Comments on: Jesus of Cool: Boomers See “The Stranger” in Themselves http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/ your daily dose of pop culture Fri, 25 May 2012 06:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Top 5: Complications and Hazards « The Hits Just Keep On Comin’http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-8684 Top 5: Complications and Hazards « The Hits Just Keep On Comin’ Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:34:44 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/#comment-8684 [...] the arrival of the deluxe 30th-anniversary CD/DVD edition of Billy Joel’s The Stranger with something less than open arms. Jon claims the album is an artifact of the moment in 1978 when the baby boomers went soft, giving [...] [...] the arrival of the deluxe 30th-anniversary CD/DVD edition of Billy Joel’s The Stranger with something less than open arms. Jon claims the album is an artifact of the moment in 1978 when the baby boomers went soft, giving [...]

]]> By: erichttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-51046 eric Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:15:58 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/#comment-51046 Which side am I on? The side of good music, of course. The Stranger may be a classic album, but I've already bought it twice, and frankly the sound was not very good on vinyl, nor on the original CD release, and barely any better on the remaster. If this is a re-remaster, I still hold little hope for much improvement. So I am also on the side of not contributing further to the upkeep of Joel's many mansions. And I'm becoming very suspicious of re-releases. Sometimes (the Frank Sinatra Capitol remasters) the new versions sound worse than the originals. Caveat emptor. Which side am I on? The side of good music, of course. The Stranger may be a classic album, but I've already bought it twice, and frankly the sound was not very good on vinyl, nor on the original CD release, and barely any better on the remaster. If this is a re-remaster, I still hold little hope for much improvement. So I am also on the side of not contributing further to the upkeep of Joel's many mansions. And I'm becoming very suspicious of re-releases. Sometimes (the Frank Sinatra Capitol remasters) the new versions sound worse than the originals. Caveat emptor.

]]> By: erichttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-41347 eric Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:15:58 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/#comment-41347 Which side am I on? The side of good music, of course. The Stranger may be a classic album, but I've already bought it twice, and frankly the sound was not very good on vinyl, nor on the original CD release, and barely any better on the remaster. If this is a re-remaster, I still hold little hope for much improvement. So I am also on the side of not contributing further to the upkeep of Joel's many mansions. And I'm becoming very suspicious of re-releases. Sometimes (the Frank Sinatra Capitol remasters) the new versions sound worse than the originals. Caveat emptor. Which side am I on? The side of good music, of course. The Stranger may be a classic album, but I've already bought it twice, and frankly the sound was not very good on vinyl, nor on the original CD release, and barely any better on the remaster. If this is a re-remaster, I still hold little hope for much improvement. So I am also on the side of not contributing further to the upkeep of Joel's many mansions. And I'm becoming very suspicious of re-releases. Sometimes (the Frank Sinatra Capitol remasters) the new versions sound worse than the originals. Caveat emptor.

]]> By: erichttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-12415 eric Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:15:58 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/#comment-12415 Which side am I on? The side of good music, of course. The Stranger may be a classic album, but I've already bought it twice, and frankly the sound was not very good on vinyl, nor on the original CD release, and barely any better on the remaster. If this is a re-remaster, I still hold little hope for much improvement. So I am also on the side of not contributing further to the upkeep of Joel's many mansions. And I'm becoming very suspicious of re-releases. Sometimes (the Frank Sinatra Capitol remasters) the new versions sound worse than the originals. Caveat emptor. Which side am I on? The side of good music, of course. The Stranger may be a classic album, but I've already bought it twice, and frankly the sound was not very good on vinyl, nor on the original CD release, and barely any better on the remaster. If this is a re-remaster, I still hold little hope for much improvement. So I am also on the side of not contributing further to the upkeep of Joel's many mansions. And I'm becoming very suspicious of re-releases. Sometimes (the Frank Sinatra Capitol remasters) the new versions sound worse than the originals. Caveat emptor.

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-12400 DwDunphy Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:25:14 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/#comment-12400 A more fleshed-out response is above. A more fleshed-out response is above.

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-12414 DwDunphy Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:29:47 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/#comment-12414 Badaboom. Badaboom.

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-12408 DwDunphy Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:29:16 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/#comment-12408 P.S. I'm not looking to piss you off at all, Ken. We're fellow Popdosers after all and you know (approximately) where I live. P.S. I'm not looking to piss you off at all, Ken. We're fellow Popdosers after all and you know (approximately) where I live.

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-12403 DwDunphy Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:25:43 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/#comment-12403 There are people from the era I know who were actual protesters and they readily say, "I wasn't there to get the government to listen to me. I wasn't a fifty year old white man with money to burn. Of course they weren't going to listen. I just didn't want to sympathize, in spirit, with something I knew to be wrong." I have respect for them because they are not framing themselves as being triumphal. They said their piece.<br><br>Then I know other former protesters who are arrogant, to the day, and have totally drunk the Kool-Aid. "The government came to their senses because of us. we changed the world." No. A thousand times, no. They bask in the glow of a fallacy, this two-dimensional idea of what they thought they accomplished that is just not true. To me, that reads as masturbatory, that they continue on with this illusion of control long after economists, historians and even former protesters themselves have roundly discredited their effect.<br><br>It's like being exultant over the big test you think you passed but actually didn't. Someone else passed the test, you just slapped your name on it and hailed yourself the hero. How is that not arrogant? Hell, there was a three night PBS documentary about the Boomers that was so self-congratulatory that it could have been a parody. That's where my angst comes into play: there are responsible people who tell it like it was and then there are those who tell it like they want it to be. Which is real? There are people from the era I know who were actual protesters and they readily say, “I wasn't there to get the government to listen to me. I wasn't a fifty year old white man with money to burn. Of course they weren't going to listen. I just didn't want to sympathize, in spirit, with something I knew to be wrong.” I have respect for them because they are not framing themselves as being triumphal. They said their piece.

Then I know other former protesters who are arrogant, to the day, and have totally drunk the Kool-Aid. “The government came to their senses because of us. we changed the world.” No. A thousand times, no. They bask in the glow of a fallacy, this two-dimensional idea of what they thought they accomplished that is just not true. To me, that reads as masturbatory, that they continue on with this illusion of control long after economists, historians and even former protesters themselves have roundly discredited their effect.

It's like being exultant over the big test you think you passed but actually didn't. Someone else passed the test, you just slapped your name on it and hailed yourself the hero. How is that not arrogant? Hell, there was a three night PBS documentary about the Boomers that was so self-congratulatory that it could have been a parody. That's where my angst comes into play: there are responsible people who tell it like it was and then there are those who tell it like they want it to be. Which is real?

]]> By: Danhttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-12413 Dan Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:44:24 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/#comment-12413 fuhgeddaboudit. fuhgeddaboudit.

]]> By: JonCummingshttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-12412 JonCummings Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:00:11 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-boomers-see-the-stranger-in-themselves/#comment-12412 None taken! I'm always happy to start a free-for-all. None taken! I'm always happy to start a free-for-all.

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