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> <channel><title>Comments on: Do You Hear What I Hear? In Defense of Dylan&#8217;s &#8220;Christmas in the Heart&#8221;</title> <atom:link href="http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/</link> <description>your daily dose of pop culture</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 06:16:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: innkeeperseely</title><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/comment-page-3/#comment-50140</link> <dc:creator>innkeeperseely</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 05:38:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=32289#comment-50140</guid> <description>&quot;Must be Santa&quot; is a must click through even though the link to the actual video is broken, just search when you get there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Must be Santa&#8221; is a must click through even though the link to the actual video is broken, just search when you get there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: innkeeperseely</title><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/comment-page-3/#comment-39852</link> <dc:creator>innkeeperseely</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:38:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=32289#comment-39852</guid> <description>&quot;Must be Santa&quot; is a must click through even though the link to the actual video is broken, just search when you get there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Must be Santa&#8221; is a must click through even though the link to the actual video is broken, just search when you get there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: innkeeperseely</title><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/comment-page-3/#comment-39641</link> <dc:creator>innkeeperseely</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:38:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=32289#comment-39641</guid> <description>&quot;Must be Santa&quot; is a must click through even though the link to the actual video is broken, just search when you get there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Must be Santa&#8221; is a must click through even though the link to the actual video is broken, just search when you get there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pete_chianca</title><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/comment-page-3/#comment-39470</link> <dc:creator>pete_chianca</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:53:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=32289#comment-39470</guid> <description>Loving all the discussion ... Funny that an album of Christmas favorites would be Bob&#039;s most divisive release in years! (Hmm ... Maybe that&#039;s what he had in mind all along.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loving all the discussion &#8230; Funny that an album of Christmas favorites would be Bob&#39;s most divisive release in years! (Hmm &#8230; Maybe that&#39;s what he had in mind all along.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: savage henry</title><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/comment-page-3/#comment-39466</link> <dc:creator>savage henry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:11:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=32289#comment-39466</guid> <description>The most woeful chapter in a fabled career.&lt;br&gt;Can &quot;Cinco de Mayo In The Heart&quot; be far behind?&lt;br&gt;Makes &quot;Dylan &amp; the Dead&quot; look like &quot;Blood on the Tracks&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most woeful chapter in a fabled career.<br
/>Can &#8220;Cinco de Mayo In The Heart&#8221; be far behind?<br
/>Makes &#8220;Dylan &#038; the Dead&#8221; look like &#8220;Blood on the Tracks&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anapufmama</title><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/comment-page-3/#comment-39457</link> <dc:creator>anapufmama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:40:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=32289#comment-39457</guid> <description>Nice one iOpen, Hey I lived in A/Dam for a few years.  Wish I could drop everything and go follow him around. Life is too short to miss even one Dylan gig. Contact pufmama on youtube. I need to ask you something.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one iOpen, Hey I lived in A/Dam for a few years.  Wish I could drop everything and go follow him around. Life is too short to miss even one Dylan gig. Contact pufmama on youtube. I need to ask you something.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: autodidact</title><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/comment-page-3/#comment-39410</link> <dc:creator>autodidact</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:18:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=32289#comment-39410</guid> <description>How do I respond to you without sounding like Scrooge? I guess if I drop some food in the local donations for the hungry bin that should take care of the charitable urge. I don&#039;t think Bob is pursuing any aspect of his career for the wrong reasons. It&#039;s not about him. I&#039;m just talking about the work itself. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although I am a big fan of Pirsig, I don&#039;t see how it makes the case for Dylan. Pirsig&#039;s thing was &quot;quality&quot; -- and at first in Zen he wrote about quality as if it was similar to Potter Stewart&#039;s take on pornography: We know it when we see it. Remember Porsig&#039;s classroom discussions and voting on which pieces of student writing had quality? Pirsig implied that we had an innate sense of quality. (Granted, this was a limited, unscientific experiment, but Pirsig wasn&#039;t approaching it from a hard science perspective. This is a practical explanation, not the full metaphysical Monty.) I don&#039;t think quality is just &quot;what we like&quot; it is more than that. I recognize quality in opera although I don&#039;t like opera. (And yes, I know this is an interpretation of quality that Pirsig would not agree with, but he does sort of use it in the book. In Pirsig&#039;s sequel, Lila, it seems to me that he actually redefined Quality, and there we&#039;re talking about something entirely different, so I&#039;m leaving this aside because to me Lila was ultimately a failed attempt. Low quality. haha)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I see quality in Dylan&#039;s &quot;Things Have Changed.&quot; A sprawling, but very unique and interesting song, with a good hook. But &quot;I&#039;m in love with the ugliest girl in the world&quot; or &quot;My wife&#039;s home town.&quot; I&#039;m afraid those are so bad it&#039;s not even funny. Amateur hour. Play those songs for a classroom full of writing students and see what kind of quality marks they get.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dancing bear circus? Nope, some high quality Cirque du Soleil for me, thanks. It&#039;s hard for an attack on Bob&#039;s music not to sound like an attack on his fans. I like much of his work, but lately (the last 15 years?) I really am failing to enjoy it, or even understand the apologists for it. Enjoy it, if you can. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I respond to you without sounding like Scrooge? I guess if I drop some food in the local donations for the hungry bin that should take care of the charitable urge. I don&#39;t think Bob is pursuing any aspect of his career for the wrong reasons. It&#39;s not about him. I&#39;m just talking about the work itself.</p><p>Although I am a big fan of Pirsig, I don&#39;t see how it makes the case for Dylan. Pirsig&#39;s thing was &#8220;quality&#8221; &#8212; and at first in Zen he wrote about quality as if it was similar to Potter Stewart&#39;s take on pornography: We know it when we see it. Remember Porsig&#39;s classroom discussions and voting on which pieces of student writing had quality? Pirsig implied that we had an innate sense of quality. (Granted, this was a limited, unscientific experiment, but Pirsig wasn&#39;t approaching it from a hard science perspective. This is a practical explanation, not the full metaphysical Monty.) I don&#39;t think quality is just &#8220;what we like&#8221; it is more than that. I recognize quality in opera although I don&#39;t like opera. (And yes, I know this is an interpretation of quality that Pirsig would not agree with, but he does sort of use it in the book. In Pirsig&#39;s sequel, Lila, it seems to me that he actually redefined Quality, and there we&#39;re talking about something entirely different, so I&#39;m leaving this aside because to me Lila was ultimately a failed attempt. Low quality. haha)</p><p>I see quality in Dylan&#39;s &#8220;Things Have Changed.&#8221; A sprawling, but very unique and interesting song, with a good hook. But &#8220;I&#39;m in love with the ugliest girl in the world&#8221; or &#8220;My wife&#39;s home town.&#8221; I&#39;m afraid those are so bad it&#39;s not even funny. Amateur hour. Play those songs for a classroom full of writing students and see what kind of quality marks they get.</p><p>Dancing bear circus? Nope, some high quality Cirque du Soleil for me, thanks. It&#39;s hard for an attack on Bob&#39;s music not to sound like an attack on his fans. I like much of his work, but lately (the last 15 years?) I really am failing to enjoy it, or even understand the apologists for it. Enjoy it, if you can. <img
src='http://popdose.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: iOpen</title><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/comment-page-3/#comment-39407</link> <dc:creator>iOpen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:48:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=32289#comment-39407</guid> <description>Great comment, thanks for your reply! I totally agree with you and doubted my own choice of word when I said wasted, because I love his voice and about his foot in the grave...last week I wrote a comment on another article saying that if he makes it to 120 years that we still have his best work ahead of us, but sometimes I&#039;m also a little more realistic about my favourite artist&#039;s chances of reaching that number. I saw him all three Amsterdam concerts this year and I think at least 40 times over the past 28 years all over the world, sometimes following his tours in my camper in California and all over Europe and met him in person three times, so some people call me a fan (another word I hate). So I&#039;m on your side, believe me! ;-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment, thanks for your reply! I totally agree with you and doubted my own choice of word when I said wasted, because I love his voice and about his foot in the grave&#8230;last week I wrote a comment on another article saying that if he makes it to 120 years that we still have his best work ahead of us, but sometimes I&#39;m also a little more realistic about my favourite artist&#39;s chances of reaching that number. I saw him all three Amsterdam concerts this year and I think at least 40 times over the past 28 years all over the world, sometimes following his tours in my camper in California and all over Europe and met him in person three times, so some people call me a fan (another word I hate). So I&#39;m on your side, believe me! <img
src='http://popdose.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anapufmama</title><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/comment-page-3/#comment-39405</link> <dc:creator>anapufmama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:17:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=32289#comment-39405</guid> <description>Yes iopen, agree with it all except..... his voice is not wasted, Its been pounded like a peice of precious metal into the fabulous piece of jewelery that is Dylans voice today.  and the one foot in the grave? dont think so. He looked stronger than most 30 year old I know.  I hope God has plans for him on earth for a long time yet. Seriously 68 is not old for a fit slim strong man like Bob.  This album has made me actually look forward to Christmas so I can play it on rep for 12 days lol. A total swooner if you ask me.&lt;br&gt;After just 2 hours of that gig, my muscles were burning from dancing and my voice is just coming back. He does that almost every night,  and he works out and cycles. Bob old? OMB he still looks, and sounds so fine!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes iopen, agree with it all except&#8230;.. his voice is not wasted, Its been pounded like a peice of precious metal into the fabulous piece of jewelery that is Dylans voice today.  and the one foot in the grave? dont think so. He looked stronger than most 30 year old I know.  I hope God has plans for him on earth for a long time yet. Seriously 68 is not old for a fit slim strong man like Bob.  This album has made me actually look forward to Christmas so I can play it on rep for 12 days lol. A total swooner if you ask me.<br
/>After just 2 hours of that gig, my muscles were burning from dancing and my voice is just coming back. He does that almost every night,  and he works out and cycles. Bob old? OMB he still looks, and sounds so fine!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: iOpen</title><link>http://popdose.com/do-you-hear-what-i-hear-in-defense-of-dylans-christmas-in-the-heart/comment-page-3/#comment-39403</link> <dc:creator>iOpen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:44:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=32289#comment-39403</guid> <description>Oh btw, his voice is like rolling thunder with honey on top and a freight train rumbling through.....loved that comment....Can&#039;t touch him....very well said and very true.....any other artist out there that&#039;s won so many different types of prizes and got nominated for the Nobel Prize for Literature year after year...???....not that I know off....and even though I respect Obama...and don&#039;t mind him winning the Peace Prize without doing anything really noticable in that field yet (although I found Cairo one of the most amazing speeches ever, maybe after The Sermon On The Mount and I Have A Dream etc)...I think Bob actually earnt it for real to win either the Literature Prize or even the Peace Prize given all his anti-war and protest songs (oh, how I hate that terminology)....Bob, I think may be the most long-term influential person alive on the planet right now....and how I love him pointing to the name concealed within the word Christmas one whole CD long, just like in the good old days of Slow Train, Saved and Shot of Love (and many songs before and after)....love Little Drummer Boy....a man like him singing that he&#039;s a poor boy too, that he&#039;s got no gift to bring, that&#039;s fit to give a King,...shall I play for you on my drum..that&#039;s maybe the most sincere humble, statement anybody with a voice so wasted can sing...I&#039;ve played my best for Him...unbelievable....just gotta love the man....he&#039;s just so amazing....can just imagine the Heavenly Trio up there listening....then He smiled at me....I must say I believe that to be very true.....almost 70, maybe with already one foot in the grave, paying a tribute like that...it blows my mind....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh btw, his voice is like rolling thunder with honey on top and a freight train rumbling through&#8230;..loved that comment&#8230;.Can&#39;t touch him&#8230;.very well said and very true&#8230;..any other artist out there that&#39;s won so many different types of prizes and got nominated for the Nobel Prize for Literature year after year&#8230;???&#8230;.not that I know off&#8230;.and even though I respect Obama&#8230;and don&#39;t mind him winning the Peace Prize without doing anything really noticable in that field yet (although I found Cairo one of the most amazing speeches ever, maybe after The Sermon On The Mount and I Have A Dream etc)&#8230;I think Bob actually earnt it for real to win either the Literature Prize or even the Peace Prize given all his anti-war and protest songs (oh, how I hate that terminology)&#8230;.Bob, I think may be the most long-term influential person alive on the planet right now&#8230;.and how I love him pointing to the name concealed within the word Christmas one whole CD long, just like in the good old days of Slow Train, Saved and Shot of Love (and many songs before and after)&#8230;.love Little Drummer Boy&#8230;.a man like him singing that he&#39;s a poor boy too, that he&#39;s got no gift to bring, that&#39;s fit to give a King,&#8230;shall I play for you on my drum..that&#39;s maybe the most sincere humble, statement anybody with a voice so wasted can sing&#8230;I&#39;ve played my best for Him&#8230;unbelievable&#8230;.just gotta love the man&#8230;.he&#39;s just so amazing&#8230;.can just imagine the Heavenly Trio up there listening&#8230;.then He smiled at me&#8230;.I must say I believe that to be very true&#8230;..almost 70, maybe with already one foot in the grave, paying a tribute like that&#8230;it blows my mind&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>

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