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> <channel><title>Comments on: Numberscruncher: The Poorer Americans</title> <atom:link href="http://popdose.com/numberscruncher-the-poorer-americans/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://popdose.com/numberscruncher-the-poorer-americans/</link> <description>your daily dose of pop culture</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 17:23:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/numberscruncher-the-poorer-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-52798</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:35:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=28635#comment-52798</guid> <description>That&#039;s all true, Steve, but let&#039;s not let the American people off the hook here, either. Americans, by large majorities, love the services and benefits they get from government, and demand that those services keep up with inflation and population growth. But, by similarly large majorities, they utterly refuse to be taxed at the level requisite to maintain those services (not to mention the additional ones they keep demanding).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And so, we get simultaneous cries of &quot;Don&#039;t you dare cut my Medicare!&quot; and &quot;Don&#039;t you dare tax me one more penny!&quot; It gets worse at the state level, particularly in states like California with robust/ridiculous initiative mechanisms. Via initiatives, Californians are perpetually adding to the number of services the government provides (and earmarking certain percentages of state revenue for various government functions), yet they continue to elect enough Republicans to consistently reject tax hikes to pay for all these mandates. (The two-thirds legislative majority required for any tax increase was instituted by the Mother Of All Idiotic Initiatives, Prop 13 in 1979.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, Republicans since Reagan have pandered to the low-tax crowd while acquiescing to (or, in the case of Medicare Part B, leading) spending increases. Meanwhile, Democrats since FDR have pandered to the people&#039;s instinct that government should do more (or, at least, continue to function), but acquiesce to the anti-tax anti-realists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Add a couple wars and a couple bailouts to that scenario, and you arrive where we are now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s all true, Steve, but let&#39;s not let the American people off the hook here, either. Americans, by large majorities, love the services and benefits they get from government, and demand that those services keep up with inflation and population growth. But, by similarly large majorities, they utterly refuse to be taxed at the level requisite to maintain those services (not to mention the additional ones they keep demanding).</p><p>And so, we get simultaneous cries of &#8220;Don&#39;t you dare cut my Medicare!&#8221; and &#8220;Don&#39;t you dare tax me one more penny!&#8221; It gets worse at the state level, particularly in states like California with robust/ridiculous initiative mechanisms. Via initiatives, Californians are perpetually adding to the number of services the government provides (and earmarking certain percentages of state revenue for various government functions), yet they continue to elect enough Republicans to consistently reject tax hikes to pay for all these mandates. (The two-thirds legislative majority required for any tax increase was instituted by the Mother Of All Idiotic Initiatives, Prop 13 in 1979.)</p><p>So, Republicans since Reagan have pandered to the low-tax crowd while acquiescing to (or, in the case of Medicare Part B, leading) spending increases. Meanwhile, Democrats since FDR have pandered to the people&#39;s instinct that government should do more (or, at least, continue to function), but acquiesce to the anti-tax anti-realists.</p><p>Add a couple wars and a couple bailouts to that scenario, and you arrive where we are now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/numberscruncher-the-poorer-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-41772</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:35:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=28635#comment-41772</guid> <description>That&#039;s all true, Steve, but let&#039;s not let the American people off the hook here, either. Americans, by large majorities, love the services and benefits they get from government, and demand that those services keep up with inflation and population growth. But, by similarly large majorities, they utterly refuse to be taxed at the level requisite to maintain those services (not to mention the additional ones they keep demanding).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And so, we get simultaneous cries of &quot;Don&#039;t you dare cut my Medicare!&quot; and &quot;Don&#039;t you dare tax me one more penny!&quot; It gets worse at the state level, particularly in states like California with robust/ridiculous initiative mechanisms. Via initiatives, Californians are perpetually adding to the number of services the government provides (and earmarking certain percentages of state revenue for various government functions), yet they continue to elect enough Republicans to consistently reject tax hikes to pay for all these mandates. (The two-thirds legislative majority required for any tax increase was instituted by the Mother Of All Idiotic Initiatives, Prop 13 in 1979.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, Republicans since Reagan have pandered to the low-tax crowd while acquiescing to (or, in the case of Medicare Part B, leading) spending increases. Meanwhile, Democrats since FDR have pandered to the people&#039;s instinct that government should do more (or, at least, continue to function), but acquiesce to the anti-tax anti-realists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Add a couple wars and a couple bailouts to that scenario, and you arrive where we are now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s all true, Steve, but let&#39;s not let the American people off the hook here, either. Americans, by large majorities, love the services and benefits they get from government, and demand that those services keep up with inflation and population growth. But, by similarly large majorities, they utterly refuse to be taxed at the level requisite to maintain those services (not to mention the additional ones they keep demanding).</p><p>And so, we get simultaneous cries of &#8220;Don&#39;t you dare cut my Medicare!&#8221; and &#8220;Don&#39;t you dare tax me one more penny!&#8221; It gets worse at the state level, particularly in states like California with robust/ridiculous initiative mechanisms. Via initiatives, Californians are perpetually adding to the number of services the government provides (and earmarking certain percentages of state revenue for various government functions), yet they continue to elect enough Republicans to consistently reject tax hikes to pay for all these mandates. (The two-thirds legislative majority required for any tax increase was instituted by the Mother Of All Idiotic Initiatives, Prop 13 in 1979.)</p><p>So, Republicans since Reagan have pandered to the low-tax crowd while acquiescing to (or, in the case of Medicare Part B, leading) spending increases. Meanwhile, Democrats since FDR have pandered to the people&#39;s instinct that government should do more (or, at least, continue to function), but acquiesce to the anti-tax anti-realists.</p><p>Add a couple wars and a couple bailouts to that scenario, and you arrive where we are now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/numberscruncher-the-poorer-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-36755</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:35:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=28635#comment-36755</guid> <description>That&#039;s all true, Steve, but let&#039;s not let the American people off the hook here, either. Americans, by large majorities, love the services and benefits they get from government, and demand that those services keep up with inflation and population growth. But, by similarly large majorities, they utterly refuse to be taxed at the level requisite to maintain those services (not to mention the additional ones they keep demanding).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And so, we get simultaneous cries of &quot;Don&#039;t you dare cut my Medicare!&quot; and &quot;Don&#039;t you dare tax me one more penny!&quot; It gets worse at the state level, particularly in states like California with robust/ridiculous initiative mechanisms. Via initiatives, Californians are perpetually adding to the number of services the government provides (and earmarking certain percentages of state revenue for various government functions), yet they continue to elect enough Republicans to consistently reject tax hikes to pay for all these mandates. (The two-thirds legislative majority required for any tax increase was instituted by the Mother Of All Idiotic Initiatives, Prop 13 in 1979.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, Republicans since Reagan have pandered to the low-tax crowd while acquiescing to (or, in the case of Medicare Part B, leading) spending increases. Meanwhile, Democrats since FDR have pandered to the people&#039;s instinct that government should do more (or, at least, continue to function), but acquiesce to the anti-tax anti-realists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Add a couple wars and a couple bailouts to that scenario, and you arrive where we are now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s all true, Steve, but let&#39;s not let the American people off the hook here, either. Americans, by large majorities, love the services and benefits they get from government, and demand that those services keep up with inflation and population growth. But, by similarly large majorities, they utterly refuse to be taxed at the level requisite to maintain those services (not to mention the additional ones they keep demanding).</p><p>And so, we get simultaneous cries of &#8220;Don&#39;t you dare cut my Medicare!&#8221; and &#8220;Don&#39;t you dare tax me one more penny!&#8221; It gets worse at the state level, particularly in states like California with robust/ridiculous initiative mechanisms. Via initiatives, Californians are perpetually adding to the number of services the government provides (and earmarking certain percentages of state revenue for various government functions), yet they continue to elect enough Republicans to consistently reject tax hikes to pay for all these mandates. (The two-thirds legislative majority required for any tax increase was instituted by the Mother Of All Idiotic Initiatives, Prop 13 in 1979.)</p><p>So, Republicans since Reagan have pandered to the low-tax crowd while acquiescing to (or, in the case of Medicare Part B, leading) spending increases. Meanwhile, Democrats since FDR have pandered to the people&#39;s instinct that government should do more (or, at least, continue to function), but acquiesce to the anti-tax anti-realists.</p><p>Add a couple wars and a couple bailouts to that scenario, and you arrive where we are now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: steve</title><link>http://popdose.com/numberscruncher-the-poorer-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-36677</link> <dc:creator>steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:46:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=28635#comment-36677</guid> <description>oh, no argument from me.  Bush is just as guilty as Obama.  Or, to be more accurate, the Dems and Repubs are both guilty.  The Republicans preach fiscal responsibility until they have full control and show their true colors.  And the Dems traditionally don&#039;t even preach fiscal responsibility per se, they&#039;re at least partially honest that they love to tax and spend, except they don&#039;t get the &quot;you can spend more than you tax&quot; part of that.  Both are guilty</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, no argument from me.  Bush is just as guilty as Obama.  Or, to be more accurate, the Dems and Repubs are both guilty.  The Republicans preach fiscal responsibility until they have full control and show their true colors.  And the Dems traditionally don&#39;t even preach fiscal responsibility per se, they&#39;re at least partially honest that they love to tax and spend, except they don&#39;t get the &#8220;you can spend more than you tax&#8221; part of that.  Both are guilty</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: annielogue</title><link>http://popdose.com/numberscruncher-the-poorer-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-36675</link> <dc:creator>annielogue</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=28635#comment-36675</guid> <description>Steve,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was thinking more from the perspective of the luxury retailer. Before recessions, they say things like &quot;our customers will always have money&quot;, when really, a lot of their customers are pretending they have money. I&#039;m sorry I didn&#039;t make that clearer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But you cannot blame Obama for the deficit unless you are willing to blame Bush, too. That&#039;s my ground rule. It really pisses me off that so many people were hunky-dory about the deficit until Obama took office.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p><p>I was thinking more from the perspective of the luxury retailer. Before recessions, they say things like &#8220;our customers will always have money&#8221;, when really, a lot of their customers are pretending they have money. I&#39;m sorry I didn&#39;t make that clearer.</p><p>But you cannot blame Obama for the deficit unless you are willing to blame Bush, too. That&#39;s my ground rule. It really pisses me off that so many people were hunky-dory about the deficit until Obama took office.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: steve</title><link>http://popdose.com/numberscruncher-the-poorer-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-36668</link> <dc:creator>steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:56:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=28635#comment-36668</guid> <description>&quot;We are saddled with a deficit from the tax cuts and spending on two wars, made worse by a stimulus package needed to bring us out of a nasty recession.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The stimulus pakage(s) are not bringing us out of this as more jobs continue to be lost, and the new administration is piling the deficit on at record levels.  The #&#039;s are staggering and beyond comprehension.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And to say &quot;Some high-end customers never were rich; they were spending money they did not have, possibly borrowed against their houses.&quot;  C&#039;mon, let&#039;s be honest.  It isn&#039;t only &#039;high-end&#039; people in America who are spending more than they can afford.  Most of the middle class does as well.  My neighborhood is still full of people who make 50 or 60k a year and who drive a 45k SUV.  That&#039;s idiocy (on multiple levels), and they&#039;re in interminable debt.  But they want everything, and they want it now.  They&#039;re Americans and they need to keep up....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are saddled with a deficit from the tax cuts and spending on two wars, made worse by a stimulus package needed to bring us out of a nasty recession.&#8221;</p><p>The stimulus pakage(s) are not bringing us out of this as more jobs continue to be lost, and the new administration is piling the deficit on at record levels.  The #&#39;s are staggering and beyond comprehension.</p><p>And to say &#8220;Some high-end customers never were rich; they were spending money they did not have, possibly borrowed against their houses.&#8221;  C&#39;mon, let&#39;s be honest.  It isn&#39;t only &#39;high-end&#39; people in America who are spending more than they can afford.  Most of the middle class does as well.  My neighborhood is still full of people who make 50 or 60k a year and who drive a 45k SUV.  That&#39;s idiocy (on multiple levels), and they&#39;re in interminable debt.  But they want everything, and they want it now.  They&#39;re Americans and they need to keep up&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>

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