the decade in “Fake.” Both songs and the album were produced by former band maytes, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. And maybe for the first time that I can recall, “Criticize” is a song that isn’t immediately recognizable as a Jam & Lewis track. Pretty much every other song they’ve ever done is Janet Jackson’s “Black Cat” in a different key.

One to One
“Angel in My Pocket” — 1986, #92 (download)

One to One (later 1 to 1) were a Canadian group that released three albums from 1985-1992 with only “Angel In My Pocket” and another song in 1992 called “Peace of Mind (Love Goes On)” reaching the Hot 100. Members Leslie Howe and Louise Reny then decided they wanted more of a rock edge and joined with some other musicians to release an album in the mid-80s as Sal’s Birdland and then one album in 1997 as Artificial Joy Club.

One Way
“Cutie Pie” — 1982, #61 (download)

The biggest names you’d probably recognize in One Way were the two singers: Al Hudson and Candye Edwards. And even if you’ve never heard this song, you either know the rhythm or at least see if the influence this had on early ‘90s rap artists like Ice Cube and Coolio.

Yoko Ono
“Walking on Thin Ice” — 1981, #58 (download)

I’m not even going to remotely say I know anything about Yoko Ono other than the obvious (which for me is simply her marriage to John Lennon). As terrible as it sounds, I never got into the Beatles and the mania was over before I was born really, so Yoko is just a blip on my radar. What I can tell you about my experience with her music is that I think both Double Fantasy (1980) and Milk and Honey (1984) are masterpieces, if you take out all the Yoko Ono songs and just make them John Lennon EPs.

Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark
“Secret” — 1985, #63 (download)

It’s weird how music affects people sometimes. I can’t say a thing positive about Yoko Ono and I can’t say a negative thing about OMD. They only got a little love on the dance charts in the US before 1985 (mainly for “Enola Gay”) but their body of work at least from 1981’s Architecture & Morality through 1986’s The Pacific Age is wonderful. The latter album contains another one of my favorites in “Forever (Live and Die).” “Secret” is from Crush and is also featured in Arthur 2: On the Rocks. Seems like the makers of the TV show Degrassi: The Next Generation also dig them as both “If You Leave” and “Secret” are episode titles in the series known for titling their shows with names of hit songs.

Orion the Hunter
“So You Ran” — 1984, #58 (download)

Although I can’t say I remember these guys at all back in the ‘80s, I can certainly see why this was a hit. The group was composed of Boston guitarist Barry Goudreau and future Boston singer Fran Cosmo. “So You Ran” and their only self-titled album could very well be mistaken for a Boston record. You ain’t foolin’ me, Mr. Barry with two Rs.

Jeffrey Osborne
“Eenie Meenie” — 1983, #76 (download)
“We’re Going All the Way” — 1984, #48 (download)
“Don’t Stop” — 1984, #44 (download)
“She’s on the Left” — 1988, #48 (download)

Mr. Osborne, the former lead singer of L.T.D. had some nice funk songs in the decade, but his strong suit was really the sultry ballad. “We’re Going All the Way” is a great example of his smooth vocals while “Don’t Stop” is kind of funk-pop-light and probably unnecessary. “She’s on the Left” is actually a nice surprise in his collection, smooth and funky and all this in a time frame when pretty much every other peer of his that had been making music for the entire decade started dropping like flies.

Ozzy Osbourne
“Shot in the Dark” — 1986, #68 (download)

As a metal head it pains me to say this, but I really don’t think Ozzy is the real talent on any of his recordings. I love “Shot in the Dark” and songs like “Crazy Train” and “Perry Mason,” but the talent are the musicians surrounding him — in this case, Jake E. Lee on guitar. Don’t get me wrong, I love me some Ozzy records, but I don’t know if he ever would’ve made it without people like Tony Iommi, Zakk Wylde, and Randy Castillo around. Maybe that’s the charm of Ozzy, though.

Donny Osmond
“Hold On” — 1989, #73 (download)

I’m going to say something that I’ve only said to the closest of friends. Donny Osmond’s 1988 self-titled comeback album is actually pretty damn good.

Other Ones
“We Are What We Are” — 1987, #53 (download)

You want to know who the Other Ones are? You really want to know? They are who we thought they were!

The Outfield
“Everytime You Cry” — 1986, #66 (download)
“My Paradise” — 1989, #72 (download)

I always thought the Outfield were a very underrated group, and here they go getting buried 25 songs into the post. No respect, I tell ya. They had pretty decent success with six Hot 100 songs in the decade and two more in the ‘90s but they don’t really get mentioned with the superstars of the decade. Meanwhile songs like “Your Love” and “All the Love in the World” are ridiculously good and deserve a place in rock history next to the best. Both these songs here are great, “My Paradise” being a lost gem of the decade.

Ozark Mountain Daredevils
“Take You Tonight” — 1980, #67 (download)

Although I simply think of the Ozark Mountain Daredevils as a ‘70s band, this is a pretty awesome song off their self-titled 1980 album, which would be their last until reuniting in 1997 for one final hurrah.

QUICK HITS
Best song: The Outfield, “My Paradise”
Worst song: Oak Ridge Boys, “So Fine”

I’m going to add something new for each week since there are always comments and questions about who doesn’t have the proud distinction of being a Bottom Feeder. The “Top 40 Only” section will include all the artists who only had Top 40 hits, with the number of charting singles in parentheses next to their name.

TOP 40 ONLY
John O’Banion (1); Billy Ocean (11); Ollie & Jerry (1); One 2 Many (1); Opus (1); Roy Orbison (1); Benjamin Orr (1); Robert Ellis Orrall (1); Outlaws (1); Oxo (1)

That’s it for the letter O. Next week we invite everyone over for a pajama party and force them to listen to some prog rock.

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  • rob
    From Wikipedia:

    The Other Ones was a band that consisted mainly of Australians, but was based in Berlin in the late 1980s. Their song "Holiday" (1987) became a hit worldwide.

    The band's line-up consisted of Alf Klimek (vocals), Jayney Klimek (vocals), Johnny Klimek (bass), Andreas Schwarz-Ruszczynski (guitars), Stephan Gottwald (keyboards) and Uwe Hoffmann (drums).

    Johnny Klimek has collaborated with the German filmmaker Tom Tykwer and fellow composer Reinhold Heil on the soundtracks for Tykwer’s films Wintersleepers and Run Lola Run. He has also composed music for the HBO TV series Deadwood, John From Cincinnati and the motion picture One Hour Photo.

    My two cents: Didn't care much for that bottom feeder track, but "Holiday" was always one of my favorite singalong tracks from the 80s. Had a certain goofiness to it a la "Safety Dance" and "Tubthumping."

    I'm assuming the Robert Ellis Orrall track was "I Couldn't Say No" even though "Walking Through Landmines" deserved massive chart success. And how can we forgive the American public for giving Billy Ocean 11 (count 'em, 11) top 40 singles?
  • Rebecca
    Another Klimek note, Jayney was one third of the trio Bankstatement, a 1989 side project of Genesis keyboardist Tony Banks. Alistair Gordon does most of the vocals, with Klimek on three songs and good ol' Tony (....oh, Tony...) on one track. The songs with Klimek have a very distinct 'Til Tuesday kind of sound.

    Not Tony's best solo project -- Jack Hues and Nik Kershaw were better vocal/writing matches -- but I quite like it. A few tracks are pretty spectacular, I think.
  • jack
    "The man" telling you to turn it down... how "Footloose!" Now you have to force the town to let you dance!
  • The Man I Used To Be
    I have been looking for that Other Ones tune for ages. Thanks for the find.
  • Steve
    I too spent a very long time searching for Rick Pinette's "King Of The Hill" (just sent you a long email about it). Oak is actually OAK, an acronym for "One of A Kind." Pinette fronted a cover band in New England in the late 70's before not-really-bursting onto the national scene at the turn of the decade. In the 90's he and his wife became motivational speakers (mainly for children in schools) based in Florida.
  • You have taught me something new sir - I didn't know OAK actually was an acronym. This is why I love doing this series!
  • thefxc
    Props for the "Top 40 Only" section. I've already learned that Ben Orr's followup to "Stay the Night" failed to chart at all. I can't remember the title and for some reason it isn't on my iPod. Orr's solo work never sounded as Cars-y as Ocasek, but I'm not a big Cars fan so I may be wrong.

    Alexander O'Neal is someone I'd completely forgotten about. I remember "Criticize" being played more than "Fake" so that's something of a Meltie for me. Viva le funk!

    My impression is that a significant number of metal fans share Mr. Steed's opinion of Ozzy to the extent that they prefer the Dio-era Black Sabbath. Early Sabbath is groundbreaking, yes, but Dio was a skilled musician whereas Ozzy was a drugged-out loon who had a knack for surrounding himself with skilled musicians. Myself, I prefer the "featuring Toni Iommi" Sabbath 'cause I like trainwrecks.

    Is there a term for a band who earned their greatest chart success for their weakest material? If not, I suggest we use "OMD." In a just world "Secrets" would be the hit and "If You Leave" the Bottom Feeder. In a truly just world, OMD would have toured stadiums with U2 and REM as their opening acts after Dazzle Ships produced five top 40 singles and changed the course of popular music forever.

    Thanks again for the great column.

    PS: The Other Ones' first album is brilliant, and "We Are What We Are" may be my favorite song of this entire series. It had a lovely video too. But "Holiday" was the hit, which kinda makes them an OMD...
  • JohnHughes
    Ben Orr's follow-up single was "Too Hot to Stop:"

    http://lostinthe80s.blogspot.com/2009/06/lost-c...
  • Um, Dave. I think there's a chance that DeGrassi might have named their episode "Secret" after Madonna's song of that title, which was a #1 hit in Canada in 1994, and not the OMD song, which peaked at #31 on the Canadian charts.
  • Son of a bitch - that's what I get for using Wikipedia as my fact checker. I had been told this recently by someone who knew the song was coming up and Wikipedia confirmed it. Damn the guy on his couch editing the Degrassi page.
  • Sorry, but "American Made" is waaaaaay worse than "So Fine."

    I have a huge soft spot for that first Other Ones album. I know it's not great, but there's something about it that I just love. Their guitarist was quite the shredder, kind of like the guy in Dead or Alive ripping monster solos over Stock Aitken Waterman beats.

    That OAK song is so quaint. Ditto the Orion the Hunter song.

    Never cared much for the Outfield, but I like "Everytime You Cry." And that "Cutie Pie" song is a jam.
  • One To One were also responsible for Alanis' pre-Jagged Little Pill incarnation as Canada's answer to Debbie Gibson, and you can hear even from their song here how much Alanis later copied Louise's vocal affectation.

    And Criticize and Walking On Thin Ice are two of the best songs of the decade!

    BTW, I totally adore this column!
  • kingofgrief
    "We're gonna set the might on fire
    We're gonna burn it down...with DESIRE!"

    And the 15th letter limps out of the gate...

    "So Fine": the opening piano lick mirrors that of the theme to the 90s sitcom, Blossom., but I've heard it at the start of other tunes ("Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu" for one). As for the rest of the tune, it's just "Elvira" warmed over. Get the Fiestas version, and stick with it.

    I'll allow Elfman & co. the Meltie, but it does surprise me that "American Made" didn't get any higher than #72. Another case of our Top 40 stations acting like Southerners, I guess.

    I'm thinking of bestowing another occasional (and more personal) award: the Gigolo, which honors(?) those songs I'd completely forgotten about until hearing them again through Bottom Feeders. I can't remember the last time I heard that O'Bryan track, but I guarantee it was before I could vote or purchase cigarettes. This is getting a Club Hour spin in the near future.

    The O'Jays are one of my favorite soul groups of the '70s. And after hearing this tune, they remain one of my favorite soul groups of the '70s.

    Lenore O'Malley gets lyric-of-the-week honors: "If you want to impress/Be the opposite sex". This must have been a hit with the drag queens.

    "Walking on Thin Ice" was chosen by Blender magazine in '05 as one of the 500 greatest songs released in the previous twenty-five years. I wouldn't go that far, but I like the tune. There was a remix single issued in '03 that has some nice Pet Shop Boys retoolings.

    "Secret": if I can get flowery for a moment...one of the most giddily romantic tunes of the era. And a perfect title for the album as well. For their occasional arty pretensions, they gave us some great singles (and album cuts) in their prime. (Coincidentally, "Enola Gay" was featured in yesterday's Club Hour.)

    "So You Ran": Basically, Boston minus all the Tom Scholz I-hate-synthesizers arrogance, with a dollop of Jefferson Starship thrown in. I rescued Goudreau's '80 solo album from the clearance bin at work recently; it's currently in the get-around-to pile.

    "We Are What We Are": meh. "Holiday" was the winner out of that catalog.

    O also stands for "Okay, I'll shut up now".
  • Blossom. Jesus, I've been trying for a least a week and a half to figure that out. Thanks. Now I can sleep again instead of trying to locate the theme to Small Wonder.

    I don't get the draw of "Walking On Thin Ice" at all. Probably never will either.

    And if you think this limped out of the gate, wait a few more weeks - there's a week coming up that might be the worst of the series. (That's great hype for it, ain't it)
  • Agreed. Not sure how Walking on Thin Ice could be on anybody's list of greatest anythings.
  • ElCartero
    I think the main thing it had going for it was the historical/sentimental value of the fact that it was the last piece of music Lennon ever worked on -- the day he was shot, he and Yoko were in the studio remixing it.
  • The Man I Used To Be
    David,

    You just said in the same post "I never got into the Beatles" and "Donny Osmond’s 1988 self-titled comeback album is actually pretty damn good." I think these are two of the seven signs of the apocalypse. Really, time to buy the entire Beatles catalog my man.
  • Ha. When you put them together like that...well, you might be right. And don't think I haven't thought about buying the catalog. Thought about it is as far as I've gone though.
  • kingofgrief
    If you move beyond the thinking-about phase, wait until September 9, when the remasters hit the shelves. That's what most of my mad money is being reserved for (including the box-set-only mono issues). I'd start with Revolver and Abbey Road, followed by A Hard Day's Night for the best of the early period.
  • I do own the White Album. Just to clarify.
  • maxx40
    Janet Jackson wrote "Black Cat" all by herself but she learned from the best, Jam and Lewis.
  • Eh, bad example then but the point still makes sense. :)
  • Ray
    Off Broadway were HUGE in the Chicago area back in 1980. Their album "On" was a top 5 LP locally, then became impossible to find a year or so later when it went out of print (the few record stores that had copies, new OR used, would have you cough up at least $50 if you were lucky enough to find one!!!). Needless to say I was quite happy when Atlantic reissued it on CD in 1997. Some other tracks from the album got quite a bit of airplay in Chicago as well, most notably "Full Moon Turn My Head Around" (the b-side to "Stay In Time").

    The O'Bryan track also got lots of airplay on the R&B stations of the day. Ironically Motown great Mary Wells also had a comeback single called "Gigolo" at roughly the same time, and the first time I heard the O'Bryan song (especially the falsetto parts) I had to listen closely to be absoultely sure it WASN'T Mary Wells.
  • Russ
    Back in '97 I stopped in Tower Records on the way home from work. A band was setting up for an in-store - full band, too, no acoustic-only show. As usual I didn't pay much attention. 20 minutes later they finally start playing... it's Off Broadway! Holy Shit! They re-formed!

    The cool thing about "Stay In Time" is that the flip side "Full Moon Turn My Head Around" got just as much airplay in Chicago back in the day. Double-A-Sides are awesome.
  • Jlowry24
    I definitely agree that the Outfield are underrated - I wouldn't be surprised if most people remember them as one-hit wonders. Although to their credit, Galaxie (the CBC's TV music service in Canada) plays "Voices of Babylon" once in a while.

    Random fact about "Angel in my Pocket" (which also came up on Galaxie this afternoon) - in the original version of the song, the angel is a "she". I always wondered if they had to change it to make it more acceptable for mainstream radio. I think the guitar solo is different too.
  • Honestly, Dave, I don't think you couldn't have summed up Yoko's music any better.
  • I honestly thought I'd take some heat for that one - good to know (at least for the most part) that it isn't just me.
  • magø
    Personally, I think that Oingo Boingo's debut, "Only A Lad", is an absolute gem...

    I would also propose that the quality of OMD records probably peaked with 1984's "Junk Culture".
    While I am a fan of the final two albums featuring their original core line-up ("Crush" and "The Pacific Age"), I don't think either one is as listenable from start to finish as their previous 4 LPs.

    Just my 2¢
  • I'll have to go back and listen to the debut again and see if I'm missing something then.
  • kingofgrief
    The title cut is my favorite Boingo song. Try and track down their 10" EP from '80 for the best version.

    On a related note, I found out yesterday that Elfman provided the score for Taking Woodstock, which I might be catching a sneak preview of next week. Whoda thunkit?
  • magø
    You might not be! :)
    I just happen to think that Onigo Boingo's first three LPs on A&M were are all pretty great.

    Beats the heck out of their MCA output...
  • Old_Davy
    Off Broadway was the first rock band I ever saw in concert, as they opened for Toto in 1980. Thanks for the track, it's a keeper!
  • Don Karnage
    I was listening to a rebroadcast of American Top 40 on Sirius radio a couple weeks back, and it ended up being one of those select weeks when "King of the Hill" by Rick Pinette & Oak/OAK was in the chart. According to Mr Kasum, Mr Pinette had contacted them to claim that they were the first artist ever from Maine to have a top 40 single. Casey said this factoid "seemed to check out", which obviously left him some wiggle room if, say, the Carefrees prove to be a Bangor collective. Still, it's a useless (and utterly difficult) factoid to toss around.
  • Doug
    Wow. Billy Ocean had 11 top 40 hits in the 80's. I definitely cannot name them. I can go about as far as Caribbean Queen and Get Out of My Dreams, Get Into My Car.
  • He had 1 in 1976 too. His first three albums in the '80s (City Limits, Nights (Feel Like Getting Down) and Inner Feelings) all are quite good and have a different vibe then when he went all commercial. Of the 11, I'd bet you that you'd know at least 7 of them...

    Caribbean Queen, Loverboy, Suddenly, Mystery Lady, When the Going Gets Tough..., They'll Be Sad Songs, Love Zone, Love is Forever, Get Outta my Dreams, Colour Of Love, License to Chill.
  • Eric S.
    Nobody has mentioned that the first Off Broadway album, including "Stay in Time" was produced by Popdose contributor, Tom Werman. He hasn't mentioned them in his series, which I don't understand because that album is great power pop all the way through.

    By the way, One to One, Sal’s Birdland and Artificial Joy Club might be the three worst band names I've ever heard. No wonder those guys never went anywhere.
  • I saw the Outfield twice in concert - they rocked! Live they are an amazing band and they are also great musicians - they really surprised me live that I had to see them again. I always play My Paradise in the gym - it's my workout track for either biceps or chest. Glad to see this was "best song". Also I love the drumming in Everytime You Cry!
  • Ric Ocasek - why even bother putting out solo records if they sound just like your fulltime band? Both of these songs, and pretty much all of his solo material, are great, so whatever, keep' em comin, Ric.

    I too share a dislike of the Oak Ridge Boys. Man, pop-country sucked 25 years ago too. All I really know of them is beards, that dude with the unnaturally deep voice, and "Elvira" and man, Cassandra Peterson must be PISSED about that one. I just remember my aunts and my grandmom liking them when I was really little and me, even in my formative years, just being like "dude, seriously?"

    OMD is so goddamn great, and so criminally underrated. They only really get love and/or airplay these days for "If You Leave" and while that's a great, if not slightly unrepresentative of their real sound, song, I'm sure we only have John Hughes (RIP) and his wonderful soundtracks to thank for that. I will even go to bat for their entire catalog, even their 90's material (I thought "Stand Above Me" was a pretty good single back then)

    I share you view on Oingo Boingo. Some great stuff ("Weird Science" tops the list, though quite possibly only for the John Hughes soundtrack phenomenon described above) but overall, I'm indifferent. I'm always kinda "aw maaaan" when someone requests "Dead Man's Party" at my gigs. I always honor the request, but somewhat begrudgingly. I kinda like it, but it's just sort of a moodkiller for me when I'm spinning, I don't know why.

    As far as Ozzy goes, it's hard to imagine him as either the man fronting the incomparable Black Fucking Sabbath, or as the dude who put out those first 5 most excellent solo records without thinking of him either as pop rock dreck or the half crippled, bumbling, mind-too-fried-to-function,
    "SHAROOOOOONNN!!!" yelling puppet most of the world knows him as these days. Oh and dude, all those names you listed as carrying him goes and no shout out to Randy Rhoads? Dude. You listed ZAKK WYLDE and his bellbottoms and annoying squealing harmonics over Randy Rhoads? That, sir, is criminal.

    steed, I am going to close this week's comment out by asking a question of you that (surprisingly) nobody else has asked here. Why in the Seven Hells do you know the names of episodes of Degrassi:The Next Generation?
  • See, this is a question I must answer. I work in TV sir. I work in TV. I swear to you, I've never seen an episode.

    You have a good point there about Randy Rhoads but I could have named almost everyone he's worked with. I was listening to BLS at the time, so Zakk was at the top of my mind. I almost mentioned Mike Bordin over Castillo too before realizing the err of my ways.

    I don't think we've ever been quite so on the same page in a given week.
  • kingofgrief
    My respect for Ozzy dwindled after his back catalog was reissued with newly-recorded rhythm tracks in order not to pay his old bassist and drummer any royalties. I know this in all likelihood was Mrs. Osbourne's doing, but didn't he have the balls to intervene? And don't get me started on the you-can't-call-it-Sabbath-unless-Ozzy's-involved-and-he-never-will-be-again bullshit.
  • EricL
    One of the most underrated talents in music is the ability to find backing artists that complement your stlye while letting them be themselves, then bringing out the best in them. How many solo artists, especially solo metal artists, have been able to get backing bands that are true artists in their own right? This isn't a cut on all the wonderful sessions musicians out there - they are the unsung heroes of the music industry - I'm just pointing out that Ozzy attracts and brings out the best in the people he works with and deserves credit for that.
  • I don't disagree here and I think your comments play into my point...Ozzy (and probably quite a bit of Sharon) is a good judge of talent. He brings the right people on board to suit his style and theirs and he has such a reputation that people want to work him him, no doubt about that. But it's all the other people surrounding him that make his records worth listening to. If you take those backing bands you mention for other metal artists and put them with Ozzy - who knows if those records would be listenable at all. But I'd bet you that you put those artists with a better singer and they might be. Either way, don't get me wrong - I'm happy to put on Ozzy record whenever I can.
  • agree. Total dick move. When I heard about that re-recording nonsense, I was completely disgusted. I'm happy with my original (cassette, even) version, thank you very much.

    As far as "Heaven and Hell" goes...another dick move. Sabbath was putting out Ozzy-less records for well over 15 years, is this really a big deal suddenly? Well, I guess when Ozzy's band has to tune down several steps to match his horridly dwindling vocal capacities, and near-70 Ronnie James Dio can still belt 'em out with the power of the dragon he would so unmercifully slay if given the chance, I guess you gotta do what you gotta do to keep the competetion from overshadowing you? Like Ozzy needs any help further tarnishing his formerly formidable reputation...
  • It's a dick move no doubt - but those original Ozzy solo records are recorded like shit. They are just so muddy that they could use a really good re-master. And a better re-master than what's out there. Everyone always talks about Ozzy's dick move but what about the other artists. Yes, they need to make money too - but I wonder what reputation Mike Bordin got for doing this. Is he going to get blackballed by the metal community because of his dick move? I've never really heard that side of it.

    It's funny when you look at the Dio output with Sabbath - I mean, those first few are good - but the first reunion yielding Dehumanizer...I mean, if you really give that a listen - it's a damn fine record. "Computer God" shuffled on my iPod this morning on the way to work. Great track and at a time where most had considered them dead (following up on TYR which really isn't as bad as the one star reviews would lead you to believe)
  • no joke, I love Mob Rules and Heaven and Hell, but Dehumanizer is my favorite, and one of the most criminally underrated metal records that flew too far under the radar (see also Fight's War of Words) "Computer God", "TV Crimes" ...and the looming, ominous, apocalyptic doom intro/riff of "After All"..."What do you say to the deeeeeeaaaaaaaad"...goddamn, so badass.
  • haha, I know, right? This can only mean that we will be at complete opposite ends next week.

    Well wait...please tell me you don't hate the Pet Shop Boys?

    There would have been nothing wrong with mentioning Mike Bordin in general. As far as body of work with Ozzy goes, yeah, Castillo obviously wins, and nothing Bordin has done is worth a mention, but Faith No More! Angel Dust is one of my top 5 records of all time.
  • No, no - I don't hate the Pet Shop Boys. But you're jumping ahead of yourself - Pet Shop Boys isn't even in next week's post.

    Personally, I prefer King For A Day... - but Angel Dust does rock.
  • King for a Day has it's moments and is overall a pretty righteous record, but I think is suffering from a lack of Jim Martin.

    ok, so um..you don't hate The Payola$, do you?
  • breadalbane
    Not to worry, Payola$ never charted in the US Hot 100.

    Mind you, Paul Hyde & The Payolas charted (which has already been covered), and Rock and Hyde charted (which will presumably be covered in a few weeks)....
  • anniezaleski
    St. Louis has a club called Off Broadway (it's, um, off a street called..Broadway). But the band totally exemplifies the Midwest power-pop stuff of that time, so influenced by Cheap Trick and the like. For whatever reason, I know Off Broadway as Off Broadway USA. Makes 'em easier to find on Google.

    Also, they apparently reunited sometime recently:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXT5N9H7sFk

    If you can track down the 4-CD Yellow PIlls compilations -- curated by a St. Louis guy named Jordan Oakes -- you'll be in Midwest power-pop heaven. They're super out of print, but full of gems like this.

    Unrelated: Chromeo covered O'Bryan's "Tenderoni" in recent years.
  • I just listened to that cover - really good. In fact, I've never listened to anything from Chromeo - but I'm thinking I might have to now.

    I'll try to hunt down that comp - sounds interesting. THanks for the info.
  • Is that really a cover though? I don't have the O'Bryan song on me...but those lyrics don't seem to match up at all.
  • Deiter
    Ass End of the 80s, indeed! Nothing much here to suit my tastes here, although, it did make me rejoice in the fact that the 80s are long over. Britney Spears sounds down right ingenious compared to this lot. Barry Goudreau had quite a range and instrument, didn't he? And yet he sounds like just another (good) American Idol contender here. He and Mickey Thomas (of Fooled Around & Fell in Love and Starship fame) are completely interchangeable. Nevertheless, thanks for posting.
  • Eric S.
    That's not Goudreau on lead vocals. He used a guy named Fran Cosmo who sounds a lot like Boston's original singer, the late Brad Delp. Cosmo eventually joined Boston for some of their later albums. When I saw Boston tour four or five years ago, they were both part of the band.
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