Early Thoughts: Sucky Punch (Really, Zack Snyder? Really?!)

Matt Springer July 30, 2010 47

My first inclination upon seeing the teaser trailer for Zack Snyder’s upcoming film Sucker Punch was to post a series of boob jokes to Twitter.

That’s not surprising. My response to most things is either a boob joke or a dick joke.

After giving the footage a closer look, however, it struck me that there actually isn’t much boobage to speak of. That’s not to say there isn’t plenty of oversexualization of women on display; if you don’t have a sword or a slutty outfit, you don’t belong in this film. Preferably, you need both. It’s just not one of those “HOLY HOOTERS” type of movies.

But it’s still scummy, oh yes, and that’s based on just 90 seconds of it, so sure, I’m prejudging a film based on its teaser trailer. Welcome to the Internet.

What makes it scummy didn’t become clear until my pal Dr. Puppykicker captured it for me:

Snyder’s abiding passions appear to be sexualizing little girls and missing the point of Alan Moore. Countdown to LOST GIRLS?

The Alan Moore part is quite true and quite funny, but it’s the “sexualizing little girls” part that got to me. Because these aren’t your typical big-tittied action babes who are good to go in every sense of the phrase. These are small women, dressed in microskirts that allow the viewer to pick their porno poison–Asian schoolgirls, or Catholic schoolgirls. It could go either way; you choose!

So what we have here is the latest iteration of a very specific strain of disturbing filmmaking, the kind that attempts to depict “powerful” women that also happen to be sexualized into objects of fetishistic desire. It’s a fine line, though; I don’t know exactly where it sits, but I know bullshit when I see it, and Sucker Punch looks like bullshit.

Snyder’s grand “inspiration” is to marry some very specific fetishes with very specific subjects for male geekgasms. There’s the sci-fi sequence, the Lord of the Rings sequence, the Kill Bill samurai kung-fu sequence, the WWI biplane sequence. He seems to be putting them into a blender too, so you get a WWI biplane fighting a dragon or some such. And it’s all wrapped up in a story that victimizes a young woman who is about to be lobotomized and thus escapes into a world within her imagination.

It’s hard for me to get too frothed up over Sucker Punch; it’s nothing surprising or unexpected. If you gave a thousand monkeys a thousand CG workstations and a thousand twentysomething actresses in slutty clothes, you’d eventually get EXACTLY this as the next project “from the visionary director of 300 and Watchmen.”

I guess more than anything it’s the alchemy behind it that’s so astonishing. This does not seem like an organically created project; it seems like the kind of thing that emerges when you put “male geek,” “skanks,” and “CGI” into the Bat-Computer and then make a movie based on the punch card it spits out. That makes me pretty angry because geek culture and the entertainment we enjoy have really made some big strides in the past decade or two…and I say that not as a fanboy desperately in need of validation from the jocks who used to beat me up in high school but now stand in front of me in line for Iron Man 2. I say that as a fanboy who just wants to see as much cool shit make it to the screen as possible. And as such, it’s a little sad that geek culture has already become decipherable by Hollywood scumbag math.

Can you fetishize and empower women at the same time? I don’t know the answer to that question. It’s for bigger minds than mine.

I do have a feeling, however, that pursuing an answer should be in the service of a greater good than legitimizing a movie about tiny women fighting giant robots in revealing clothing.

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  • CraigoryVOL

    Thanks for the thoughts, Matt. It's been a trend for a while, and it's a complex issue. I say complex because there are some ties to a wrong turn in feminism, so that it can't just be written off as male exploitation of women. It's just exploitation all around.

  • seanbateman

    Watchmen was brilliant, zack snyder turned it into as much a dark satire on current superhero cinema as the graphic novel was a dark satire on superhero comic book mythology, a film that saw the relevance in the graphic novel even more so today than in 86. Zack snyders movie is both a play on our dark fears of total obliteration (check out the constant shots of the twin towers, they're even still standing at the end after most of new york is destroyed, hinting that things really wont get any better) it plays on our collective fears of nuclear extinction and at the same time dimantles our most popular form of escapism from those fears, the superhero movie. The film reconises the chilling relevance of a big catastrophe being the only thing to truely bring us together. You are wrong.

  • Manugon

    I remember the 300 trailer was incredible awesomeness. Funny thing is, I don't really remember the movie.

  • http://twitter.com/MattSpringer Matt Springer

    I think all of those are things Zack Snyder thought were in the movie that I didn't see at all. Your mileage may vary.

  • Murder Mystery

    I see this new movie as more or less an amalgamation of every anime and manga trope ever imagined, and I think the Japanese do it better. Look at Gunslinger Girl for an example of chicks with guns done properly. As much as I liked the uncut version of Watchmen and Dawn of the Dead, this movie is going to be a train wreck … but a very spectacular train wreck!

  • Rexx Unknown

    Well said… If I didn't already spurn Snyder as the total non-visionary that he is this would really put me off of this movie. Don't worry, though. Nothing he's ever done has been either a critical darling or a run away hit. His geek culture impact has been, and will remain, marginal at best.

  • Rexx Unknown

    Watchmen was not brilliant. You're deconstruction of the bigger themes present in the piece is all in your head. Whatever relevance it had was due entirely to Alan Moore, not some illusory improvement wrought at the hands of a hack who thought he needed to rewrite one of the greatest pieces of pop-culture literature. You probably ought to take a few film classes before you go splashing zack snyder's brilliance all over the web. The fact that you can type that with a straight face clearly illustrates that you are not qualified to conjecture.

  • The Scraggler

    Those who can, make movies. Those who can't, sit behind their computers and criticize everything in an effort to say “Hey! Look at me! I'm important!” I think we can safely say which side you fall on, Matt.

  • jamesballenger

    I don't necessarily agree with your assessment of the trailer. I say this because I agreed wholeheartedly with you until I actually watched the it. I got the impression that the girls were already fetishized and are trying to “take that back”. Of course there will be “those guys” that go to see it because of the barely legal status of the girls; but having Scott Glen in it makes me give pause. He's not somebody that does it for the paycheck. This looks much more layered and deeper than the surface, of course I could be incredibly off base here. I don't think that Snyder is a visionary director by ANY stretch of the imagination. He does have a keen eye for the visuals. And that's what movies are, but he's not someone with any any foresight into the future of cinema. 300 felt like an extended sizzle trailer with no real meat to dig into, so we shall see.

  • http://twitter.com/MattSpringer Matt Springer

    Yes, we can.

  • http://twitter.com/MattSpringer Matt Springer

    I will agree that I'm curious to see what Scott Glenn's presence adds to the mix.

  • http://antisocialjournal.wordpress.com/ Skinnee1984

    First of all, great article. Anyone who's going to cry because of your opinion is an idiot.

    I'm a nerd and proud of that, and I want to watch this movie. However, I prefer as much sex as possible. When Cherry Darling in Planet Terror quitted the Go-Go dance, that was badass. Women in action movies work best when their sexuality isn't explicit. They can wear skimpy clothing (Action heroes also take their shirt off), but so long as their characters remain unsexual (couldn't find a better term) they're suited as heroes.

    That's my two cents, at least. It's pretty strange but I'd like to know your thoughts.

  • bolankeith

    I'd just like to see at least one superhero/sci fi style movie without someone landing on one knee and slowly gazing up to the camera – just one.

  • http://twitter.com/MattSpringer Matt Springer

    I just like to see strong women characters who may be sexual but are not defined by their sexuality primarily. That's all. Perhaps it's too early to tell for sure but this sure seems like it's being marketed at least as “babes with swords fight computer-generated beasties.”

  • Ahmednaga

    Zack Snyder is a director who has a great imagination, he made 300 brilliantly, if we talk about watchmen, I think Zack did his best, if watchmen wasn't as great as the novel, then this is not Zack's mistake, this is the mistake of the fans who wanted a movie too faithful to the novel.You can't adapt a novel which is considered an action one without changing things in it's construction and as a result the only thing that saved the movie was the style, the acting and the amazing dialogue that was done in the novel, but rather than this, the movie was unfocused, the characters seemed to be locked in the scenes and lost in the movie, that people who don't know anything about the main concept of watchmen will be lost and will think that the movie doesn't have a story.That's why I'm looking forward to Sucker punch.

  • http://antisocialjournal.wordpress.com/ Skinnee1984

    Yes! You nailed it. I felt Cherry wasn't defined by her sexuality, especially after she quitted the Go-Go club. That's what made her appealing. I want to see more action heroins like her. That's why i enjoyed Alice (Resident Evil) and Ellen Ripley (Alien series).

  • Danbo

    “…strong women characters who may be sexual but are not defined by their sexuality primarily”. I think Queen Gorgo in 300 fits that description to a tee. And remember it was Snyder's idea to expand that character for the movie. Miller's graphic novel hardly mentioned her. So I think Zack is up to the task if that is his intent.

    A well-written article, Mr. Springer. But if you want social meaning to be the foundation for every movie, well, good luck with that. Sometimes we go to the movies for art, and sometimes we go for just good dumb fun. And when we are really lucky, we get both!

  • Deadrabbitrecords

    Newsflash: A lot of girls imagine themselves being young and hot, they're not going to daydream they look like Steinham with baggy flannel shirts. If a woman had directed this, she'd be credited with using female archtypes to poke fun at them. But since Snyder does it, he's sexist.

  • Turkish124

    I thought this article was pretty ridiculous overall. Have you ever watched an action movie before? Whether men or women the one thing that is never left out is sex. I never heard anyone crying for poor Arnold who's shirt was constantly disappearing at the most inconvenient times. This isn't sexism, it's a double standard.

  • Pantoufle

    Yep that's exactly my thoughts too. Actually it is even worse with male action guys – don't tell me they are not over-sexualized or that women who are watching should be ashamed for thinking they are hot. Same with this trailer – they all looked like 18+ to me, hot sure but tough too. Remember Ripley in her underwear at the end of Alien? Nothing wrong with any of the trailer so far.

    Of course, since it's Snyder he might indeed have some gratuitous scenes thrown in the movie for no reason at all. Something like the splattered bone fragments on the ceiling in Watchmen.. Let's wait and see.

  • Unknownmafiaman

    I dont understand all this bickering about feminism because all i see is a bunch of awsome looking girls kicking ass in a very cool ways…. I hate feminism … i think it very frequently puts females over males when thats not the frigin idea; the idea is equality… people fail to understand this and thats why they cannot appreciate movies like this…

  • Unknownmafiaman

    lol besides the dialogue in the trailer is reused to its very max and the acting looks stuuupiiid… vennesa hudgens ? come on!!!!!!!!! thats almost a cinematic suicide… the visuals look georgeous and the stunts no different. looks to be a promising movie when it comes down to the plot, but, again, the writing and preformances look cheesy and somewhat unbalanced in some areas… eh those are just my trailer impressions … has nothing to do with the above article but … yoooo nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • Angelus1753

    Zack did the same thing with guys in 300. I mean there was no wardrobe; they were all practically fighting in their undies!! Not to mention the hours upon hours all of them including extras had to work out in the gym to get those Spartan abs. I didn't hear that being called male exploitation! (On the contrary it is included in the list of “The Manliest Movies” by RT.) But see a chick fighting in a schoolgirl uniform and suddenly he is sexist!? IMHO its reading a bit too much into it.

  • Oneguy'shumbleopinion

    Matt, I'll start off by saying I like that you have a concise opinion that is well written and most importantly, entertaining. If Z S were a woman, would that change things for you? I recommend getting feedback from the fairer sex on this after more info is available. You seem terrified that this may be an indictment on the male condition, as if it were an incompatible filter that can only poison the concept of female empowerment. Because this movie is set within a pop-culture fantasy-world extravaganza, you take it one step further by suggesting that it may be seen as the “geek” male condition tainting an ideal for unscrupulous gain. What about entertainment? Of course there will be detractors. There will also be men AND women who love it! There will also be women who love the type of men who love it…

  • Bollwego

    Seriously?! This is what is wrong with America, people like this guy can tear down a movie without it even coming out. I watched the trailer and really did not pay attention to the cladding of the women. If you want to get literary, then here is one for you. You remind me of Ellsworth Toohey from Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead (try reading it's fun). You are tearing down this young talented director, just because you disagree. And look now, I go on Rottentomatoes and this crap blog on the homepage? This is a shame and I hope no one listens to this idiot, because I really think Zach just wanted to make a kick ass Alice in Wonderland (because Tim Burton's was disappointing). Honestly, men are exploited just as much as women are (need proof….300), but I don't hear anyone bitching about that. You are a hypocrite sir and I am disappointed I am even responding to this blog. It's just people like you are everything that is wrong in the world today. Leave the director alone and let him make HIS movie dammit! It's about time someone had his own original idea rather than another Hulk or Spider-man.

  • Plainview

    Sucker Punch looks awesome. This is my most anticipated movie right now.

    Complex issue, my ass. I'm tired of the whole sexism/exploitation conversation. IMO, there aren't enough movies with scantily clad women kicking ass. And the fact that you, Matt Springer, refer to them as “skanks” and state that this movie makes you “pretty angry” just goes to show everyone that this post stems from nothing more than your own poor (or nonexistent) sex life.

    It's just a movie. Those things that people watch to be entertained. And this looks damn entertaining.

  • Sdfsd

    This is the worst attempt at trolling that I have ever seen.

  • Warpcrafter

    What's my reaction to “Sucker Punch”? Fapfapfap Waaaaggghhh!!!! Fapfapfap!!!!

  • Graham Williamson

    Somehow I get the impression that if Matt had posted a lengthy article about how awesome the Sucker-Punch trailer looks, he wouldn't be getting people complaining about “judging things based on the trailer”. Newsflash – everyone judges things based on the trailer. That's why trailers exist, to give you an impression of whether this particular movie is something you might like to see or not.

    Also, Ayn Rand sucks. Try reading novels that aren't laughable black-and-white oversimplifications of complex issues written by philosophical ignoramuses. I recommend Bruce Chatwin.

  • http://www.tdimension.ca TDimension Studios

    First of all I don't think it's fair to knock a movie based on a minute and half of random footage. Some great trailers turn out as mediocre movies and vice versa. Secondly, this is a Zack Snyder movie and after being successful with the Dawn of the Dead remake, 300 and Watchmen, I don't think he's gonna risk going Uwe Boll.

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  • http://twitter.com/MattSpringer Matt Springer

    If this is the worst, NAME THE BEST. I refuse to take a back seat to anybody!

  • http://twitter.com/MattSpringer Matt Springer

    I read quite a bit, and if I read for every minute of every day of every year for the rest of my life, I wouldn't go near Ayn Rand with a gun to my head.

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    will…will you sleep with me?

  • http://twitter.com/MattSpringer Matt Springer

    Yes, Snyder isn't exactly a person known for his restraint, which also makes me think he will go over the top in the wrong direction here. What bothered me most about Watchmen was that he seemed to amplify the very aspects of the graphic novel that the authors seemed least interested in…the sex and the violence. On the other hand, I enjoyed 300, precisely because he amplified the sex and the violence, which I thought fit the story perfectly.

  • http://twitter.com/MattSpringer Matt Springer

    I have in fact never watched an action movie before…unless Love, Actually counts?

  • http://twitter.com/MattSpringer Matt Springer

    I'm not sure how I'd feel if it were a female director; probably the same? It's an interesting question.

    I don't necessarily feel this is an “indictment on the male condition” or “tainting an ideal”; I just think its attitudes toward women and special effects seem more calculated than inspired. I hear and take the point on fun vs. “art”; I don't see what's wrong in wanting both at the same time, but I can enjoy one without the other. This honestly doesn't seem all that “fun” to me either; I feel like I'd spend the entire movie trying to spot which other movie/comic book/anime each sequence had been cribbed from.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pauline-Hill/1013437083 Pauline Hill

    lol I totally agree with you. It's got everything from show girls to dragons to samurai to airships… and that's just from a brief trailor!

    I agree that it will make for a spectacular train wreck – but just that will make it more than worth seeing on the big screen :D

  • Fugly

    Pull the stick out of your ass. It's unapologetic fantasy.

  • Dan

    Maybe you should wait for the actual film to cast of what little you know. We are animals, the actual concept of clothing is absurd. You take out the religous dogma and liberal sissiness of not wanting to offend ANYONE (actually calling terrorists Muslim terrorists would be nice in the news). Instead you are just attacking adirector with a talent for visual flair that just wants things to look as cool as possible. You act like he is halfway to child porn. And yet I bet you wouldn't say boo to those who marry 9 year old girls, or have a society that would put that same girl to death if SHE was raped! If you are worried about women's rights, start there. Grab every women you see in a shroud and let them know they are doing so much harm to their own gender it's maddening! Then again, that would take actual balls. It's so much easier to attack someone for wanting to make movies he thinks looks cool. It is SOOO much more important to respect the beliefs of people subjegating an entire gender.

  • Luv_8484

    Base on the 2 mn-less tailer, sure u already judge the movie.
    Just wait and see. Don't be hurry.

  • montecore

    Nothing personal but you hit the nail on the head when admitting that you are judging a film based on it's trailer. That's where I stopped paying any attention to the what ever else you wrote. In March 2011, I will gladly read and pay attention to your review of the film – which I think will be beyond awesome by the way.

  • Rexx Unknown

    To everybody who acts as if a film must be released in order to conjecture as to its cinematic value: what you guys don't understand about film could fill the Kodak Theatre. A film can be evaluated long before a trailer has even been released. Do we know who wrote the movie? Yes, one screenwriter who's never been one before, and a hack who thought that he could re-write one of the best pieces of pop literature ever. Do we know who is directing it? Starring in it? Can we evaluate the collective worth of those various filmographies? Yes, yes, emphatically yes. In this case, does any of it add up to anything of value? Exceedingly doubtful. I wish one person with some cinematic sensibility would post on this issue. Dumbasses

  • BitterPile

    300 sucks giant as balls – Stylish idolization of warmongering, no wonder Americans like it.

  • Cclark

    let me get this straight. you’re trying to say that zack snyder fetishizes women as schoolgirls because they don’t have big boobs? who exactly is objectifying who here?

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    Wait, did somebody say “big boobs”? You have my attention.

  • Relotixke

    It’s really nice to read a review of this movie that actually acknowledges the sexism. There are just too many creepy vibes in this movie to be ignored.