Comments on: Conan O’Brien Says No to 12:05 http://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/ your daily dose of pop culture Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bootleg City: The Political Scandal of the Decade of the Week! | Popdosehttp://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/comment-page-1/#comment-54763 Bootleg City: The Political Scandal of the Decade of the Week! | Popdose Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:56:20 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=39232#comment-54763 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Sugar Water: Jay Leno Is Blacker Than Rod Blagojevich | Popdosehttp://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/comment-page-1/#comment-48947 Sugar Water: Jay Leno Is Blacker Than Rod Blagojevich | Popdose Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:59:48 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=39232#comment-48947 [...] You heard me! Even if he is merely “light-skinned” in the eyes of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), the former and near-future host of The Tonight Show is waaaaaay blacker than Rod Blagojevich. Why? Because only people who live in Illinois care one way or another about Blago, but everybody seems to hate Jay. [...] [...] You heard me! Even if he is merely “light-skinned” in the eyes of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), the former and near-future host of The Tonight Show is waaaaaay blacker than Rod Blagojevich. Why? Because only people who live in Illinois care one way or another about Blago, but everybody seems to hate Jay. [...]

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/comment-page-1/#comment-52706 DwDunphy Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:14:55 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=39232#comment-52706 The insanity is also in how powerless NBC is willing to make itself appear. The banking industry took crap for rewarding the incompetence of their collective staffing with record bonuses. NBC is bending over every which way to save Leno, at the expense of everything else it seems. They look weak, easily manipulated, which is something advertisers might either try to exploit or just be completely turned off by. NBC rewards failure too now, and that looks like a loser. Why would you want to sink your money into that?<br><br>The biggest loser in this is (I hate to say it) Jimmy Fallon, the true odd-man out. If Conan winds up staying after all this, Fallon is stuck competing with infomercials and reruns of That 70s Show. If Conan bolts, the bad taste of all this screwing over might drastically affect Leno's supposed glorious comeback, leaving Fallon with a hot turd on a twig for a lead-in. At least Conan was thoughtful enough to include Fallon in his note. Leno... I just think this is some straight-up Rupert Pupkin. The insanity is also in how powerless NBC is willing to make itself appear. The banking industry took crap for rewarding the incompetence of their collective staffing with record bonuses. NBC is bending over every which way to save Leno, at the expense of everything else it seems. They look weak, easily manipulated, which is something advertisers might either try to exploit or just be completely turned off by. NBC rewards failure too now, and that looks like a loser. Why would you want to sink your money into that?

The biggest loser in this is (I hate to say it) Jimmy Fallon, the true odd-man out. If Conan winds up staying after all this, Fallon is stuck competing with infomercials and reruns of That 70s Show. If Conan bolts, the bad taste of all this screwing over might drastically affect Leno's supposed glorious comeback, leaving Fallon with a hot turd on a twig for a lead-in. At least Conan was thoughtful enough to include Fallon in his note. Leno… I just think this is some straight-up Rupert Pupkin.

]]> By: kshanehttp://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/comment-page-1/#comment-52705 kshane Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:51:38 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=39232#comment-52705 My problem with Leno is not that he wants to stay on the air, but that he's willing to do it at the expense of Conan. We now from the whole Battle of the Tonight Show I that Leno is not above underhanded tactics to get what he wants. He is clearly not the nice guy that his image would suggest. If he wants to stay on the air, he should be the one leaving the network, not Conan. My problem with Leno is not that he wants to stay on the air, but that he's willing to do it at the expense of Conan. We now from the whole Battle of the Tonight Show I that Leno is not above underhanded tactics to get what he wants. He is clearly not the nice guy that his image would suggest. If he wants to stay on the air, he should be the one leaving the network, not Conan.

]]> By: JonCummingshttp://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/comment-page-1/#comment-52704 JonCummings Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:39:54 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=39232#comment-52704 I don't like the idea of passing out judgments of "good" or "evil" on Leno here. On the one hand, he signed a contract that said he would give up "The Tonight Show," just as Conan signed one that said he would get it. But this business of making commitments five years in advance in order to keep Conan at the network was stupid in the first place. How did Leno know whether or not he would want to keep going today, way back in '04? And why berate him for wanting to find a way to stay on the air now that his 10 p.m. show obviously hasn't worked?<br><br>It's NBC that's created this problem, not Leno. (Though it is his problem, and NBC's as well, that time quite clearly has passed him by, and that his show completely sucks ass. Moving to 10 just exposed what many of Leno's loyal Tonight Show viewers should have figured out a long time ago.) My guess is that even if Comcast/Universal/Don Geist/Jack Donaghy/NBC manage to put these pieces in place, Leno will not win back the viewers Conan lost to Letterman this fall--particularly not with a 30-minute show that places way too much emphasis on his lame monologues.<br><br>My suggestion to Leno: I hear the Hallmark Channel needs a late-night guy. That demographic is more his speed, anyway. I don't like the idea of passing out judgments of “good” or “evil” on Leno here. On the one hand, he signed a contract that said he would give up “The Tonight Show,” just as Conan signed one that said he would get it. But this business of making commitments five years in advance in order to keep Conan at the network was stupid in the first place. How did Leno know whether or not he would want to keep going today, way back in '04? And why berate him for wanting to find a way to stay on the air now that his 10 p.m. show obviously hasn't worked?

It's NBC that's created this problem, not Leno. (Though it is his problem, and NBC's as well, that time quite clearly has passed him by, and that his show completely sucks ass. Moving to 10 just exposed what many of Leno's loyal Tonight Show viewers should have figured out a long time ago.) My guess is that even if Comcast/Universal/Don Geist/Jack Donaghy/NBC manage to put these pieces in place, Leno will not win back the viewers Conan lost to Letterman this fall–particularly not with a 30-minute show that places way too much emphasis on his lame monologues.

My suggestion to Leno: I hear the Hallmark Channel needs a late-night guy. That demographic is more his speed, anyway.

]]> By: kshanehttp://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/comment-page-1/#comment-52703 kshane Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:43:01 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=39232#comment-52703 It was Comcast that just bought NBC. If you've ever done business with them as a cable customer, you know better than to hold out much hope that they'll improve that pathetic network. <br><br>Make no mistake, Conan is under contract, and can stay, and be paid. What he can't do is control when his show airs. My feeling is that NBC has been trying to force his hand and force him out so that they can give the Tonight Show back to Leno. Why, I have no idea. Somewhere in all of this are Leno's dirty hands. It was Comcast that just bought NBC. If you've ever done business with them as a cable customer, you know better than to hold out much hope that they'll improve that pathetic network.

Make no mistake, Conan is under contract, and can stay, and be paid. What he can't do is control when his show airs. My feeling is that NBC has been trying to force his hand and force him out so that they can give the Tonight Show back to Leno. Why, I have no idea. Somewhere in all of this are Leno's dirty hands.

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/comment-page-1/#comment-52702 DwDunphy Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:35:25 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=39232#comment-52702 Look at another side of Conan's situation. He packed up virtually his entire Late Night staff, every last one of the Max Weinberg Seven, the Masturbating Bear, Pimpbot 9000, the whole deal, and moved it across the country thinking they had a solid contract to produce a specific show. The changes, even though some will argue are only facial, do affect the makeup of the show that he has brought his staff to. Now he has to tell all these folks that what he said would be, and what will be, are two completely different animals.<br><br>Which cable conglomerate just bought NBC/Universal? And isn't it funny how these decisions are now getting thrown around fast & furious after the deal has been struck? Look at another side of Conan's situation. He packed up virtually his entire Late Night staff, every last one of the Max Weinberg Seven, the Masturbating Bear, Pimpbot 9000, the whole deal, and moved it across the country thinking they had a solid contract to produce a specific show. The changes, even though some will argue are only facial, do affect the makeup of the show that he has brought his staff to. Now he has to tell all these folks that what he said would be, and what will be, are two completely different animals.

Which cable conglomerate just bought NBC/Universal? And isn't it funny how these decisions are now getting thrown around fast & furious after the deal has been struck?

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/comment-page-1/#comment-48465 DwDunphy Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:14:55 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=39232#comment-48465 The insanity is also in how powerless NBC is willing to make itself appear. The banking industry took crap for rewarding the incompetence of their collective staffing with record bonuses. NBC is bending over every which way to save Leno, at the expense of everything else it seems. They look weak, easily manipulated, which is something advertisers might either try to exploit or just be completely turned off by. NBC rewards failure too now, and that looks like a loser. Why would you want to sink your money into that?<br><br>The biggest loser in this is (I hate to say it) Jimmy Fallon, the true odd-man out. If Conan winds up staying after all this, Fallon is stuck competing with infomercials and reruns of That 70s Show. If Conan bolts, the bad taste of all this screwing over might drastically affect Leno's supposed glorious comeback, leaving Fallon with a hot turd on a twig for a lead-in. At least Conan was thoughtful enough to include Fallon in his note. Leno... I just think this is some straight-up Rupert Pupkin. The insanity is also in how powerless NBC is willing to make itself appear. The banking industry took crap for rewarding the incompetence of their collective staffing with record bonuses. NBC is bending over every which way to save Leno, at the expense of everything else it seems. They look weak, easily manipulated, which is something advertisers might either try to exploit or just be completely turned off by. NBC rewards failure too now, and that looks like a loser. Why would you want to sink your money into that?

The biggest loser in this is (I hate to say it) Jimmy Fallon, the true odd-man out. If Conan winds up staying after all this, Fallon is stuck competing with infomercials and reruns of That 70s Show. If Conan bolts, the bad taste of all this screwing over might drastically affect Leno's supposed glorious comeback, leaving Fallon with a hot turd on a twig for a lead-in. At least Conan was thoughtful enough to include Fallon in his note. Leno… I just think this is some straight-up Rupert Pupkin.

]]> By: kshanehttp://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/comment-page-1/#comment-48463 kshane Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:51:38 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=39232#comment-48463 My problem with Leno is not that he wants to stay on the air, but that he's willing to do it at the expense of Conan. We now from the whole Battle of the Tonight Show I that Leno is not above underhanded tactics to get what he wants. He is clearly not the nice guy that his image would suggest. If he wants to stay on the air, he should be the one leaving the network, not Conan. My problem with Leno is not that he wants to stay on the air, but that he's willing to do it at the expense of Conan. We now from the whole Battle of the Tonight Show I that Leno is not above underhanded tactics to get what he wants. He is clearly not the nice guy that his image would suggest. If he wants to stay on the air, he should be the one leaving the network, not Conan.

]]> By: JonCummingshttp://popdose.com/conan-obrien-says-no-to-1205/comment-page-1/#comment-48462 JonCummings Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:39:54 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=39232#comment-48462 I don't like the idea of passing out judgments of "good" or "evil" on Leno here. On the one hand, he signed a contract that said he would give up "The Tonight Show," just as Conan signed one that said he would get it. But this business of making commitments five years in advance in order to keep Conan at the network was stupid in the first place. How did Leno know whether or not he would want to keep going today, way back in '04? And why berate him for wanting to find a way to stay on the air now that his 10 p.m. show obviously hasn't worked?<br><br>It's NBC that's created this problem, not Leno. (Though it is his problem, and NBC's as well, that time quite clearly has passed him by, and that his show completely sucks ass. Moving to 10 just exposed what many of Leno's loyal Tonight Show viewers should have figured out a long time ago.) My guess is that even if Comcast/Universal/Don Geist/Jack Donaghy/NBC manage to put these pieces in place, Leno will not win back the viewers Conan lost to Letterman this fall--particularly not with a 30-minute show that places way too much emphasis on his lame monologues.<br><br>My suggestion to Leno: I hear the Hallmark Channel needs a late-night guy. That demographic is more his speed, anyway. I don't like the idea of passing out judgments of “good” or “evil” on Leno here. On the one hand, he signed a contract that said he would give up “The Tonight Show,” just as Conan signed one that said he would get it. But this business of making commitments five years in advance in order to keep Conan at the network was stupid in the first place. How did Leno know whether or not he would want to keep going today, way back in '04? And why berate him for wanting to find a way to stay on the air now that his 10 p.m. show obviously hasn't worked?

It's NBC that's created this problem, not Leno. (Though it is his problem, and NBC's as well, that time quite clearly has passed him by, and that his show completely sucks ass. Moving to 10 just exposed what many of Leno's loyal Tonight Show viewers should have figured out a long time ago.) My guess is that even if Comcast/Universal/Don Geist/Jack Donaghy/NBC manage to put these pieces in place, Leno will not win back the viewers Conan lost to Letterman this fall–particularly not with a 30-minute show that places way too much emphasis on his lame monologues.

My suggestion to Leno: I hear the Hallmark Channel needs a late-night guy. That demographic is more his speed, anyway.

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