Donkey Kong: The Last Temptation of Hillary

Jon: Our frequent commenter “Elaine” is eager for us to objectify Hillary tonight. Are we “up” for it?

Ted: I’m game…

Jon: So, Mark Warner looks pretty good. I keep remembering the picture of him on the cover of the New York Times Magazine, which I think singlehandedly forced him out of the presidential race because he looked like a space alien.

Ted: I gotta say, he looks like a Vulcan … who’s also a motivational speaker (if that’s possible). (Pause) He is a Vulcan! His speech is called “The Race for the Future,” and we all know that in the future Zefram Cochrane develops the first Warp engine and the Vulcans are there after the first launch. I think Mark has been sent back in time by the Vulcans to push humanity toward the Star Trek future.

Jon: Well, I dunno … Warner’s got rounded ears. It’s been a looooong time since I could make a Star Trek reference, so I’m just gonna stick with “space alien.” You can get as specific as you like. I still think Warner will be president in 2016. Did you see those daughters of his? They look like future first-daughter material.

Ted: Chris Matthews is drunk. Keith Olbermann looks like he just did a line of coke before they went live.

Jon: Speaking of drunk, is there a dumber human being alive than Ed Rendell? What major Democrat in his right mind would dare say in public that his own nominee is “like Adlai Stevenson”?

Ted: I lived in Philly when Eddie was mayor, and he was really popular. But for him to make a comment like that probably resonates with 2% of the U.S. population. So, yeah, he probably was drunk.

Jon: Rachel Maddow is on fire this week, by the way. I’m pretty sure that if Rachel knocked on our door right now, she could get a really hot threesome out of my wife Gwen and me.

Ted: You’d be on the sidelines, my friend.

Jon: If we objectify one more woman in these blogs, I’m pretty sure Maxim is going to buy Popdose. Hey, wait a minute…that would probably be a good thing. Maybe we could finally get paid.

Ted: Yeah, so we should talk about our favorite hot lesbians…

Jon: You mean, like Hillary?

Ted: I said “hot lesbians.”

Jon: Gwen says no lesbian would be caught dead in that pantsuit Hillary’s wearing. Gwen is screaming in horror.

Ted: Look — Bill Clinton’s not a racist! He’s talking to a black guy.

Bill's talking down to black folks again.  Hillary's gonna cut his balls off...Jon: Gwen asked, “Is that Kwame Kilpatrick?” Hahahahaha. Like they’d let that guy in the state of Colorado right now… Gwen also says Villaraigosa (the mayor of L.A., sitting behind Bill) looks like the mayor of Tijuana who Mary-Louise Parker is fucking on Weeds. BTW, Gwen also says we’re cursing too much on these blogs, but she just said the word “fucking,” so fuck her.

Ted: Well, shucky darn! I think that show Weeds is just so frickin’ funny…

Hillary’s speech starts…

Ted: C’mon, Hillary! Say it! Yay! You said you support Obama … The Dems are united.

Jon: Yeah, right.

Ted: I feel the love!

Jon: “No way. No how. No McCain.” That’s got a statesmanlike ring to it…

Ted: There’s the bumper sticker…She’s gotta throw more red meat or else Rachel is going to explode with rage.

Jon: I heart Rachel when she explodes with rage.

Hillary talks about a cancer-stricken woman who wrote “Hillary” on her bald head…

Jon: If Hillary’s voters go 100% for Obama on Nov. 4, I’ll write her name on my bald head, too

Hillary: “To my sisterhood of the traveling pantsuits…”

Jon: Ack! Ack! Ack!

Hillary pays tribute to Stephanie Tubbs-Jones…

Jon: Hillary’s already said more nice things about her than she has about Obama.

Ted: “Bill and Stephanie and Lori and Kate and John and Henry and (whispering) Barack Obama”… Hey, is Hillary still running for president?

Jon: She still hasn’t said anything nice about him! Will she ever?

Ted: That remains to be seen…

Jon: I think Hillary needs to turn her question back on herself. Were you in this campaign just for yourself?

Ted: She’s saying nice things about Michelle, and about Joe Biden, but nothing about Barack.

Hillary: “With an agenda like that, it makes perfect sense that George Bush and John McCain will be together next week in the Twin Cities, because these days they’re awfully hard to tell apart!”

Jon: Go, Hillary, go!!! Money quote!!!! I’m getting a hard-on now … not from Hillary per se, but from the red meat! Fling it, girlfriend!

Ted: “I’m Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.”

Hillary quotes Harriet Tubman…

Jon: Wow. That is political gold!

Ted: She’s not passionate about Obama. She’s passionate about ideals.

Jon: You’re right. But even without the warmth toward Obama, all of a sudden I think she’s getting the job done (as all the talking heads have been saying all day).

The speech ends. On MSNBC, a coked-up-sounding Olbermann reels: “Grand slam. Out of the park, across the street…”

Ted: I thought I felt the love … but I think it was the beer. She got them fired up at the end, though.

Jon: In the end, it became the best speech I’ve ever heard her give, by a long shot. I think it will be forever be compared – and favorably – to Ted Kennedy’s 1980 speech. That second half was a barnburner – rousing in exactly the ways that make Republicans hate her with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns, which is precisely why it’s best that she’s not the nominee here. I almost wish I was watching Fox to see the sheer red-faced hatred on the faces of Hannity and O’Reilly right now.

Ted: I’m watching Fox now. Mort Kondracke is stumbling to find something to say … Brit Hume: “Great speech for Hillary, not great for Obama.”

Jon: Brit Hume’s face is going to finish melting any day now. Maybe on Election Day.

Ted: You know, considering my comments about Hillary’s speech, I think I could get a job at Fox.

Jon: I think our comments actually reflect the quality of the speechwriting. The speech built and built, through our initial skepticism, into something extraordinary that we couldn’t deny. It’s a good metaphor for what she and Obama hope will happen with her supporters.

Ted: I think Obama has to thank Hillary by making her Secretary of State. Her grasp of foreign affairs is so impressive – her views on geopolitics are wonderfully detailed. When she was first lady, she did a world tour with Chelsea and her ability to charm foreign heads of state and “the people” was just electrifying. You take that charisma and combine it with her knowledge of foreign affairs, and you get a very effective Secretary of State – something we need nowadays.

Jon: That’s not gonna happen – well, you may be right if Hillary wants it to happen, but I think she might rather stay in the Senate.

Ted: Which means she either doesn’t want anything to do with an Obama administration, or feels she can better push his agenda from the Senate.

Jon: I believe the latter is the case, and I’m sure Hillary will get every bit of her Senate mojo back after this speech (and some fierce campaigning during the fall). Remember that if Obama and Biden get elected, the chairmanship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee will suddenly be wide open, and while Hillary’s currently on Armed Services, it’s not hard to see her moving over and taking that job … Who knows how long it will last, but don’t you feel a big-ass poll bounce coming out of that speech?

Ted: I do feel the “Hillary bounce” will be strong.

Jon: The Obama campaign should run an ad across the Rust Belt for the next three months, featuring nothing but Hillary quotes from this speech. The script: “On that path to freedom, Harriet Tubman had one piece of advice: ‘If you hear the dogs, keep going. If you see the torches in the woods, keep going. If there’s shouting after you, keep going. Don’t ever stop. Keep going. If you want a taste of freedom, keep going!’ … Nothing less than the fate of our nation and the future of our children hangs in the balance… Barack Obama is my candidate, and he must be our president.”

Ted: Unifying the party in a big, “We Are The World”-speech way was important for Hillary. Whether it was real, media hype, or McCain’s wish, the discord between Hillary and Obama needed to be put to rest, and Hillary showed that she’s not like her husband when it comes to belonging to a political party. That is to say, while Bill was/is a Democrat in name, his real devotion in the ‘90 was to the “Bill Clinton Party” – which was part of the reason I grew to loathe him. Hillary, on the other hand, understands what’s at stake and isn’t about to be a spoiler in this race by tepidly supporting Obama — and by extension, the Democratic Party. Overall, I thought she did a very good job toward the end; she was very passionate, very motivated, and very much about winning the election. I’m just hoping her energy does what it’s supposed to do: put aside any lingering animosities among Democrats. From what I saw, I think it will.

Jon: Well, we’ll see how Bill manages. Will he feel our pain, or just be one? Tune in Wednesday night and find out!

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  • Why, oh why, is this paraphrase ringing in my head - "You'll get my delegates when you pry them - from my cold, dead hands!"

    Oh, and for anyone who doubted Michelle Obama hates Hillary, TiVO that thing and play back her reactions. It's like I'm watching Scanners.
  • Ted
    I'll have to re-watch that 'cause, you know, who doesn't like a good Scanners moment.
  • ozarkmatt
    Yeah, she had some great lines written for her, LOL type stuff. I actually listened to this one, this was a speech I was interested in. See, you Obamaniacs have to remember, It is is Hillary!'s best interest to have Obama lose this November (and believe me, to Hillary!, EVERYTHING is about Hillary!'s best interests). So I was curious on how supportive of the Messiah she would be. Quite honestly, it was more than I expected. But it looks like McCain's new ad will do her job for her.
    And I guess I did land on Fox last night, only Fox would show the Deity while he was engaged in a "light-hearted" moment with the women next to him while his wife was eulogizing Gwatney and Tubbs.
    And, yes, if Obama is the Messiah, Slick IS the deity.

    One thing Obama can take from that speech last night is how to use a teleprompter. Hillary! did it right last night, and I KNOW Slick will do it right tonight. To them, a teleprompter is like a little like having some of the lead singer in the lead guitarist's monitor mix. You know, just to know where you are in the song.
  • J
    You think it's in Hillary!'s best interest if Obama loses? I'd like to hear the logic on that thought process. I honestly think that she wants what is best for our country, but beyond that, she wouldn't want to be seen as being the 'Ralph Nader' of 2008, the one who threw the election. If she comes across that way, her political ambitions are out the window.
  • ozarkmatt
    Hillary! wants to be president. Badly. So bad she can taste it. The next
    available time slot for her shot at the big prize is 2012. Now, would
    she want to go up against a incumbent president of her own party? Look
    at this way, if Obama is president in 2012 and she has a chance of
    unseating him in a primary, that means he has really screwed the pooch -
    thus ANY Democrat would have a tough time getting elected.

    Obama elected in 2008 + crappy presidency = Hillary! waits to 2016.
    Obama elected in 2008 + kick ass presidency = Hillary! waits to 2016.
    McCain elected in 2008 + either/or presidency = Hillary! has a shot in 2012.
  • Ted
    Um, Hillary wouldn't have run for president unless she really wanted to be president. Why is this such a revelation to you? Don't you think McCain wants to be president. "Badly. So bad he can taste it?" The same or Obama? The same for Bush when he ran in 2000? The same for John Kerry 2004? You don't throw your hat in the presidential ring and put your life under intense scrutiny for almost two years simply because you like the snacks they serve on the campaign jet.
  • ozarkmatt
    That is the point. Why would she wait until 2016? When an Obama loss now
    puts her in prime position for 2012?
  • Ted
    Too many unknowns in your prediction ...

    But I stand by my view that she's not like her husband when it comes to party politics. Plus, it's really amazing how obsessed 'wingers are with Hillary. It's a lot like my tween's hatred of Hannah Montana in that, I think my daughter really does like her, but can't admit it.
  • The right wingers secretly like Hillary because they see a lot of them in her - that also makes them loathe her. Hillary is a political pro and they would shat themselves into dehydration if they could get her to switch parties.
  • JonCummings
    What you're doing here, as I said in the post, is showing off precisely the reasons it was important NOT to nominate Hillary this year. I personally think Hillary would make a tremendous president if she were given the slightest bit of room to maneuver--but I didn't support her because I never believed she could win a general election because of exactly the type of spewing vitriol you're displaying toward her.

    I mean, she didn't even win and folks are STILL questioning her every motivation and every nuance of her language like she's a three-headed demon serpent.

    For Republicans to call Hillary "Macchiavellian" after all the shit they've pulled the last eight years is absolutely criminal.
  • ozarkmatt
    I don't think I have ever used the word "Macchiavellian" to describe
    Hillary! ever. Hell, if it wasn't for copy/paste I'm sure I would
    butcher the spelling!
    I'm not sure what "vitriol" I am "spewing." My point is for any Democrat
    (Hillary! included) not named Obama, that thinks he/she has the chops,
    the base and the burning desire to be president, would find it in their
    best interest if Obama loses this one. And right now there are only two
    Democrats that have those three things. One is running for president and
    the other gave a speech last night.
  • If Obama loses, the Democrats are finished. In a year where the GOP is so universally despised, if Rock StarBama can't cross the finish line, she'll only look like that much of a loser. Make no mistake about it. It's not Obama figting for the White House, it's the whole party fighting for its life.
  • JonCummings
    That's overdramatic. Consider the alternative--the GOP is going to lose badly in Congress in November, unless some bizarre scenario unfolds. If Obama wins and the Dems manage to get a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, does that mean the Republicans are dead?

    Even if Obama loses, Dems will still control Congress by large majorities--and will be far less likely to give McCain what he wants than they were in 2001, when they didn't even control anything.
  • steve
    Jon's got it right. Mark my words - Obama WILL lose but the Dems will broaden their majorities in congress. Overall I think that will put them in a much stronger position with McCain as Pres.

    Ozarkmatt also has it right - Hillary is obliged to give a ra-ra for Obama, but behind the scenes the Clinton machine is hoping/praying that he loses and no doubt doing things under the radar to hurt him. Bubba can't even get the words "he's qualified" out of his mouth. Just yesterday he hinted that he may even vote for McCain (the whole 'candidate X & candidate Y part of his speech yesterday). It's all about them, and always will be. If that fucktard Olbermann could just stop lusting and dreaming over Bill Oreilly for just one day he'd realize that the Clinton's should get the "Worst person in the World" every day for their reprehensible behavior throughout this whole mess. They're truly deplorable human beings.
  • I just don't see how the Dems can survive if they pull defeat from the jaws of victory this time. McCain's voting record for Bush is in the 90% range while the Democrats have the biggest political superstar since the Kennedys. A collapse would be a huge embarrassment and, after it, who the hell could they possibly put up?

    The Republicans are like the Yankees. They are perceived as being winners even if their season sucks. They'll survive with little problem. Much different than the Democrats who, with all these things in their favor, will look hopeless in yet another defeat.

    Overdramatic? Probably.
  • Elaine
    Thanks, guys! I do appreciate your objectifications. They were funny and didn't make me lose my dinner. Bravo! Hillary in her tangerine getup talking about the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pantsuit didn't do it for Campbell Brown though. She said there wasn't enough red meat coming out of this convention. That's what Slick is for, honey. Ohhhyeh, he'll take care of you tonight.
  • Slick's in a tough position tonight. He has to make up for the goodwill Hillary lost last night. She barely turned her speech into a unity cry. It was more about propping up her own ego and, oh by the way, yay Obama. Now Bill has to sell that unqualified unity and I don't think he has the stones for it.

    Why? He was the most divisive element of the primaries. Now he wants to be the healer? He's going to have to work that turd into a gleaming shinola and, I swear, if he makes any reference to that "first black president" crap, I'm going to scream.
  • steve
    Bubba will lie tonight and pretend he wants Obama to win. He's proved that he can lie very well. But his comments to reporters and in recent speeches show his true feelings. The funny thing is, he probably thinks we can't tell the difference.
  • Here's a drinking game for the Popdose fans: take a drink every time Bubba genuflects the faithful. You'll be hammered in no time.
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