Of Teabags and Taxes

Ann Logue April 21, 2009 42

a0708954-1a61-4122-ba6d-4299270ba27b1On Tax Day, I went to the Chicago Loop post office – the one with the Calder where Ferris Bueller twists and shouts – to mail in my forms. An accountant does them, but he won’t hook his computer to the Internet because of privacy concerns, so they can’t be filed electronically. I had to fight my way through the Chicago Tea Party, full of people who would be mortified if they knew what teabagging was.

The postal service receives very little taxpayer money. In fiscal year 2008, it received $102.1 million in taxpayer funds, mostly reimbursement for free mail services provided to blind people, folks in military service, and U.S. voters overseas. It received $74.2 billion from other postal customers. What the postal service does have is a congressional monopoly on mail services. Legally, no one but the postal service can use your mail box. (If you’ve ever done any political canvassing, you were probably warned up and down not to put any leaflets in mailboxes.)

Of course, I was annoyed about this monopoly when I stood in line, because it would have been much easier to use FedEx. I have an account with them – a cinch to set up – and all I’d have to do would be print out the form from my very own computer, then drop it off at any of the fifty million FedEx boxes in the Loop. There seem to be more of them than mail boxes, as many mail boxes were removed because of fears of the Unabomber and terrorism and the like. However, you can’t FedEx tax forms because of the post office’s monopoly on post office boxes.

I’m not entirely sure what the teabaggers were protesting about, but there are a lot of problems with taxes. I’m not opposed to paying taxes, because there are things I want that only the government can provide, like national defense, an interstate highway system, and universal education. But why are tax forms so complicated? I have an MBA from the University of Chicago with concentrations in finance and accounting, but I pay someone else to do my taxes.

If you buy your own health insurance, you don’t get a tax deduction for it, unless you are self-employed, and then you do. If you have medical expenses, you can only deduct them if they exceed 7.5% of your adjusted gross income, unless your employer offers a flexible spending account or you have a medical savings account. You can’t deduct certain types of securities trading losses unless you qualify as a trader for IRS purposes, in which case you can. Does any of this make any sense at all?

However, simplified taxes are a long way off. Tax preparation is a huge industry. target=new>Intuit, the maker of TurboTax, sells about a billion dollars worth of tax software a year. H& R Block generates about $3 billion in revenues from tax services. Throw in all the tax preparation books sold, the independent accountants, the lawyers who represent people in tax court, and the extra postage paid by all of us standing in line at the post office mailing in our tax forms, and you have a hefty business.

Here’s the other problem: no matter how you change the tax system, someone is going to be a loser, and the loser will complain – unless you cut taxes and increase spending, and then everyone is happy until reality sets in. Taxes have to go up; it’s much more responsible to tax and spend than to cut taxes and spend. (No matter what many teabag types fervently believe, there is no GOP money machine turns decreased revenue into increased revenue.)

We have a system that everyone hates, but we have no consensus on how to fix it. Even my accountant complains; he loves the revenue he gets from preparing taxes, but he believes that government wastes every dime it gets. I believe government wastes only half of every dime it gets (more for Cook County, less for Social Security), but I think we’re a long way from any real change other than paying more money. Good think I like my accountant.

  • http://thevitaminkid.blogspot.com autodidact

    I consider calling Tea Party protesters “teabaggers” equivalent to calling black people n*****s. But go ahead, have your fun. If you're not sure what the protesters were protesting, I'll give you the Cliff's Notes version:

    1. They don't like bailouts for US banksters and foreign banks, hedge funds, and the finance industry in general.

    2. They see the already-massive debt burden on current and future generations being increased to gargantuan proportions. This can only be retired through taxes or inflation (which is a regressive stealth tax). It is insanity. It is like eating the seed corn. This new debt soaks up investment capital, which is the seed corn of future growth. And future taxes or inflation will eat away at the spending power of citizens. They oppose this insanity.

    3. Related to point 2, they think most of the stimulus spending is unproductive, a waste of tax money.

    When 7,000 people show up to protest taxes and government spending in a town like Madison, Wisconsin (!), you know there is something serious afoot. No doubt the current government will continue to press their luck until voter outrage overpowers it at the ballot box.

    Just an amusing anecdote: I did not attend the Tea Party gathering here in Des Moines, but I saw some of the photos on Flickr. One poster made me laugh out loud. It was a drawing of a tombstone with the inscription, “LIBERTY, R.I.P. 1776-2009.” Underneath were the words, “Died of consumption.” ;-)

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    “I consider calling Tea Party protesters “teabaggers” equivalent to calling black people n*****s.”

    Oh my God.

  • Annie Logue

    Isn't it okay because they call themselves “teabaggers”?

  • JonCummings

    I believe the problem with this, the most ridiculous statement I've ever read in my entire life, is that the teabaggers were calling themselves teabaggers before anybody else made fun of them for calling themselves teabaggers.

    As for the substance–can there BE substance after such a ludicrous statement?–I'm still waiting for one single right-winger to tell us what we're going to do with our money (as paycheck-earners, as mortgage-holders, etc., etc.) after we don't bail out the banks and the entire system goes kaput.

    When 7,000 people show up to a Tea Party in Madison, Wisconsin, the only thing you've proven is that there are 7,000 diehard Republicans/Fox News viewers remaining in a town of 223,000.

  • mojo

    It's funny. When Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter calls our president a muslim or a terrorist, that's serious political commentary to them. Name-calling is useful!

    When Anderson Cooper fires back with “teabagger,” according to that same clique, it proves he is gay because it takes one to know one. Name-calling is bad!

    Pot, meet kettle.

  • David_E

    Related to points 1, 2 and 3: All this was started under the previous administration. Antiquis temporibus. Don't remember much outrage then.

  • http://jackfear.blogspot.com Jack Feerick

    …but don't dare call it “black,” because that would be OFFENSIVE!!one!

  • JonCummings

    Now, now, David…conservatives, no matter how many times their votes helped get Bush “elected,” have thoroughly disowned him, so their hands are clean. And now they're a horribly, horribly oppressed minority, apparently, under the new “fascist” regime.

    Remember how we were warned for eight years–through the 2000 vote suppression and Supreme Court anointing, the Iraq lies & unprovoked invasion, the torture, the wiretapping, the propaganda “news reports,” Alberto Gonzales, etc., etc., etc.–that we would be completely over the line to suggest the Bush administration was in any way “fascist”? Then Obama gets into office less than 100 days, and — based on bailout policies that began under a GOP administration, stimulus spending that is backed by every intelligent economist from every point on the political spectrum, and new tax policies that raise the rate on top earners from 35% to 39% (horrors!!!!) — Hannity, Glenn Beck and their teabagging minions are already describing Obama as Mussolini incarnate!

    The mind baggles. (I mean “boggles.” Sorry.)

  • mojo

    And don't call it “Dick Armey Suckered Me into Protesting on Behalf of Rich People Day, either.”

  • E

    Actually, since my local party in western IA seems to have been hijacked by a far-right no-chance gubernatorial candidate to rant and rave about marriage equality, I think “teabaggers” would be EXTRA appropriate here.

  • ann

    Could you please send a link to a YouTube video of Ms. Coulter or Mr. Hannity calling the president a terrorist or a muslim? Thanks, I'll be waiting. Oh yeah, you won't be able to find one.

  • JonCummings

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxWa5wTql6M

    In this clip Coulter says, “Anyone named B. Hussein Obama should avoid using 'hijack' and 'religion' in the same sentence.” The search took approximately 3.5 seconds.

    We'll accept your apology anytime. And don't pretend to be a literalist. We're all smart enough to know what's going on here.

  • ann

    Again, find me where she called him a terrorist, I beg you.

    Apologize. Ha, you're cute.

  • ann

    And the funny thing is you'll say “literalist”. Well the supposed “news people” on MSNBC did ACTUALLY make hundreds of teabag jokes about the events – including listing towns in America that have names that have sexual overtones. This is what you support – would you let your kids watch? Yes, you probably would I imagine.

    Fox has been right wing and deplorable for years. MSNBC used to be kind of legit. They've jumped the shark so far it's actually sickening ad beyond comical. Now the ONLY cable news is CNN, what a shame.

  • JonCummings

    So you're an angry, militant-centrist, CNN-only Ann Coulter apologist?

    Honestly, ann, it's only in fantasyland/Republicanland that a right-wing pundit can spew a sentence like the above quote and then have apologists insist that it's OK because she didn't “call him a terrorist.” Because the real-world result of her words is that the guy who posted the YouTube clip celebrating her wrote this to describe it: “Straight out of the Al-Qaeda training manual: Muslim/Atheist/Christian and Democrat presidential hopeful, B. Hussein Obama, poses here as a Christian as he proselytizes to one group of Christians…”

  • ann

    Man, you like to put words in peoples mouths – whether they be on TV or here.

    Where did I say it was “ok” that she said that? Can you show me, because there's only a few comments here from me and I'm missin' it.

    You need to stop doing that, it's real bad form.

  • JonCummings

    Short of enrolling us in a Logic 101 seminar, I won't attempt to make the linkages for you from your first comment to your last one. Instead I'll just apologize for my “bad form,” as you call it, and leave it at that.

  • mojo

    And Ann Coulter would never spell out that Obama is a dime-store Hitler, either–when Colmes serves up all the softballs for even the thickest-headed conservative to connect the dots:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/c

    And I would never spell out what I mean if someone were to catch me calling her an itch-bay.

    This person isn't saying Obama's a Muslim, but they're calling him a liar at the least because he professes Christian faith…for my money and most everyone else's, this sign's screaming “Muslim”:
    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/gallery/2009/0

    (for the record, even Bush said and knew that Muslims in general are good people. Just like Tim McVeigh made a bad name for midwestern conservatives, a few bad apples have not represented the Muslim faith well..but please let's stop throwing out the baby with the bath water and using the term as a slur)

    Why didn't anyone portray Bush as Urkel? He had the same Ivy League education and his economic policies took us from Internet boom and high-flying Clintonomics to Madoff and AIG…he looked just as much the buffoon in office:
    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/gallery/2009/0

    “Bro” usually refers to a white person, right? Oh wait. Here, I do believe it's code for “not white,” and “our parents didn't have the stones to wear this shirt”:
    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/gallery/2009/0

    Whatchu Talkin' about, Willis? That doesn't sound like this person is thinking Obama had the same Ivy League education as Bush:
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mZiYzPuKEME/Secsz-o4X

    These debate tactics–propagated by the right wing–remind me of the fifth grade playground incident where one person or another ends up getting his glasses smashed.

    It's like me saying, “I've never heard Sean Hannity deny he has a small penis.” I didn't spell anything out. But you don't need an Ivy League degree to get what I am thinking. And most of us don't need Dick Armey to explain it.

  • ann

    You guys are HILARIOUS! Still can't find one, and don't say I didn't warn you – they're not out there. So before you tell us exactly what people said, you should check to see if they indeed said it – which they didn't.

    You guys could get “journalist” jobs with MSNBC or FOX. You dabble in the same sewers.

  • ann

    Thx for the apology.

  • JonCummings

    (Trying to ignore the irony…)

  • Jerry deMuus

    Jeez, Ann. You're a twat.

    (That's not literal. If I were being literal, I'd say you HAVE a twat, assuming that you're a woman. But I am using the word “twat” as a metaphor, for, you know, twattiness.)

    Anyhow–Ann = twat.

  • Jerry deMuus

    Once more: twat.

  • MichaelFortes

    I prefer to simply call them “babies.”

  • Annie Logue

    You teabaggaz are cracking me up. I had absolutely no idea that I would uncover yet another area infiltrated by the PC police.

    At the rally I saw, by the way, the protesters had a laundry list of issues, including wanting to see Barack Obama's birth certificate. Hence, my confusion about what, really, was being protested.

    Finally, we haven't had a budget surplus since 2000. I know that most Americans liked that, which is why they voted for Al Gore. I'd argue that having an unelected person appointed to the presidency was egregious “taxation without representation.” But I'm guessing that the teabaggaz have no problem with spending as long as it comes with tax cuts?

  • Annie Logue

    Oh, and I refuse to believe that Anderson Cooper is gay. Because he is too darn fine to be gay.

    Now, if a middle-aged soccer mom with an LLBean coat, a Junior League membership, and a crush on Anderson Cooper (uh, that would be me) knows what “teabagging” is, I'm shocked that no one in the Tea Party Movement knew. Are the teabaggaz really that removed from everyday life.

    Uh, I better quit now before Jeff decides that I'm too square to blog. Do the kids these days still say “square”?

  • Old_Davy

    The great thing about America is that people have the right to protest against their government. Too bad they can't agree on what they are protesting.

    I live in the capital city of a Midwestern state, population of about 35 to 40 thousand people. There were approximately 200 people who turned up on the Capitol steps at our Tea Party. According to the newspaper, the speaker announced that they were not protesting against Obama, but rather the general spending policies of the government. However, the picture in the article prominently displayed a sign that read “233 years to build Liberty, 3 months to destroy it”. If that's not a direct hit towards Obama, then I don't know what is. The speaker acknowledged that these spending policies did indeed start under the Bush administration, but yet the only politicians that showed up for the rally were Republican representatives.

    This so called grass roots revolution, is this the brainchild of Rush or some other talk radio dunderhead? I wouldn't know because I refuse to listen to such bile because it makes my blood pressure skyrocket.

    I must agree on the point that Congress does waste a ton of money in efforts to get themselves re-elected by funding pork projects. But expecting Congress to reform itself is kind of like putting an alcoholic in a bar and telling him he can only drink the mixers. In this way, the protests are good, maybe our lawmakers will recognize that the public is indeed upset about excessive spending. But please don't try to disguise the hatred and prejudice these protesters are feeling by saying they are suddenly outraged by the same policies that we've been experiencing since Reagan took the oath of office. We have a black President. Deal with it.

  • David_E

    Ann, you're obviously intelligent, though willfully obtuse. You know as well as anyone here that the fine folks you're defending have made all sorts of innuendoes and slurs, but have managed to dance around the accusation outright.

    And you know why? Because they're scared to. They don't have the balls. They want to leave that window of deniability open a tiny crack, so they have somewhere to scuttle off to when they're called on their crap by someone with real authority.

    Prove me wrong.

  • JonCummings

    The problem is that, with Republicans having developed their own alternate reality (devoid of nuisances such as “facts” and “logic”), there is no “authority” who can call them on it. That's exactly what Ann has proven here, by holding her breath til she's blue in the face and insisting that because Coulter never looked her in the eye and literally said “Obama's a terrorist,” that's not exactly the message she was imparting.

    The vile filth that spewed from attendees at McCain/Palin rallies, and last week from the teabaggers, is a direct result of the garbage peddled on the air by Coulter, Hannity, Beck and the rest of the Fox BS brigade. And because it has no basis in anything except desperation and blind hatred for anyone who disagrees with their point of view–or anyone different from them–it's profoundly dangerous.

  • E

    No, you're doing it wrong.

    I think you're supposed to append the prefix “some people say”.

  • http://www.lexalexander.net Lex

    Hey, here in North Carolina we're PROUD of the towns of Welcome, Advance and Climax. We just wonder why there's no town named Postcoital Cigarette.

  • Arend Anton

    American taxpayers generally pay fewer taxes than the citizens of a lot of other industrialized nations. The strangest part about the tea party protests to me is that their namesake was a reaction to “taxation without representation.” We DO have representation now.

    The idea that we shouldn't pay taxes to provide for basic societal needs is essentially like saying, “I'm glad we're free of tyranny, now let's not accept any of the responsibilities that come from freedom.” This nation would fall apart without the income generated from taxes, especially when you consider how much of our government is subsidized by other nations already.

    Opposing the stimulus package is silly because, for the first time in ages, we are actually using existing tax money for the things that need money. Why is it that conservatives are okay with paying taxes to fund two wars, but not for healing a broken economy?

  • Arend Anton

    That's just them appropriating a negative word and making it a symbol of empowerment. You're just not allowed to use it, Annie.

  • JonCummings

    I hope that means we can look forward to years of Fox News programs titled “Teabaggaz 4 Life” and such … followed by the day when Glenn Beck comes on the air and announces, a la Richard Pryor after his Africa trip, “I will never call crazed right-wingers — i.e., my natural constituency — 'teabaggers' again.”

  • Arend Anton

    Throw in a few tears and I think that's a likely scenario.

  • Arend Anton

    That's just them appropriating a negative word and making it a symbol of empowerment. You're just not allowed to use it, Annie.

  • JonCummings

    I hope that means we can look forward to years of Fox News programs titled “Teabaggaz 4 Life” and such … followed by the day when Glenn Beck comes on the air and announces, a la Richard Pryor after his Africa trip, “I will never call crazed right-wingers — i.e., my natural constituency — 'teabaggers' again.”

  • Arend Anton

    Throw in a few tears and I think that's a likely scenario.

  • Arend Anton

    American taxpayers generally pay fewer taxes than the citizens of a lot of other industrialized nations. The strangest part about the tea party protests to me is that their namesake was a reaction to “taxation without representation.” We DO have representation now.

    The idea that we shouldn't pay taxes to provide for basic societal needs is essentially like saying, “I'm glad we're free of tyranny, now let's not accept any of the responsibilities that come from freedom.” This nation would fall apart without the income generated from taxes, especially when you consider how much of our government is subsidized by other nations already.

    Opposing the stimulus package is silly because, for the first time in ages, we are actually using existing tax money for the things that need money. Why is it that conservatives are okay with paying taxes to fund two wars, but not for healing a broken economy?

  • Arend Anton

    That's just them appropriating a negative word and making it a symbol of empowerment. You're just not allowed to use it, Annie.

  • JonCummings

    I hope that means we can look forward to years of Fox News programs titled “Teabaggaz 4 Life” and such … followed by the day when Glenn Beck comes on the air and announces, a la Richard Pryor after his Africa trip, “I will never call crazed right-wingers — i.e., my natural constituency — 'teabaggers' again.”

  • Arend Anton

    Throw in a few tears and I think that's a likely scenario.