Comments on: Jesus of Cool: Carlene Carter, Back and “Stronger” http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/ your daily dose of pop culture Fri, 25 May 2012 06:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: revmehttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/comment-page-1/#comment-50007 revme Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:00:15 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/#comment-50007 Neato! I not only love Carlene Carter, but I ADORE Mary Chapin Carpenter -- particularly that song, and that's a dandy version of it. Thanks! Neato! I not only love Carlene Carter, but I ADORE Mary Chapin Carpenter — particularly that song, and that's a dandy version of it. Thanks!

]]> By: revmehttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/comment-page-1/#comment-40051 revme Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:00:15 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/#comment-40051 Neato! I not only love Carlene Carter, but I ADORE Mary Chapin Carpenter -- particularly that song, and that's a dandy version of it. Thanks! Neato! I not only love Carlene Carter, but I ADORE Mary Chapin Carpenter — particularly that song, and that's a dandy version of it. Thanks!

]]> By: revmehttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/comment-page-1/#comment-15103 revme Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:00:15 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/#comment-15103 Neato! I not only love Carlene Carter, but I ADORE Mary Chapin Carpenter -- particularly that song, and that's a dandy version of it. Thanks! Neato! I not only love Carlene Carter, but I ADORE Mary Chapin Carpenter — particularly that song, and that's a dandy version of it. Thanks!

]]> By: Th Painehttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/comment-page-1/#comment-15102 Th Paine Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:13:11 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/#comment-15102 Interesting that you mention Loretta Lynn --as she is most often credited (if that is the word) with originating the phrase "putting the cunt in country." Interesting that you mention Loretta Lynn –as she is most often credited (if that is the word) with originating the phrase “putting the cunt in country.”

]]> By: JonCummingshttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/comment-page-1/#comment-15101 JonCummings Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:37:22 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/#comment-15101 I don't know how you decided Dolly Parton needed to be brought into this, but...while I don't know if Parton would consider herself a feminist (and, really, what a woman considers herself should be our only basis for such a label, shouldn't it?), she certainly has achieved a great deal both in music and business, and many of her songs take a feminist stance. (As do Loretta Lynn's, for another example among many.)<br><br>There's a Chartburn column coming up soon that will explore some of the many...ahem...contours and crevices of Dolly's stardom. In the meantime, if anybody out there is interested in a detailed discussion of country music's greatest female artists, beginning with Carlene Carter's ancestors the Carter Family, there's a great book called "Finding Her Voice: The Saga of Women in Country Music." It inspired the TV special that featured the Mary Chapin Carpenter clip above. I don't know how you decided Dolly Parton needed to be brought into this, but…while I don't know if Parton would consider herself a feminist (and, really, what a woman considers herself should be our only basis for such a label, shouldn't it?), she certainly has achieved a great deal both in music and business, and many of her songs take a feminist stance. (As do Loretta Lynn's, for another example among many.)

There's a Chartburn column coming up soon that will explore some of the many…ahem…contours and crevices of Dolly's stardom. In the meantime, if anybody out there is interested in a detailed discussion of country music's greatest female artists, beginning with Carlene Carter's ancestors the Carter Family, there's a great book called “Finding Her Voice: The Saga of Women in Country Music.” It inspired the TV special that featured the Mary Chapin Carpenter clip above.

]]> By: erichttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/comment-page-1/#comment-15100 eric Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:47:28 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/#comment-15100 By your standards, I suppose Dolly Parton would not be considered a feminist. :) Her new song Better Get To Livin' is great, though. I don't even like country music, but she won me over on that one. <br><br>And isn't she a much better role model? Major business success, now a philanthropist, stayed away from scandal AFAIK. I confess I'm not familiar with Carlene Carter's work. I'll give these songs a listen and judge them on their merits. But I suspect there is good reason for the disparity between the commercial success of Parton versus Carter. Parton is a consummate entertainer, according to my best friend. He doesn't like country either, but his wife dragged him to a Dolly Parton concert, and he couldn't help being entertained. And from my perspective, there is a bedrock sincerity about her work. <br><br>Maybe she never put the cunt in country, but she put the boob back in the booboiesie. Nobody can deny that. ;-) By your standards, I suppose Dolly Parton would not be considered a feminist. :) Her new song Better Get To Livin' is great, though. I don't even like country music, but she won me over on that one.

And isn't she a much better role model? Major business success, now a philanthropist, stayed away from scandal AFAIK. I confess I'm not familiar with Carlene Carter's work. I'll give these songs a listen and judge them on their merits. But I suspect there is good reason for the disparity between the commercial success of Parton versus Carter. Parton is a consummate entertainer, according to my best friend. He doesn't like country either, but his wife dragged him to a Dolly Parton concert, and he couldn't help being entertained. And from my perspective, there is a bedrock sincerity about her work.

Maybe she never put the cunt in country, but she put the boob back in the booboiesie. Nobody can deny that. ;-)

]]> By: JonCummingshttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/comment-page-1/#comment-15099 JonCummings Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:26:49 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/#comment-15099 Howie Epstein produced "Every Little Thing" and the rest of the Little Love Letters album. I'm not saying that Nick's influence isn't reflected in both the production and the video--it would be natural if that WERE the case, since his style undoubtedly influenced her during their marriage. However, the whole "multiple personalities" thing is a pretty standard convention in music videos. Howie Epstein produced “Every Little Thing” and the rest of the Little Love Letters album. I'm not saying that Nick's influence isn't reflected in both the production and the video–it would be natural if that WERE the case, since his style undoubtedly influenced her during their marriage. However, the whole “multiple personalities” thing is a pretty standard convention in music videos.

]]> By: JonCummingshttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/comment-page-1/#comment-15097 JonCummings Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:19:55 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/#comment-15097 I'm gonna take a wild guess that Carlene and Howie fell into the heroin trap together. Howie was a big boy--though, apparently, not a particularly strong one. I'm not sure it's fair to characterize Carlene as the vixen responsible for Howie's death or Francis Reidy's--though I don't know the intimate details any better than you guys do. Reidy's story IS a strange one, though. I'm gonna take a wild guess that Carlene and Howie fell into the heroin trap together. Howie was a big boy–though, apparently, not a particularly strong one. I'm not sure it's fair to characterize Carlene as the vixen responsible for Howie's death or Francis Reidy's–though I don't know the intimate details any better than you guys do. Reidy's story IS a strange one, though.

]]> By: Old_Davyhttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/comment-page-1/#comment-15098 Old_Davy Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:32:22 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/#comment-15098 How much influence did Nick Lowe have on the video/recording for "Every Little Thing"? The sound of the acoustic guitars in the intro scream THIS IS A NICK LOWE PRODUCTION, and with Carlene playing all the parts in the video, it reminds me of the cover of "Jesus of Cool". How much influence did Nick Lowe have on the video/recording for “Every Little Thing”? The sound of the acoustic guitars in the intro scream THIS IS A NICK LOWE PRODUCTION, and with Carlene playing all the parts in the video, it reminds me of the cover of “Jesus of Cool”.

]]> By: jefitohttp://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/comment-page-1/#comment-15096 jefito Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:57:55 +0000 http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-carlene-carter-back-and-stronger/#comment-15096 Not to mention the strange and terrible saga of Francis Reidy III. Not to mention the strange and terrible saga of Francis Reidy III.

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