Bottom Feeders: The Ass End of the ’80s, Part 84

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It’s the final Bottom Feeders of 2009! We’ll end ’09 and start ’10 the same way — with more artists whose names begin with the letter S and songs that charted no higher than #41 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the 1980s.

MSBMichael Stanley Band
“Lover” — 1981, #68 (download)
“Falling in Love Again” — 1981, #64 (download)
“When I’m Holding You Tight” — 1982, #78 (download)
“Take the Time” — 1982, #81 (download)
“Someone Like You” — 1983, #75 (download)

To this day I don’t know if I’ve ever heard a Michael Stanley song on the radio in Pennsylvania. He was big in the midwest and had two Top 40 hits, so he certainly got national play for a bit, but maybe that didn’t include Philadelphia, where I grew up. Most of his stuff in the ‘80s was somewhere between Springsteen and Seger, but a track like “When I’m Holding You Tight” sounds more like Loverboy or .38 Special.

Starland Vocal Band
“Loving You With My Eyes” — 1980, #71 (download)

Yikes. Checking in at #19 on my Bottom 80 Songs of the ‘80s list, this was the Starland Vocal Band’s final charting single. In a decade of sappy-ass songs, this takes the cake. How is loving you with my eyes an impossible high? I’d bet you there are 100 other ways I could get that high or higher. Thank God they at least had “Afternoon Delight” to fall back on.

Starpoint
“Restless” — 1986, #46 (download)
“He Wants My Body” — 1987, #89 (download)

Starpoint may not have hit until the ‘80s but they formed way back in ’69 and started out named Licyndiana (how the hell do you even pronounce that?). They started releasing albums as Starpoint in 1980 and had both dance & R&B hits before going Top 40 in 1985 with “Object of My Desire.” That would be their only Top 40 hit however, with the two you have here the only other songs to even hit the Hot 100. Their albums consist of a nice blend of pop, R&B, and funk early on and more dance-oriented stuff like what you hear here starting with their seventh album, Restless (1985).

starsStars on 45
“Stars on 45 Medley II” — 1981, #67 (download)
“More Stars” — 1981, #55 (download)

Stars on 45 were a bunch of Dutch singers hired by Jaap Eggermont (Golden Earring) to recreate hit songs and string them together in a danceable medley using a standard clap track as segues. No one did it better than these guys in the ‘80s and these are really the only medley’s from this era that I enjoy.

I am a little flabbergasted at the chart placement, though. The first single, “Medley: Intro/Venus/Sugar Sugar/No Reply/I’ll Be Back/Drive My Car/Do You Want to Know a Secret/We Can Work It Out/I Should Have Known Better/Nowhere Man/You’re Going to Lose That Girl/Stars on 45” (yes, that was the actual title of the single) went to #1, but “Stars on 45 Medley II” only made it to #67 a few months later. Both were Beatles medleys, editing down the 15-and-a-half-minute version on the album. “More Stars” is Stars on 45′s so-called Motown medley, off their second album, Stars on Long Play II. Then their fourth single, “Stars on 45 III: A Tribute to Stevie Wonder,” went to #28, but the Rolling Stones medley that followed it up didn’t chart at all.

Starship
“Before I Go” — 1986, #68 (download)
“Beat Patrol” — 1987, #46 (download)
“Wild Again” — 1988, #73 (download)
“I Didn’t Mean to Stay All Night” — 1989, #75 (download)

starshipWithout the least bit of irony or any attempt to be different from the crowd, I’m admitting here that I didn’t mind Starship. In fact, I may even like them. I’m certainly not saying they made groundbreaking music or maybe even quality music. But they were fun and sometimes fun is all you need. Right?

At one point, Blender and VH1 named “We Built This City” the worst song of all time, which is a little harsh. I get why people don’t like Starship if you’re comparing them to Jefferson Starship or Jefferson Airplane. But musicians need to eat now and again, so I have no problem with them adapting their sound to the times. Granted, their debut album, Knee Deep in the Hoopla, should have been better, with Bernie Taupin, Martin Page, and Peter Wolf (the writer-producer, not the former J. Geils Band frontman) penning “We Built This City,” Kimberly Rew cowriting another one, and people like Siedah Garrett, Simon Climie, and Kevin Dubrow contributing vocals to the project, but it wasn’t as bad as most people claim it is.

Much of the same crew appeared on their follow-up, No Protection, which had just a slight bit more of a rock edge to it even though there was no mistaking them for a rock group any longer. “Beat Patrol” came from that album.

“Wild Again” started out on the Cocktail soundtrack, but ended up on the CD version of Starship’s 1989 release Love Among the Cannibals. To me, “I Didn’t Mean to Stay All Night” was actually worse than any other single they did, as it’s quite obviously written by Mutt Lange and is pretty much a rewrite of Def Leppard’s “Love Bites.”

Star Wars Intergalactic Droid Choir & Chorale
“What Can You Get a Wookiee for Christmas (When He Already Owns a Comb)” — 1980, #69 (download)

Another Meco project and another name for the “group” that recorded it, this was from Christmas in the Stars: Star Wars Christmas Album, which is known for something more trivially important than this track, notably the first known recording from Jon Bon Jovi (then Jon Bongiovi), who sang on the B-side to this single, “R2D2 We Wish You a Merry Christmas.”

Maureen Steele
“Save the Night for Me” — 1985, #77 (download)

Maureen Steele info has eluded me over the years, as the only things I know about this song is that it was released on Motown and was from her 1985 Nature of the Beast LP.

Van Stephenson
“You’ve Got a Good Love Coming” — 1981, #79 (download)
“What the Big Girls Do” — 1984, #45 (download)

Van Stephenson in 1981 was very different from Van Stephenson in 1984. Van wrote some country songs for Crystal Gayle and Kenny Rogers among others over the years and his first record in 1981 was very much in the Eagles mold. His 1984 album Righteous Anger was a rock record and featured his biggest solo hit, “Modern Day Delilah” as well as “What the Big Girls Do.” In the early ‘90s Stephenson went on to be the vocalist in country band BlackHawk.

Stevie B
“Dreamin’ of Love” — 1988, #80 (download)
“Spring Love (Come Back to Me)” — 1988, #43 (download)
“Girl, I Am Searching for You” — 1989, #56 (download)

Man, I’ve been looking forward to Stevie B for over a year now. Of course, my reason is simply so that I no longer have to remember that I didn’t put him in the letter B like the paper copy of my charts have him listed. Technically I think he should be here anyway because the “B” isn’t an initial for his last name, rather his middle name as in Steven Bernard Hill.

Nicknamed the “King of Freestyle” (and I hear no one arguing that point) Stevie B is a hell of an artist. If you are like me and had your teen years in the late ‘80s and early ‘90s you couldn’t get away from Stevie B. There’s a ton of generic Latin freestyle and hi-NRG music out there, but Mr. Hill broke himself away from the crowd very early. One of the reasons is of course that the genre is dominated by females and yet still, if he’s not the #1 Latin freestyle artist, he’s damn close. Not only should you already pretty much know these three tracks by heart, but his biggest hit was actually in 1990 with “Because I Love You (The Postman Song).” And I would absolutely use his #32 hit “I Wanna Be the One” as the song that defined the whole movement in the ‘80s. He unbelievably kept having hits through 1995 and continues to release music to this day.

QUICK HITS
Best song: Stevie B, “Spring Love (Come Back to Me)”
Worst song: Starland Vocal Band, “Loving You With My Eyes”

TOP 40 ONLY
Brenda K. Starr (2), Ringo Starr (1), Steel Breeze (2), Steely Dan (2), Jim Steinman (1)

Next week we have a whole mess of Stewarts.

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  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    Great job as always but, man, this section of the “S” did you no big favors. Almost every artist this should have been prefaced by a “Yikes!!”

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    It's the Starship factor that takes it down a bit I'm sure and this definitely is not the best week for tracks. But I really enjoy Stevie B for some reason. I was kind of happy it ended on those.

  • steve

    “More Stars [on 45]” was actually a pseudo-Motown/60's-Flower-Power mashup from Stars On LP II – I don't think the Abba Medley charted, although it certainly isn't any better/worse than any of the others. You've got the correct song, though (begins with Papa Was A Rolling Stone), just an incorrect description.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    Yeah, I think I was listening to the Abba song when I wrote it and didn't catch the mistake. It's been edited. Thanks for pointing it out. The Abba medley was for Europe only, so you're right – for this – it didn't chart.

  • skipisley

    I'm hoping someone still has the holiday spirit and can help me out. I am addicted to this column every week, but when I returned from vacation I see that I missed a week and there are some songs that I wold really really like to have. If anyone can help me out, I'd be thrilled. They are from installment #82; Phoebe Snow – Games & Mercy Mercy mercy Snuff – Bad Bad Billy So – Are You Sure SOS Band – The Finest SoulSister – The Way To Your Heart Tracie Spencer – Imagine Spider – It Didn't Take Long The Spinners – Yesterday Once More Thanks!

  • ozarkmatt

    Oh no, you have slugged your way across oceans of crap for this series. You are a far more tolerant person than I . . .

  • anniezaleski

    michael stanley went to my high school (rocky river high school, just outside of cleveland, ohio, ground zero for stanley fandom), and i once heard a rumor that he arrived at a reunion in a helicopter. that is quite unconfirmed, but i like to think it's true. he is on the wall of fame as a distinguished alum.

    he's still a classic rock dj here on the radio (i believe; matt wardlaw can probably confirm for me). and he was also huge in st. louis — a new book on kshe, a legendary lou radio station, dedicates quite a bit of time to him. his CDs used to be out of print and go for stupid money on ebay.

    i looooooooooved the cocktail soundtrack, and somehow never knew that 'wild again' was on there. this too sounds like def leppard.

  • Matt

    Annie is correct – Michael Stanley is the afternoon DJ here at WNCX (http://www.wncx.com) which for years, has been the only place to hear his music, because other radio stations aren't so eager to play the music of someone that works for their competition.

    That changed this week though, with the launch of “Boom! 107.3,” the new Triple AAA station that replaces the former “Wave” smooth jazz format that has been on that frequency for years. I think I've heard all of the MSB songs from this week's featured Bottom Feeders on Boom! since the station launched on Monday. Odd.

    http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archi...

    Regarding Starship, I was surprised to hear “We Built This City” years later on their Greatest Hits compilation with the DJ chatter (courtesy of Les Garland) snipped out. After doing some digging at the time, I recall hearing that the chatter had been removed due to rights issues, but reading further today, it seems that they created additional versions at the original time of release. One version was a radio edit with the chatter removed, and then there apparently also was a DJ-less version issued as a B-Side that radio stations were encouraged to localize with their own local DJs. Unless the album version is available on more recent compilations, Knee Deep In The Hoopla seems to be the only place that you can grab the original version with the DJ, which I always liked.

    Further, regarding “Wild Again” – I believe that the version on Cocktail features Grace Slick, who was out of the band by the time that Starship's Love Among The Cannibals came out, and as a result, that album features a new version recorded post-Cocktail of “Wild Again,” minus Slick.

    I enjoyed this little tidbit from their Wikipedia page – haven't ever heard this one before…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Starship...

    With Slick's departure, Thomas became sole lead singer. The revamped lineup released Love Among the Cannibals in August 1989. On September 24 of that year while the band was in Scranton, Pennsylvania for a show, Donny Baldwin seriously injured Mickey Thomas in a fight.[9] Thomas was forced to undergo reconstructive facial surgery, and Baldwin was involuntarily dismissed from the team.

  • anniezaleski

    i'm out of the office for the holidays and will return on Monday, January 4.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    e-mail me: dave at popdose.com

  • kingofgrief

    Nothing like a final round of BFs in the '09 to wait out a post-holiday cold by. This is already the most Michael Stanley Band I've heard in one sitting. The #39 “My Town” is the only MSB single to receive anything approaching regular airplay in Houston (and only AOR at that).

    “Loving You With My Eyes” comes from SVB's 4 x 4 album, famously roasted in Jimmy Guterman and Owen O'Donnell's The Worst Rock n' Roll Records of All Time: A Fan's Guide to the Stuff You Love to Hate, where it ranks at #35. Too easy a target? (Knee Deep in the Hoopla checks in at #29, and “We Built This City” gets its unsurprising rake over the coals in the commentary.)

    I was something of a Stars On [45/Long Play] completist in the day, having owned all of their chart singles and the first 3 albums. Still have the albums, along with two different 12″ers (one of which is their chart-topping Beatles excerpt fleshed out with other tunes from the debut). BTW, the “From Me to You” snippet in “Medley II” does NOT appear in the master medley on the album, which still baffles me.

    I've never heard this Maureen Steele cut until now, but its flipside, “Boys Will Be Boys”, made it to moderate rotation on TV5/Hit Video USA. Check out the sidebar info, Steele…there's some info you'll appreciate.

    Time to close out with my custom Top 40 nod, this week honoring something due for a Club Hour spin. Same time next week/year, gang?

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    I'll have to go and listen to the Cocktail soundtrack tonight and see if I hear a difference with “Wild Again”. I'm pretty sure I just listened to both versions and I don't hear a difference. But I'm sick and my ears aren't that good today. I'm very curious now. I have it on CD, so I'll upload the version from the soundtrack if it's different as the version posted is the Love Among the Cannibals version.

  • Matt

    Lemme know…I'm not sure that I have my copy of the Cocktail
    soundtrack handy to A/B the two. I do now have two copies of Love
    Among The Cannibals thanks to Annie's generous donation of her still
    sealed copy. Haha.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    Thanks for the link to the book. Never read that – but for $4 with shipping – it's mine now. 4X4 is a terrible album and one that took me forever to locate too.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    First time I've ever seen Maureen Steele now too – that's not what I was expecting at all. Kind of scary looking really.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    She smacks of a white Grace Jones with an overbite.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    Well Matt, there's certainly something different – though I can't tell if it's simply a better quality recording or an actual re-recording.

    “Wild Again” 1988, #73 (download)

  • Matt

    Good question – I'd lean towards calling it a re-record. I'll have to see if I have my copy of the Cocktail soundtrack at home, and take the two versions for a spin in the car. If you hear of any random roadside tragedies in Cleveland, OH – you'll know what happened.

  • KellyStitzel

    I'm not going to lie: I bought “Knee Deep in the Hoopla” on vinyl with Christmas money in early '86 and I still have it. I don't think I've listened to it since the mid-80s, but I keep it as a reminder of how I spent my money back then. (I also bought The Bangles' “Different Light” in the same purchase and still have that as well.)

  • kingofgrief

    I also get shades of the actress at 4:30 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DM0E7kWB6U

    (If anyone has the time, watch the whole studio scene, followed by Joel and the 'bots' spoof of same. This is MST3K gold, folks.)

  • http://www.annlogue.com annielogue

    MSB rocks. And “Lover” was a fine song, with Clarence Clemons on the sax. Back in high school (Cardinal Mooney in Youngstown, where our famous alumni include a disgraced congressman and 50 college football coaches who are also brothers, and I exaggerate only slightly) we just knew they would be the next REO Speedwagon.

  • Matt

    I'm unapologetic about my love for Mickey Thomas-era Starship. I thought the Knee Deep album was pretty solid…..including Rock Myself To Sleep. I had no idea that April Wine also recorded a version of that same tune until I read your recent Soundtrack Saturday post on Fright Night :-)

    http://popdose.com/soundtrack-saturday-fright-n...

    Awesome.

  • eddie_w

    Matt, I'm right there with you. Although I can see why some people don't care for it, I still enjoy listening to Knee Deep (“Love Rusts” is a favorite) and whenever I hear “We Built This City” it still puts a smile on my face. Part of it is that it envokes a strong sense of place for me – it was one of the main soundtracks to my junior year in high school. I distinctly remember popping in that cassette and singing rounds of that song (and making fools of ourselves) along with my friends in the car back and forth on our rides to school. I also remember every girl I knew named Sarah was sick of having “Sara” sung to/at her and couldn't wait for that song to leave the radio… :-)

    Dave – thanks for another great week – see you next year!

  • Matt

    I can think of at least one girl named Sara that I enjoyed tormenting by
    singing that song – I think that everyone who was in school when that album
    was out will remember how much the average “Sara/Sarah” did not care for
    that song.

  • eddie_w

    Ah, TV5. That brings back some memories, King. We never had cable at home, so, as a substitute for MTV, I remember I pretty much watched that station nonstop during the last summer (1984) before I got my driver's license. That was a great summer for videos. One video I remember them playing a lot was Madonna's “Borderline” – it was always fun to watch her “rebel” against the photographer during that photo shoot and start spray painting everything in the studio.

  • anniezaleski

    i'm out of the office for the holidays and will return on Monday, January 4.

  • Don Karnage

    This is the most depressing episode of Bottom Feeders yet. Not because of the artists or songs, but because in this group, there's only three I already owned. And those three would be the Stars on 45 medleys and “the Wookiee song”. Do I just naturally gravitate to goofiness?

    Re: Starship. On two occasions – three years apart – I had listeners to my “retro” radio show choose what the absolute worst single of the 80s was. And one year, the ultimate “winner” was “We Built This City” by Starship. And frankly, I couldn't really argue. The music was agreeable enough, although it had a bit of a “come on, guys, let's dance!” overly-white vibe. But the lyrics were something else. I read somewhere that the original version was actually much darker, written and recorded with the feel from an oppressive “rock is evil” totalitarian state. And instead of the snappy happy DJ in the midsection, they had samples from a police scanner. But maybe they ditched that idea once Styx did Kilroy Was Here…

    The second time around, the #1 worst single ended up being “Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car” by Billy Ocean. Again, decent music, but silly lyrics. Both times, #2 was “Hangin' Tough” by the New Kids on the Block, which frankly makes both the other singles look like masterpieces.

  • Don Karnage

    Oops, forgot something.

    I was a li'l shaver living in San Francisco when Stars on 45 broke. I remember loving the song when it came out, and buying the LP. Much later, in college, I bought a K-Tel album (Dimensions) that had the single edit on it…and to my shock, it was different from the one I remember. Apparently, the fine folks at KFRC in San Francisco made their OWN edit of Stars on 45, and played that. I don't recall if “Venus/Sugar Sugar” started the song off, but I do know it began with the same three Beatles songs on the 45 – “No Reply”, “I'll Be Back” and “Drive My Car”…at which point, it jumped ahead to “A Hard Day's Night”. The rest of what is “Stars on 45 II” followed. Since my only point of reference for this song was the radio and my LP (which had the full 15-minute medley only), I grew up assuming that's how the single was. And, being the music geek I was, I spent many hours in front of a cassette recorder attempting to recreate it. Strange that all my work was to recreate a version that nobody else probably knew.

  • Elyisium

    If I did not know it was a Starship song, I would have thought “I Didn't Mean to Stay All Night” by listening that it was some sort of collaboration between Def Leppard and Bryan Adams. A cross between the sound of the “Hysteria” album and “Waking Up the Neighbours.” Just goes to show what a key component Mutt Lange was, especially to the Def Leppard sound.

  • http://newmusicmachine.blogspot.com/ Zazoo Pitts

    I am so shocked that the Meco track even charted! I really can't believe it. It's amazing.

    Is it different from the LP version? Seems to have more trombone in it than I remember… Oh wait, I mean…uh, I wouldn't know. :)

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    Yeah, the second and third time I listened to the track I caught more Bryan Adams in the vocals and Dep Leppard in the music.

  • http://www.bastardradio.com steed

    you're not going to make me pull that album out are you? That's one I never need to hear again. This is the single version – though I haven't heard the album version more than the only time I listened to the album to compare the two.

    I would love to see playlists from back in the day to see the songs before and after “Wookiee” just to see how they worked it in.

  • http://theisleoffailedpopstars.blogspot.com/ Nasty G

    Over the holidays I missed this week, and I must be the only one who loves it! First, thanks for introducing me to Maureen Steele! I've never heard of her, but after listening to the song and seeing the video for her other song, I realize how perfect she is for my blog!! A one album, one 'hit' wonder for sure! And on Motown (??) no less! Must track the album down…

    And I must comment on Starpoint. I didn't realize that they were around since 1969, and only discovered them with “Object…”, but I became a huge fan after. They were one of the best R&B/funk groups around, and like you mentioned about SOS Band, are sorely overlooked when people talk of great 70s and 80s funk. Renee Diggs had one of the best diva voices ever, and she is missed. RIP

    And God bless Stevie B! Though I could never get into his nasally voice (I prefer my nasally freestyle vocals female ;) , he was definitely the King Of Freestyle and responsible for many great freestyle songs by females like Jaya and Joy Winter. And how “Spring Love” did not make it into the top 40 is beyond me, as it was ubiquitous the year it was released and a few years after as well here in Toronto.

    And then you have Starship, Starland Vocal Band, Stars On 45 and the Wookie song? Brilliant week of pure limburger! ;)

  • http://theisleoffailedpopstars.blogspot.com/ Nasty G

    Over the holidays I missed this week, and I must be the only one who loves it! First, thanks for introducing me to Maureen Steele! I've never heard of her, but after listening to the song and seeing the video for her other song, I realize how perfect she is for my blog!! A one album, one 'hit' wonder for sure! And on Motown (??) no less! Must track the album down…

    And I must comment on Starpoint. I didn't realize that they were around since 1969, and only discovered them with “Object…”, but I became a huge fan after. They were one of the best R&B/funk groups around, and like you mentioned about SOS Band, are sorely overlooked when people talk of great 70s and 80s funk. Renee Diggs had one of the best diva voices ever, and she is missed. RIP

    And God bless Stevie B! Though I could never get into his nasally voice (I prefer my nasally freestyle vocals female ;) , he was definitely the King Of Freestyle and responsible for many great freestyle songs by females like Jaya and Joy Winter. And how “Spring Love” did not make it into the top 40 is beyond me, as it was ubiquitous the year it was released and a few years after as well here in Toronto.

    And then you have Starship, Starland Vocal Band, Stars On 45 and the Wookie song? Brilliant week of pure limburger! ;)

  • musicmanatl

    I can't believe that there are two other people here who know MSB! Growing up in northeastern Ohio in the late 1970s and early 1980s, you couldn't escape Michael Stanley. They were THE biggest rock act, hands down. For example, the theme to my junior banquet was his non-charting but classic single “Let's Get The Show On The Road”. (What message we were supposed to derive from that is still unclear to me, but it's a good song.)

    MSB wasnt a great band – certainly not on a Springsteen level – but they were highly competent musicians who made really enjoyable rock. Each single posted here is a classic for me. I've always been depressed that REO hit the big time while MSB never did, as MSB is ten times better.

    I remember when “My Town” was the highest debut of the week on the Hot 100 in 1983 and I thought finally, this is it – they're going to have a big hit. And then it burned out fast. I was probably as bummed as the band over that. They were also my first ever concert – New Year's Eve, 1980 – and they had some unknown named John Cougar open for them. I missed most of the show because my best friend was so drunk that I had to walk him around the arena to try to sober him up. Oh, sweet memories… Rock on, Michael Stanley. :)

  • musicmanatl

    :) I own her album – got it for free from the radio station where I was interning in the summer of '84. I don't remember the overbite. The song is fine – a generic dance-pop song for its time but catchy enough.

  • Todd

    Hey! That guy would be me! I do owe you big time for that one!! Who knew we would be writing about this thirty years later!! :-)

  • Frank

    Todd, this is so funny. I honesty didn't make the connection that “Todd” was you right away! LOL Oh yes, the memories… Did you know that the Coliseum was torn down awhile back? :)

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