Letter From the Editor: Does This Design Make Us Look Fat?

Jeff Giles May 1, 2009 45

84743728You may have noticed that it’s been a few weeks since my last letter — and that since then, we’ve rearranged the furniture around here, capping off months of preparation and hard work with the debut of the new and (if you ask us, anyway) improved Popdose. At least I hope you’ve noticed the redesign, ’cause it’s what I’m here to talk about today.

Not long after Popdose launched, we realized that the old design, while functional, exposed a fairly serious (albeit awesome) flaw, which was that we had too much content. Most weekdays, we were publishing a new post every two hours between 7:30 AM and 3:30 PM EST, which meant that nothing stayed on the front page longer than a day — and prevented us from effectively promoting “event” posts, like interviews and staff collaborations. The only way we could really get around this was by “pinning” posts to the top of the site, which had the unfortunate effect of making it look like we weren’t updating, or making everyone take a vacation, as we did when the Popdose 100 and Mellowmas ran last year.

Being that I read just about everything the site publishes, this design flaw has pissed me off for months, and patching it was my top priority when I set about redesigning the site. Taking inspiration from Salon — not, as a couple of snarky fucks have suggested, the AV Club — I spent a few months coming up with a new look that would allow for more content, more effective promotion of that content…and, well, open up more real estate for ads. Thanks to the coding wizardry of our pal Rahul, I’m happy to say that Popdose 2.0 accomplished all of those goals.

Of course, progress comes with a price, and our new digs have not escaped criticism, either from the writers who constantly pester me about putting the pill back into the site logo or from the aforementioned snarky fucks who have accused us of trading a “colorful” design for a pale imitation of the AV Club. I know we’re never going to be able to make everyone happy at once, but I am very interested in how our readers feel about their browsing experience here, so now that everyone has had some time to explore the new design, I’d like to open up the floor and get your thoughts on what you do or don’t like about the new look.

But before you give me your gripes about the way the site looks, I’d appreciate it if you could cast your votes in a poll. In the constantly changing stream of content Popdose produces, we’ve seen a lot of series go by the wayside during the last year. Some of them had to be put down — sorry, Cassingle Vault and Cutouts Gone Wild! diehards, they’re gone for good — but others have taken unplanned trips to column limbo, and I’m curious how you feel about that. Take a minute to check a box or six, and I’ll meet you in the comments!

Which features do you miss the most?

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  • http://www.drcastrato.blogspot.com drcastrato

    I wrote you previously, but my only compliant is the lack of a chronological list of all posts (perhaps in a sidebar), OR, a time stamp on each listing on the main page. And yeah you should totally put the Pill image back in the logo.

  • kmbone

    I'd also like to see a chronological list of all posts, or a time stamp. For me, it's kind of convoluted to check every category to see what's been added (although following the site on RSS helps).

  • http://www.ooblick.com/weblog/ arensb

    I subscribe to the RSS feed, so I don't have the problem of not seeing new articles.

    But the thing that's been annoying me lately is having to scroll down and to the right to hide the annoying flashing ads in the margins. I haven't gone so far as to install an ad blocker yet, but I'm this close.

    I understand that this site, like many others, depends on ad revenue. And fairly often, ads at sites I visit are for stuff I actually want. But flashing or animated ads are too distracting and annoying to put up with.

  • addictedtovinyl

    I think I'm a Popdose addict. I just voted for 5 out of the 6 missing features.

    I swear to God that I just read Salon as “taking inspiration from Satan.” No joke. I need help.

    I really like the re-design. It's VERY clean, as any good website design should be. It's the kind of design I've been wishing for for my own site, and with any luck, I'll accomplish similar goals soon.

    I'm honestly surprised that anyone visits the actual sites much anymore, with RSS readers. I click through just to comment, and besides that, I rarely notice links and any subtle tweeks that site owners might make.

    That being said, I think that the design also helped the overall readability of Popdose. The fonts, etc. are very pleasing to these eyes.

    Okay, that's all from me. Well done….you already knew I was a fan.

  • David_E

    I still pretty much fall in line with the comments here.

    Would love to see a time/date stamp on new articles, if possible … I miss the comments RSS … and I do miss that li'l pill icon.

    Also, yeah – the flashing, brightly colored ads still make me dizzzzzzyyyyy ….

  • solipsistnation

    As others said, not having a straight-up chronological list makes it hard to find new posts. I can't just scan down the page, I have to jump from section to section and consider if it's new, if I saw it yesterday, or what. Also, if an article looks potentially interesting, I now have to click over to it to see if it's really something I want to read and then if not, click back to the main page.

    Perhaps, if you have too much content (as if!), you could have shortened the excerpts that showed up on the front page and kept the chronological list?

    The multi-category front page also makes it much more obvious what sections get updated less often. I think the first couple of postings in the Books category have been there for a month now, unchanged. It makes your content look too static.

    A timestamp on the front page listings would be a good thing too, but then of course it becomes more obvious when categories haven't been updated in a month…

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    One of the first planned adjustments to the new design will be a tweak that takes the titles of posts younger than 24 hours old and turns them red. I'm hoping that helps with the “timestamp” issue.

    The animated ads bug me, too, for what it's worth.

  • tippos

    I agree with the previous posts regarding some way to highlight new content. Also, I will promise to click through on ads each of the 17 times I visit daily if you bring back Cover Me.

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    Cover Me's only been on hiatus because Mr. Medsker has been on paternity leave. It'll return soon.

  • http://www.ickmusic.com Michael

    I quite like the new design, and find it to be easier to zero in on the sections that I read most frequently and still be aware of what else is going on in Popdose-land.

    That said, Bring back the Mellow Gold and Chartburn !!

  • hagen

    Also, I miss Terje and into the Ear of Madness. Seal's got a set of videos with Foster on iTunes, and nobody to defend them.

  • http://www.grayflannelsuit.net/ GrayFlannelSuit

    I'm in the same boat as a few others here – I digest this site almost exclusively through my RSS feed and only visit to contribute a witty comment. With that in mind I offer some constructive criticism:

    -I also miss the pill icon.
    -The new design is certainly cleaner than the old, but I find it a bit sterile as well. Part of this may be because I have all the Firefox ad blockers installed so I'm seeing white space where ads live (sorry Jeff, I love the site, but can't abide ads). But overall, it doesn't seem to convey the charm and personality of the prior version.
    -Content wise I like the balance provided here, although if there is one thing I could stand less of it's the political stuff.

  • Russ

    I don't miss any of those features.

    The feature I miss most is “Idiot's Guide”.

  • tippos

    Best news I've had all week. Mazel tov to Mr. Medsker!

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    I know, I know. But after writing roughly one a week for a few years, I've come to the end of the list of artists I'm inclined to devote that much energy to writing about, which means we depend wholly on others for guides, and as putting them together is sort of daunting, we don't get many offers.

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    I've always been aware that the current events section would be the red-headed stepchild of the site, and I think all of our CE columnists are prepared to deal with that. It's my opinion, though, that politics falls under the umbrella of pop culture, and I think having those columns run here helps class up the joint.

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    We miss Terje too.

  • David_E

    Offer.

  • aryl w

    I really like the new format, but would appreciate having the date that the item was posted. It appears that others would like that feature too, but I wanted to add my vote to the loudly complaining throng ; – ), by the way, I really like the content overall & love the price. Keep up the great work!

  • http://www.grayflannelsuit.net/ GrayFlannelSuit

    I can understand that. I guess my real concern with the political/social pieces isn't whether they blend in but that they can be a bit divisive. Speaking only for myself, if I read a piece blasting a favorite band of mine it's no big deal (I'm a Kiss fan, having a thick skin is mandatory), but reading something that does the same to my political or religious beliefs can leave a sour taste.

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    Ah, but opinions are just opinions, whether they be musical or otherwise…

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    I understand where you are coming from. I know we tend to take a liberal slant, and that might alienate potential conservative-minded readers, but speaking personally it is important to have that current events section, even if a portion of our readership chooses to pass it by, and here's why…

    I can't and won't speak for Jeff, Jason, Robert or any of the staff, but solely for myself my dream for Popdose is to be a truly inclusive web magazine, not simply a blog (not that there's anything wrong with blogs.) Our see-saw is weighted toward music pop-culture, but there is a need for the current events stuff, and not in some bland, all-departments-accounted way either. Ann Logue's financial columns have been very insightful, and Jon Cummings' take on things, even things I don't always agree with, are thought provoking. They kick this site up from the straight-ahead music sites and, in fact, I know there are readers who pop in just for that section. The fact that they both write in an entertaining manner too proves to me that they'd kill on someone else's site. I'm glad they, and I, are on this one.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    Free rocks.

  • http://schiing.terjefjelde.com terje

    Thanks, Hagen. And thanks, Jeff. I miss me, too. I dig the new layout, though

  • JonCummings

    One thing I think might help occasional readers is a “Most Popular” sidebar on the home page — not like we had last year, with the most popular posts EVER, but a “Most Popular of the Week” sort of thing. That would allow links to well-read interviews & higher-profile music features to remain accessible past the first couple days after they post (since music posts are still the quickest to leave the page). Otherwise, highlighting the most recently posted features in red is a good idea.

    As for GrayFlannel's comments about the political content…um, don't read it if you don't want to read it. Now that the homepage is a set of links, just don't click on anything under the word “Current Events,” and I'll never piss you off again.

    Annie's stuff is important to a readership like ours, I think, because she focuses on discussing in fun and understandable ways the complicated economic problems we're facing–stuff that's easy to tune out. As for me, I just write about what I'm thinking about, and I'll keep doing it until somebody tells me they're not going to run it anymore.

  • thefxc

    I don't use RSS, I actually look at the site, but FWIW I have it bookmarked to the music section…

    The Idiot's Guides introduced me to this site, and that's what I miss most. I know they're labor intensive, but…one a month maybe? (At the very least, reposting/updates of IGs would be welcome–there's a new Pet Shop Boys, for example.) Heck, if you're hurtin' I can churn out a Front Line Assembly IG no prob…

    In general, love the site, like the redesign. Carry on!

  • RT

    I loved your site before. This is a mess. Very bad design. Hate the nav. Love the content. PLEASE REDESIGN. And thanks for asking. You had a brand. Now you've got a jumble.

  • http://mulberrypanda96.blogspot.com rwcass

    I still have a Sly & the Family Stone guide in the works, and a mini-guide for Papas Fritas. So hands off, everybody!

  • Jude

    No honey, the design doesn't make you look fat — your FAT makes you look fat.

  • jason

    “Tend to take a liberal slant”?! Here, let me summarize every single political piece that has ever been published on this site: “Republicans are mouth-breathing, evil idiots. And assholes.”

    Personally I love the redesign, just because my eyes no longer pass over and involuntarily absorb even a few paragraphs of that crap as I try to get to the good stuff.

  • jason

    One vote for the FLA IG. That would be amazing.

  • MC

    You may look fat, but I'd do you anyway… thumbs up on the new design, it's more fitting for what you have become.

    I miss “When Good Albums Happen…” the most. And I agree with those who miss the Idiot Guides. Any chance you'd ever re-post those from the old Jefitoblog days?

    Also, I'm really enjoying the Werner series.

    Keep up the good work! Thanks…

  • The Border Patrol

    A general thumbs-up for the re-design, although the classifications need work. (Like why is a review of the TV series “Lie To Me” filed under “music”?)

    Incidentally, while I see no reason why the site shouldn't have political content, I almost never read your political ariticles. This isn't because of any left-wing/right-wing issues: it's because frequently the authors of these articles seem to assume that everyone is American. Plenty of us aren't.

    On a similar note, I love Chartburn — but it might be fun to branch out and do another Chartburn with a UK chart. And what of NZ, Australian, or Canadian charts?

    I'll stop carping now. Despite my quibbles, overall this site is GREAT!

  • http://mulberrypanda96.blogspot.com rwcass

    You should just leave up all the MP3s all the time, or at least until the Internet dies in a million years. Dude, I totally promise I read all the words you guys write about whatever it is you're talking about (Springsteen, right?), but sometimes I don't have time to download all the free music in the week it's available. So never delete it. OK?

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    Are you volunteering to write a right-wing column, Jason?

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    Okay, so you hate it. Mind saying WHY?

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    Believe it or not, this discussion of Chartburn nationality did occur early in the series' run, but the consensus was basically this: the 'Burners are all US-based. While it would be fun to tackle, say, a New Zealand list, there's a good chance we won't have heard at least 60% of the songs on it. Whoever sets up the list has to also track down videos and such to guide us through. Jeff, who is the primary Chartburn editor, usually needs a week to cull together a coherent post out of our responses and sidebar interruptions (Okay, MY sidebar interruptions.)

    In essence, we'd love to do International Chartburn. I just don't know if we'd be digging a bottomless hole setting it up.

    As for International politics, kind of the same thing. I could write about other countries and their ruling parties, but it would be from an American's perspective. As you've noticed though, this site is welcoming to new writers so if you are or know someone outside of the borderlines with the skills, send them our way. We are not adverse to Overseas correspondents.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    Last year, during the Republican and Democratic conventions, we actually offered some of the more vocal Conservative readers to join us on the panel to balance things out. We were very aware it was a lopsided fight going on. Two opted out, one never responded to the offer, yet commented the very next day on how we were so biased.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    And you're going to post the MP3s and never ever take them down? Schweet!

  • breadalbane

    Actually, the fact that you might not have heard the song before could make it fun. This actually happens every so often even with the US-based Chartburn charts, and hilarty often ensues.

    By the bye, if you're ever doing a Canadian chart, count me in. Seriously. I can get an official Canadian top 10 list for you for pretty much any week from 1964-1999. (You'll find they don't differ from the US lists THAT much — but there's usually enough of a difference for you to notice you're dealing with a slightly different nation.)

    Oh, and the site redesign works for me. But count me amongst the ones who'd like to see a chronological list of recently posted artilces somewhere, even as a sidebar.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    E-mail Jeff with your Canadian chartness. After our poll, it's pretty clear the readers would like to see Chartburn and Mellow Gold return.

  • mojo

    No man, the question is “Does this design make us look PHAT?”

  • Chris B

    I'll chime in with the crowd asking for a chronology and possibly some kind of keywording?

    The last time I looked at PopDose, this article was at the top. Today, obviously it isn't, but where is it? Which subheading? Hell, what was the title again?

    Obviously it's not THAT big a deal if I'm posting this, but it definitely lacks grace.

  • Chris B

    I'll chime in with the crowd asking for a chronology and possibly some kind of keywording?

    The last time I looked at PopDose, this article was at the top. Today, obviously it isn't, but where is it? Which subheading? Hell, what was the title again?

    Obviously it's not THAT big a deal if I'm posting this, but it definitely lacks grace.

  • Chris B

    I'll chime in with the crowd asking for a chronology and possibly some kind of keywording?

    The last time I looked at PopDose, this article was at the top. Today, obviously it isn't, but where is it? Which subheading? Hell, what was the title again?

    Obviously it's not THAT big a deal if I'm posting this, but it definitely lacks grace.