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> <channel><title>Comments on: No Concessions: &#8220;Cloverfield&#8221;</title> <atom:link href="http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/</link> <description>your daily dose of pop culture</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 17:23:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: clark</title><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-54222</link> <dc:creator>clark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:02:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/#comment-54222</guid> <description>Right, I see what you&#039;re saying....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it would have payed to have it not be a big monster, or at least one that&#039;s much more vague than this one, because the fact that you at least know it is a Big Monster in itself takes  a lot of the realism away instantly since we know there&#039;s no such thing as big monsters.  I think that the style of the movie being that everything is supposed to be really realistic and breathless and terrifying just doesn&#039;t co-exist successfully with a big monster.  Why not make it a more realistic threat, like a chemical cloud (like Don Delillo&#039;s novel White Noise if you&#039;re familiar) or a terrorist attack of some nature?  I guess I&#039;m just too much of a realist, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On a side note, have you seen John Carpenter&#039;s In The Mouth of Madness?  The big monsters in that film were really scary to me.  They were always sort of obscured by a creepy amount of shadow, and you could never quite put a finger on what they were, but they seemed really familiar at the same time like they came from a nightmare you had at one point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The mosnter in Cloverfield looks like a boss you&#039;d face in Halo or some other such next gen video game.  It looks like a rejected Doom 3 monster or something.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, I see what you&#39;re saying&#8230;.</p><p>I think it would have payed to have it not be a big monster, or at least one that&#39;s much more vague than this one, because the fact that you at least know it is a Big Monster in itself takes  a lot of the realism away instantly since we know there&#39;s no such thing as big monsters.  I think that the style of the movie being that everything is supposed to be really realistic and breathless and terrifying just doesn&#39;t co-exist successfully with a big monster.  Why not make it a more realistic threat, like a chemical cloud (like Don Delillo&#39;s novel White Noise if you&#39;re familiar) or a terrorist attack of some nature?  I guess I&#39;m just too much of a realist, too.</p><p>On a side note, have you seen John Carpenter&#39;s In The Mouth of Madness?  The big monsters in that film were really scary to me.  They were always sort of obscured by a creepy amount of shadow, and you could never quite put a finger on what they were, but they seemed really familiar at the same time like they came from a nightmare you had at one point.</p><p>The mosnter in Cloverfield looks like a boss you&#39;d face in Halo or some other such next gen video game.  It looks like a rejected Doom 3 monster or something.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WHarrisBullzEye</title><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-54221</link> <dc:creator>WHarrisBullzEye</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:27:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/#comment-54221</guid> <description>Yeah, but I didn&#039;t see it as trying to be pretentious, though.  I just saw it as the filmmakers saying, &quot;Okay, if we&#039;re going to do this as the story of Joe Average, then we&#039;ve got to be realistic about the fact that they AREN&#039;T just going to happen upon someone who tells them everything there is to know about the monster.&quot;  Because, really, if you&#039;re running for your life, the odds of you running into Basil Exposition are pretty slim...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but I didn&#39;t see it as trying to be pretentious, though.  I just saw it as the filmmakers saying, &#8220;Okay, if we&#39;re going to do this as the story of Joe Average, then we&#39;ve got to be realistic about the fact that they AREN&#39;T just going to happen upon someone who tells them everything there is to know about the monster.&#8221;  Because, really, if you&#39;re running for your life, the odds of you running into Basil Exposition are pretty slim&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: clark</title><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-41929</link> <dc:creator>clark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:02:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/#comment-41929</guid> <description>Right, I see what you&#039;re saying....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it would have payed to have it not be a big monster, or at least one that&#039;s much more vague than this one, because the fact that you at least know it is a Big Monster in itself takes  a lot of the realism away instantly since we know there&#039;s no such thing as big monsters.  I think that the style of the movie being that everything is supposed to be really realistic and breathless and terrifying just doesn&#039;t co-exist successfully with a big monster.  Why not make it a more realistic threat, like a chemical cloud (like Don Delillo&#039;s novel White Noise if you&#039;re familiar) or a terrorist attack of some nature?  I guess I&#039;m just too much of a realist, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On a side note, have you seen John Carpenter&#039;s In The Mouth of Madness?  The big monsters in that film were really scary to me.  They were always sort of obscured by a creepy amount of shadow, and you could never quite put a finger on what they were, but they seemed really familiar at the same time like they came from a nightmare you had at one point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The mosnter in Cloverfield looks like a boss you&#039;d face in Halo or some other such next gen video game.  It looks like a rejected Doom 3 monster or something.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, I see what you&#39;re saying&#8230;.</p><p>I think it would have payed to have it not be a big monster, or at least one that&#39;s much more vague than this one, because the fact that you at least know it is a Big Monster in itself takes  a lot of the realism away instantly since we know there&#39;s no such thing as big monsters.  I think that the style of the movie being that everything is supposed to be really realistic and breathless and terrifying just doesn&#39;t co-exist successfully with a big monster.  Why not make it a more realistic threat, like a chemical cloud (like Don Delillo&#39;s novel White Noise if you&#39;re familiar) or a terrorist attack of some nature?  I guess I&#39;m just too much of a realist, too.</p><p>On a side note, have you seen John Carpenter&#39;s In The Mouth of Madness?  The big monsters in that film were really scary to me.  They were always sort of obscured by a creepy amount of shadow, and you could never quite put a finger on what they were, but they seemed really familiar at the same time like they came from a nightmare you had at one point.</p><p>The mosnter in Cloverfield looks like a boss you&#39;d face in Halo or some other such next gen video game.  It looks like a rejected Doom 3 monster or something.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: clark</title><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-21535</link> <dc:creator>clark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:02:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/#comment-21535</guid> <description>Right, I see what you&#039;re saying....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it would have payed to have it not be a big monster, or at least one that&#039;s much more vague than this one, because the fact that you at least know it is a Big Monster in itself takes  a lot of the realism away instantly since we know there&#039;s no such thing as big monsters.  I think that the style of the movie being that everything is supposed to be really realistic and breathless and terrifying just doesn&#039;t co-exist successfully with a big monster.  Why not make it a more realistic threat, like a chemical cloud (like Don Delillo&#039;s novel White Noise if you&#039;re familiar) or a terrorist attack of some nature?  I guess I&#039;m just too much of a realist, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On a side note, have you seen John Carpenter&#039;s In The Mouth of Madness?  The big monsters in that film were really scary to me.  They were always sort of obscured by a creepy amount of shadow, and you could never quite put a finger on what they were, but they seemed really familiar at the same time like they came from a nightmare you had at one point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The mosnter in Cloverfield looks like a boss you&#039;d face in Halo or some other such next gen video game.  It looks like a rejected Doom 3 monster or something.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, I see what you&#39;re saying&#8230;.</p><p>I think it would have payed to have it not be a big monster, or at least one that&#39;s much more vague than this one, because the fact that you at least know it is a Big Monster in itself takes  a lot of the realism away instantly since we know there&#39;s no such thing as big monsters.  I think that the style of the movie being that everything is supposed to be really realistic and breathless and terrifying just doesn&#39;t co-exist successfully with a big monster.  Why not make it a more realistic threat, like a chemical cloud (like Don Delillo&#39;s novel White Noise if you&#39;re familiar) or a terrorist attack of some nature?  I guess I&#39;m just too much of a realist, too.</p><p>On a side note, have you seen John Carpenter&#39;s In The Mouth of Madness?  The big monsters in that film were really scary to me.  They were always sort of obscured by a creepy amount of shadow, and you could never quite put a finger on what they were, but they seemed really familiar at the same time like they came from a nightmare you had at one point.</p><p>The mosnter in Cloverfield looks like a boss you&#39;d face in Halo or some other such next gen video game.  It looks like a rejected Doom 3 monster or something.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WHarrisBullzEye</title><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-21534</link> <dc:creator>WHarrisBullzEye</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:27:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/#comment-21534</guid> <description>Yeah, but I didn&#039;t see it as trying to be pretentious, though.  I just saw it as the filmmakers saying, &quot;Okay, if we&#039;re going to do this as the story of Joe Average, then we&#039;ve got to be realistic about the fact that they AREN&#039;T just going to happen upon someone who tells them everything there is to know about the monster.&quot;  Because, really, if you&#039;re running for your life, the odds of you running into Basil Exposition are pretty slim...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but I didn&#39;t see it as trying to be pretentious, though.  I just saw it as the filmmakers saying, &#8220;Okay, if we&#39;re going to do this as the story of Joe Average, then we&#39;ve got to be realistic about the fact that they AREN&#39;T just going to happen upon someone who tells them everything there is to know about the monster.&#8221;  Because, really, if you&#39;re running for your life, the odds of you running into Basil Exposition are pretty slim&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: clark</title><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-21533</link> <dc:creator>clark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:24:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/#comment-21533</guid> <description>I was pretty let down by Cloverfield. I think just being simply aware that there was a lot of hype which was my position too creates a lot of expectation for something great, especially in regards to what the creature is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the creature ain&#039;t scary at all.  For a bit in the movie they were being pretty shy about doing a big reveal and I was encouraged that maybe they&#039;d leave a lot of it to our imaginations, but they do finally show it several times full body in the film.  It&#039;s not laughable, but it&#039;s not even in the same ball park as really scary movie monsters like the Aliens and The Thing (John Carpenter version of course.)  And this is a problem as the movie takes the monster very seriously.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, the cast is about 95% models looking actors, so I kind of wanted them all to get stomped instantly.  At least Blair Witch cast some dumpy looking nobodys for their leads.  That personally gets me behind characters more in a situation like this because they are more realistic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was pretty impressed by most of the CG work.  The monster did look pretty much like it was actually in the home video and news footage you would see.  At different times though the little spiders looked kinda video gamey though.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I feel the movie is also kinda pretentious in its assumption that not telling you anything about the monster&#039;s origin is going to make it that much more intriguing-- this would be a good idea in a movie where the monster ITSELF is intruiging, but this one is pretty far from it in my opinion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s alright dumb fun, though.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pretty let down by Cloverfield. I think just being simply aware that there was a lot of hype which was my position too creates a lot of expectation for something great, especially in regards to what the creature is.</p><p>And the creature ain&#39;t scary at all.  For a bit in the movie they were being pretty shy about doing a big reveal and I was encouraged that maybe they&#39;d leave a lot of it to our imaginations, but they do finally show it several times full body in the film.  It&#39;s not laughable, but it&#39;s not even in the same ball park as really scary movie monsters like the Aliens and The Thing (John Carpenter version of course.)  And this is a problem as the movie takes the monster very seriously.</p><p>Also, the cast is about 95% models looking actors, so I kind of wanted them all to get stomped instantly.  At least Blair Witch cast some dumpy looking nobodys for their leads.  That personally gets me behind characters more in a situation like this because they are more realistic.</p><p>I was pretty impressed by most of the CG work.  The monster did look pretty much like it was actually in the home video and news footage you would see.  At different times though the little spiders looked kinda video gamey though.</p><p>I feel the movie is also kinda pretentious in its assumption that not telling you anything about the monster&#39;s origin is going to make it that much more intriguing&#8211; this would be a good idea in a movie where the monster ITSELF is intruiging, but this one is pretty far from it in my opinion.</p><p>It&#39;s alright dumb fun, though.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WHarrisBullzEye</title><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-21532</link> <dc:creator>WHarrisBullzEye</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:52:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/#comment-21532</guid> <description>Yeah, it&#039;s funny to me that many people have been breathlessly asking me, &quot;What&#039;s the monster?!?&quot; Not that you don&#039;t get to see the monster, but the movie really isn&#039;t ABOUT the monster; it&#039;s about reacting to the effects of the monster&#039;s attack.  And I guess that&#039;s not really how the hype was selling it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#39;s funny to me that many people have been breathlessly asking me, &#8220;What&#39;s the monster?!?&#8221; Not that you don&#39;t get to see the monster, but the movie really isn&#39;t ABOUT the monster; it&#39;s about reacting to the effects of the monster&#39;s attack.  And I guess that&#39;s not really how the hype was selling it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 1Py_Korry1</title><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-21531</link> <dc:creator>1Py_Korry1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:55:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/#comment-21531</guid> <description>I was hoping this film wouldn&#039;t suck, and it seems from your review that it doesn&#039;t.  But if you bought into the hype surrounding it, you might be a bit disappointed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping this film wouldn&#39;t suck, and it seems from your review that it doesn&#39;t.  But if you bought into the hype surrounding it, you might be a bit disappointed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DwDunphy</title><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-21530</link> <dc:creator>DwDunphy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:58:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/#comment-21530</guid> <description>Terrible ending though. If you&#039;re old-school wealthy, your brownstone is safe from anything - even bloodsucking aliens.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrible ending though. If you&#39;re old-school wealthy, your brownstone is safe from anything &#8211; even bloodsucking aliens.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: allen</title><link>http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-21529</link> <dc:creator>allen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:10:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/no-concessions-cloverfield/#comment-21529</guid> <description>I would submit that, while many have castigated it, War of the Worlds was also from the perspective of one of the many faceless people in the crowd. Cruise wasn&#039;t a hero. Except for trying to keep his family alive, WotW was basically a story of the peripheral characters in a monster movie. That was what I loved about it. So, I assume I might enjoy Cloverfield as well. (That and the fact that I met the writer in a bathroom in a Los Angeles courthouse....)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would submit that, while many have castigated it, War of the Worlds was also from the perspective of one of the many faceless people in the crowd. Cruise wasn&#39;t a hero. Except for trying to keep his family alive, WotW was basically a story of the peripheral characters in a monster movie. That was what I loved about it. So, I assume I might enjoy Cloverfield as well. (That and the fact that I met the writer in a bathroom in a Los Angeles courthouse&#8230;.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>

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