Comments on: Dw. Dunphy On… Reconsidering Obama

By: JonCummings

JonCummings — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:28:09 +0000

I'm amazed at the stridency with which Hillary and Obama's supporters attack each other's perspectives, considering that there is barely a millimeter of space between them on all the issues. I've had a long e-mail dispute today with my brother--who is a generation older than I, who is hellbent on revenge against the GOP, and who is supporting Hillary with all the usual arguments (while I support Obama with all THOSE usual arguments).

I dearly hope Obama wins; nearly as much, even if Hillary eventually takes it, I hope she and Bill quit the Jekyll-and-Hyde routine where they're lovey-dovey, party-first one week and then Obama=Jesse Jackson, let's-grab-delegates-nobody-competed-for the next.

One of them needs to be the next president.

By: JonCummings

JonCummings — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:28:09 +0000

By: DwDunphy

DwDunphy — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:12:25 +0000

I agree that Obama's speeches have been sadly wanting, but every day I'm more convinced that a vote for McCain is a vote for Dubya. If you check his voting record for the last couple years, he's been pretty consistent with the current administration, turning his back on his own initiatives!

By: Dan

Dan — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:43:50 +0000

I'm a leftie, but I hate Hillary. Ha-yay-yay-yay-yate her. Her (and Bill's) sense of entitlement is disgusting. And her donors are corporations and shady characters. As Frank Rich said, if she goes head to head with McCain, her weapons against Obama are useless. Experience? McCain has more. Suited to be commander in chief? McCain again.
And really, how useful is experience? Bush has been the ACTUAL PRESIDENT for 7 years longer than any of the candidates.
Obama is ok, but all I keep hearing is “Hope! Change! Hope for Change! Change to hope!”

By: DwDunphy

DwDunphy — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:38:25 +0000

That's because they know, as Bill Withers once sang, it's “just the two of us”. They can pitch fit all they want, but it's one or the other and either will have to face the GOP machine & will need the other's back. And that's fine by me.

By: J

Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:14:41 +0000

Anyone catch the latest debate between Clinton and Obama? It's a veritable love-in. I kind of expected them to tongue kiss. Perhaps a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket isn't as out of reach as one would have thought a week ago.

By: DwDunphy

DwDunphy — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:17:39 +0000

Well, that's what I'm dealing with. I'm casting my vote in order to respond to the question, are you better off than you were four (or eight) years ago. I'm not, but I'm not convinced that Hillary is the cure, nor do I like the possibility that Bill could be a shadow president.

But I know two things: A Democrat has to win in order for the little guy to ever have a voice again, and I truly believe that. Secondly, my team won the Super Bowl tonight so I'm feeling good about the underdogs right now.

By: Allen

Allen — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:48:39 +0000

I have been on the fence all week. When confronted by the issues you bring up, truth be told, I couldn't care less. I don't buy into the "Billary" bullshit. I caught a speech that Michelle Obama gave on behalf of her husband on C-Span at some school There were about 40 people there. She was moving. She might as well have been stumping. But she doesn't get the kind of press Bill does.
Hillary would be a great president and I would love to live in a time when a woman could be president of the US.
What I fear for (and what no one is really talking about) are two things: Obama doesn't fucking SAY anything. it's ALL rhetoric. Why? Because his only track record is local politics and a smattering of Washington. Oh, good, he's an outsider, great. Um, you really think all the insiders are just going to roll over for the new guy? Also, and this is more important. With Hillary we KNOW all the bad shit. We are prepared. There's not a lot to swift boat there. When the swift boating happens, and it will, what are they going to turn up on the first presidential candidate to admit to snorting coke? You don't think they're gonna ram that down middle america's throat? Or the south? I mean, I KNOW the south is just ITCHING to vote for a black guy, right?
This should have been simple. It should have been Clinton/Obama for 8 then Obama as president in 2016. No one could have counted on high flying rhetoric resounding so hard for a nation so completly lost and hopeless.
I hope it's not a mistake.

By: 1Py_Korry1

1Py_Korry1 — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:02:37 +0000

I hear ya, brother! I think Bill Clinton has really done a disservice to not only Hillary, but to his legacy as well. Obama represents a “fresh start,” but it's going to be a tough slog if he wins this thing.

By: onebrownjeff

onebrownjeff — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:56:00 +0000

I'd always seen my vote as a necessary requirement of my being a citizen… my duty… my responsibility so I could continue to live in this pretty good (but not quite great YET) country. I also, up until now have always felt like I was voting for the lesser of evils… voting for the candidate I disliked the least.

Then I caught Barack Obama's Speech after Iowa. He won, but it didn't matter for he said in his vision, we could all win, honorably. He then lost New Hampshire, but it didn't matter for he said the race was long and together we could build a better country and make friends again with the rest of the world, end an unjust war, and work to protect America and Americans.

I began to see hope. I began to turn a corner, and I am actually excited to go register my vote for Barack Obama This Tuesday in Kansas. He actually has me caucusing for the first time ever too. Hopefully there are tons of folks just as energized as I am. This is becoming an interesting election cycle for me, and I feel for the rest of the country too.