Political Culture: Ayn Rand’s Shangri-La of Self-Interest

Jon Cummings January 7, 2010 26

I tried. I tried so hard. You’ve gotta believe me when I tell you how I tried and tried to finish Ayn Rand’s oversize chronicle of obsessive-compulsive capitalism, Atlas Shrugged, over the holidays so that I could wrap up this series today. Alas, somewhere in the early-late-middle of John Galt’s 32,000-word disquisition on “Men of the Mind,” “Mystics of Muscle,” and other assorted (and alliterative) figments of Rand’s imagination, I fell into a long yet fitful sleep. And after numerous horrifying dreams about Welfare Queens with entitlement complexes … not to mention one very lovely vision of a nude Dagny Taggart presenting me with a pristine copy of the novel’s Cliff’s Notes … I awoke to discover I had slept six days, it was 2010, and somehow our republican (though hardly Republican) form of government had survived into the New Year.

Relieved at the knowledge that the teabaggers had it all wrong, and that President Obama’s first calendar year in office hadn’t concluded with the declaration of a “People’s State,” I decided to throttle back my attempt to finish Atlas Shrugged in time for this column. Instead, my wife and I spent the long weekend dreaming up ridiculous reasons to call each other “moocher” and “looter,” and even that most powerful of Rand-ian insults, “loocher.” That last one, in fact, may yet come to replace “Socialist Schmoopy” as our go-to term of mutual endearment.

I’m sure some of you are quite pained to learn that my heretofore sincere quest to devour Rand’s magnum opus has, temporarily at least, devolved into openly mocking pillow talk with the missus. But don’t despair! Thanks to that magical Internet phenomenon known as the “pingback,” I learned this week that one of our nation’s most respected investigative reporters, the extravagantly mustachioed John Stossel, has picked up this hot potato and run with it — preparing an hourlong program on Atlas Shrugged and Rand’s Objectivist philosophy, to be broadcast this very evening at 8 p.m. EST on the Fox Business Network!

I know, I know … but try to contain your excitement. First of all, you’ll have to find FBN, which I had never done until I fired up the TiVo for this purpose. I can tell you that it’s on DirecTV channel 359 (right next to Fox News – thanks for the synergy, Rupert!), and that in New York it’s on channel 43. Second of all, you’ll have to commit to steering your remote toward the channel, which very few people actually do – FBN’s most recent daily rating is about 21,000 souls, less than a tenth of CNBC’s daily viewers and too small a number for Nielsen to measure verifiably. And then you’ll have to spend an hour, you know, looking at John Stossel, a prospect that singlehandedly kept me away from 20/20 for nigh on 30 years.

But I digress. (Hey, I’m reading an 1,168-page novel that really only required about 400. So give me a break!) Without any further ado, here’s a typically jaundiced summary of the first few chapters of Atlas Shrugged‘s Part III (i.e., pages 700-1,000 in my hardback edition):

We last saw our put-upon heroine, the railroad magnate Dagny, plunging her single-engine plane toward a crash-landing on the grassy floor of a valley that had appeared magically in the craggy midst of the Rocky Mountains. (Apparently a key qualification for earning Rand’s respect is the ability to hop nonchalantly into a cockpit and pilot a plane.) Knocked unconscious by the landing, she awakens to see the face of the man whose plane (see?) she had been chasing – none other than John Galt himself. It turns out that Dagny has become the first uninvited interloper to visit “Galt’s Gulch,” a sort of Big-Business Brigadoon to which all of the novel’s vanished industrialists have fled. She spends a month in the valley, learning why Galt’s philosophy of anti-altruism is right for everyone from bankers and copper tycoons to composers and actresses – none of whom seem to need any assistance to ply their trades there, not from tellers or miners or musicians or playwrights. She grows quite enamored of the valley and its raison d’être – and she falls (chastely) in love with Galt, which is a pity for her lover Hank Rearden, who has spent the entire month searching for her in his plane (ahem!) and comes tantalizingly close to crashing the valley himself. Yet even as her hosts convince her that they had to drop out of society, to escape the depraved communitarians who hated them for their success – and even as they beseech her to remain Where the Reviled Things Are (“We’ll Wall Street you up, we love you so!”) – Dagny says no, and travels back in and out of days, and almost over a year …

And back into the morning of her very own office, where her evil brother has left her railroad, and it is still … crumbling, pretty much like the rest of the country. The increasingly totalitarian government, when it’s not developing crazy new weapons to intimidate dissenters, is imposing ever tighter restrictions on commerce and making terrible economic decisions based on cronyism, regionalism and misplaced altruism. Dagny is enlisted to defend the government programs she despises – under the threat of having her affair with Rearden revealed – so she goes on a popular radio show and valiantly reveals it herself, and rails against the nation’s leaders until someone pulls the plug. She then proceeds to pull the plug on her relationship with Hank, even as he declares his love and admits that the “contempt” he’d earlier professed to feel for her (read all about it here, if you’ve forgotten) had been a product of man’s self-destructive morality rather than his own true feelings. (Later, Dagny discovers that Galt has been performing yeoman’s labor for her railroad in order to keep an eye on her … which leads to Dagny and Galt making sexytime in an underground train tunnel. Hot!)

On the flipside of love, Dagny’s new sister-in-law, the onetime guttersnipe-turned-enlightened individualist Cherryl, has come to realize the evil behind her husband Jim’s “rescue” of her. It seems that Jim, in true (for Rand) altruistic fashion, loves her only for her flaws and her needs, not for her virtues – a realization that drives Cherryl to commiserate with her sworn enemy, the suddenly sympathetic Dagny. Afterward, Cherryl arrives home to find Jim in flagrante delicto with … Hank Rearden’s awful wife Lillian! Gross! Unable to decide whether she’s more embarrassed or repulsed – and apparently unable to fly a plane to Galt’s Gulch — Cherryl flings herself into the East River. Hank’s struggles continue, too, culminating in labor strife at his steel mill that turns violent when government-hired goons charge the gates. The goons take the life of Hank’s protégé, and after putting down the rebellion (with help from the suddenly Zorro-like Francisco) Hank realizes it’s time to fly the coop and head for Galt’s Gulch.

I’m going to hold off on much of my analysis until next week (I’d hate to step on Stossel’s ’stache…), but in my other hat as a music junkie I was fascinated by Dagny’s interaction with the composer (and Galt’s Gulch resident) Richard Halley, whose never-performed-publicly Fifth Concerto she has mysteriously been hearing throughout the novel. Rand’s descriptions of that musical theme – full of words like “violence” and “triumph” and “struggle” and “mathematical precision,” a work Halley himself calls his “Concerto of Deliverance” – make the piece sound to me like a thudding, Germanic monstrosity, like the music the Nazis kept when they banned the “degenerate” music of Jewish and modernist composers like Mahler, Mendelssohn, Weill, Hindemith and Schoenberg. (It should surprise no one that an Objectivist composer named John Mills-Cockel has recently recorded his own “Concerto of Deliverance” in tribute. You may listen to snippets here, if you dare.) Halley, it turns out, had spent years struggling in obscurity in the outside world before his opera Phaethon, which had been booed off the stage upon its debut, received a rapturous response when revived two decades later. It was that moment, he tells Dagny, when he realized that the people who suddenly loved his music didn’t love it for the right reasons, and therefore weren’t worthy of hearing it. “There’s only one passion in most artists more violent than their desire for admiration: their fear of identifying the nature of such admiration as they do receive,” he says. Really? In my recollection, an artist’s two biggest fears are 1) starvation, and 2) never being able to give up the day job. It’s a good thing Halley had the Gulch to escape to – where he can perform his works a couple of times a year for audiences of idle tycoons, when he’s not giving piano lessons to the never-seen Rand Youth. I may be reading too much into this, but Halley’s entire story (like that of Kay Ludlow, the beautiful actress who ditched Hollywood because the roles offered her were “nothing but symbols of depravity”) smacks of sour grapes over Rand’s own inability to make a name for herself as a screenwriter during the pre-war years.

Speaking of the movies, this holiday season I encountered a couple of flicks that made me wonder anew about the efficacy, and the morality, of Rand’s philosophies. One was brand new, the other several years old. The latter was the documentary Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room, which explicitly portrays the company’s former CEO Jeffrey Skilling as the ultimate Rand-ian capitalist juggernaut – ruthlessly ambitious, wedded to deregulation, obsessed with profit and “production” at the expense of every other concern. These traits led him and his company not to honest and ethical success, but to a house of cards built on accounting fraud and manipulation of the stock market, not to mention the choice to enhance Enron’s profits by convincing the state of California to deregulate its power industry and then denying the state the very electricity the company was supposed to be providing, in the name of jacking up rates for consumers. Of course, Objectivists have disavowed Skilling ever since, insisting that he never truly reflected their values, but I figure if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck … preaches Social Darwinism like a duck…

The other film I saw with Objectivist implications is, ironically, George Clooney’s most recent Oscar catnip, Up in the Air – and there’s a Spoiler in this paragraph, so be careful. Clooney’s character, Ryan Bingham, is a smooth-talking consultant who makes his living on the road, doing the dirty work of laying off employees whom employers are too wimpy to sack themselves. Ryan has become the best (and most efficient) roving downsizer he can be by jettisoning all the “baggage,” physical and philosophical, that might weigh him down … that might force upon him the kinds of human emotions that Rand, too, rejects as distractions to achievement. Ryan even offers seminars in his spare time on how to ditch your possessions and your human relationships in order to become more successful! We watch as Ryan enters a sexual relationship with Vera Farmiga’s fellow traveler, Alex – a relationship, similar to Dagny and Hank’s in Atlas Shrugged, that both participants enter solely as a means of (casual) personal fulfillment, but which inevitably sprouts an element of co-dependence. Ryan eventually decides he’s ready to junk his philosophy and make a life with Alex – not as a means of “settling down,” but with the notion that two like-minded individualists can be happier together than apart. Sadly, things don’t work out – it turns out that Alex had achieved the same revelation years before, and already has a husband and family she’d conveniently neglected to mention. At the end of the film, Ryan still has his high-flying, detached, Rand-ian existence – but he has come to realize that it, like Enron, was a soulless house of cards that was doomed to topple.

Something to think about through this Oscar season (Up in the Air is a fine, fine film, though if I had a vote I’d probably still give it to The Hurt Locker). For now, though, I’m all a-twitter about tonight’s John Stossel gabfest, so I’ll finally sign off. If you miss the broadcast (and its reruns through the night), you can probably see snippets here . Maybe next week we’ll do a post-mortem, as I wrap up this series with Galt’s never-ending diatribe … and whatever happens after that.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    Halley's Wagnerian concerto is adding fuel to the conclusion I drew from the “moochers asphyxiated in the train tunnel” scenario. Dagny's quite the slut, isn't she? No matter; this novel is quickly sliding into Peyton Place.

    I remember when John Stossel was a slightly nerdy consumer reporter for WABC New York, and he seemed to have an affinity for the little guy. Funny what eight years of Cheneyomics can do to an attention-starved talking head.

    Finally, planes and flight have always been an allusion to power, the prime examples coming to mind being both Fritz Lang's Metropolis and Blade Runner, both asserting the little people are stuck running like rats in the streets while the elite fly above them, park on rooftop landing pads and never need to touch the dirty, common ground.

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  • ClayBarham

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  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    A new book? Really? Who wrot — oh, wait, I get it. Clever!

  • ClayBarham

    How terrible it is…..Imagine that, someone might learn something, at least from the site.

  • richardgleaves

    <<It should surprise no one that an Objectivist composer named John Mills-Cockel has recently recorded his own “Concerto of Deliverance” in tribute.>>
    It is dreck, but that doesn't have anything to do with Rand. I'm an Objectivist composer myself, incidently http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ21DY9fs1Y
    I find your comments about Hitler and “Rand youth” and Halley as Wagnerian/Aryan etc etc to be particularly disgusting. Rand admired Russian composer Sergei Rachmaninoff and considered him the model for Halley. Anything else is only in your fevered and hateful imagination.

  • richardgleaves

    btw- Rand was Jewish by birth. Nice liberal values for you to be calling her a Nazi.

  • richardgleaves

    “Dagny's quite the slut, isn't she?”

    Slut? Dagny has three serious relationships in her lifetime and she's pushing 40. How many people have you slept with? She has two sexual relationships in the course of a novel which takes place over several years. Another relationship is described in flashback. This is what offends me by the way liberals & christians approach the book- they are so intent on smearing everything in it with a total disregard for the facts or by applying the standards they'd apply to any other piece of fiction or to real life. I find it hard to believe that you're actually offended by a woman sleeping with two men (monogamously, and not at the same time- she is single when she meets Hank and ends that relationship when she meets Galt). Suddenly when its Dagny people who are in real like advocates of the sexual revolution in all other matters -from gay marriage to free condoms in kindergartens clutch their beads like little old ladies. I'm a gay guy, btw.

    There's no bigger prude than a liberal libertine confronted with an adulterous Republican. You're such hypocrites.

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    Who said it was terrible? Still, it never hurts to say “I'm selling a book and here's where to find it” instead of “a new book is due out.”

  • http://thevitaminkid.blogspot.com autodidact

    I'm a Christian. If you've been reading my comments, it is obvious that I am not smearing the book. Rand is very wrong about some important things, but she's right about many things. Atlas Shrugged doesn't fit comfortably within a Christian framework where “A is A” means God is God, not the individual is God. I don't believe it fits with our founding fathers' understanding of natural law, either. Rand's overall foundation is not a popular orientation.

    There is a basic morality to what Rand is preaching, though. While the reviewer has great fun with his snide remarks, he has not produced a good argument for why the notion that half my labor belongs to someone else is a moral truth.

    Another huge error Jon keeps making is to equate crony capitalists with Randian heroes. Ayn Rand's characters actually produce things of value. Enron produced, in the end, mostly lies, fancy accounting and fraud. I don't think Rand would have thought there was much just compensation in that. Unfortunately, she's not around for us to ask. In this novel, though, she's dealing with basic components of a physical economy, e.g. producers of food, metals, machines, and transportation to bring those goods to consumers. To bring “financial innovation” such as derivatives and liar loans, or fraudulent accounting, into the picture is something Rand didn't deal with, and it's wrong to lump that into producers of honest goods and services who compete against other producers in a free market to provide the most to the customer at the least cost.

    Anyway, Dagny is a slut, but that's hardly what the book is about. Jon correctly notes that the book is not “family friendly.” There are no children. Anywhere. There seems to be little concern for a next generation. I think this is just an aspect of Rand's character that comes out in the book. I don't think she gave children much of a thought. Maybe she didn't even like them.

  • JonCummings

    You're really on fire over my little series of columns, aren't you? Calling Barney Frank an “incompetent” (why? because he doesn't share your beliefs?), calling one commenter a “prude” and another (via paraphrasing) an “asshole,” and variously calling me “witless” and suggesting I'm an anti-Semite when I never called Rand a Nazi… (Are “Sonic Youth” Nazis as well?) I will refrain from responding in kind, because I'm sure you are an utterly superlative person.

    However, I will say that using phrases like “no bigger prude than a liberal libertine…” and “nice liberal values…” don't make you sound like a free-thinking Objectivist. They make you sound like a talking-points-spouding, common Newt Gingrich Republican.

    A constant running through your various comments is an assumption that Atlas Shrugged must be understood in the context of, or even with full knowledge of, Rand's entire published ouevre, her biography, and even her likes and dislikes when it comes to composers. You may feel free to think that way, but I, for one, don't give a shit whether Rand was a Rachmaninoff fan. Her descriptions of Halley's works make them sound unsubtle and overly triumphalist, and her description (through him) of the way Objectivist philosophy pertains to the making, offering and consumption of art seems schematic, entirely unrealistic for most artists, and incompatible with an aesthetic that could result in the creation of very much good work in the real world.

    That's not to disparage your own work — I hope it's very good. It's unnecessary to take an exactly opposing view to Rand's on this subject — even though her attitude would negate the possibility of a work like, say, John Lennon's “Imagine,” which would seem to have been written not just with, but FROM an anti-Objectivist viewpoint. (And if you'd like to argue that “Imagine” is not a work of lasting, high-quality art, you may feel free to do so, but you'll be in a tiny minority.)

    On this, as on so many other issues, Rand takes far too much of a black-and-white perspective and fails to take into account the many shades of gray that actually make up human existence.

  • richardgleaves

    On the contrary, I think “Imagine” is a superlative work of art. The criterion of art is whether it communicates it's purpose- Imagine is a composition and text on a certain theme and communicates that theme effectively, therefore it's good art.

    I do think John Lennon, with his fortune and lifestyle, was a hypocrite. No possessions?

    By the way- my comment was ______ the other poster used the word “asshole” not me. And you clearly implied Rand was a Nazi several times. (Odd how close that word is to Na'vi lol). I never called you an anti-semite I said sarcastically you were showing admirable political correctness in making that case against a Jewish woman.

    As far as Barney Frank- he's the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee who blocked oversight changes on Fannie and Freddie- Ground Zero of the eventual subprime mess that killed us- saying “These two entities…are not facing any kind of financial crisis…. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” That is incompetence that substantially crippled our economy. He's a corrupt hack who spent last year playing kickback favors to his friends and buddies while unconnected businesses went bankrupt. He's a monster. Do you have any idea how many billions that man has cost the country? Please notice I lumped him in with GWBush

    btw- Newt Gingrich Republican? I'll say the same things about the ignorant bible thumping conservatives like Newt. A plague on both their houses.

  • richardgleaves

    You're really on fire over my little series of columns, aren't you?

    A luxury of being self-employed. I have free time to answer things if i think they need answering. I'm not saying anything you don't already know- you're just used to writing for a crowd that reflexively agrees with you. No unbiased audience would let you peddle such obviously slanted stuff without calling you on it. I'm just asking you to be a grownup and admit you're not really reviewing the novel- just spitting on it whenever you feel Rand leaves you an opening. Did you really find nothing to admire or enjoy in 1000 pages? Are you afraid of repercussions if you state the things you liked? Will you be kicked out of the left? You're really taking the easy and lazy way out. In all the years i've followed the response to Rand's works I've never once seen a leftist who actually stated the core ideas of the work honestly and fought on that battleground. It's always sex, supposed narcissism/elites and ranting about some segment that is unrepresented- as if a novel could cover every element of human life. There are children in Atlas Shrugged (more in AR's earlier work) but it's a passage about a young mother in the valley- what is there for children to DO in a plot about the socialist takeover of American industry?

    I called the other commenter a prude because he thought two romantic relationships over a period of several years was being a 'slut'. Is somehow 'slut' not an insult and 'prude' is?

    I also didn't call you witless- i said I can't imagine you'd be witless enough to actually miss the obvious themes of the book so you must be evading them. You read my comments almost as closely as you're reading the novel- and with less comprehension. So if you did actually miss the obvious themes of the book I apologize for the insult- gladly, because you have worse problems than me and I hate to pile on. I will say in that case you have no business continuing your column and should go back and read again more closely. Both the novel and what I've written about your “little columns”.

    PS- why did you start a column at all if you don't want a dialog? You've continued to evade every substantive point I've made. I stand by my assessment that this whole affair is intellectually dishonest.

    I'm sure you're an utterly superlative person as well

  • richardgleaves

    You can surely call Dagny an adulteress? But slut? Not really.

    I don't know where you imagine children would fit into the plot of Atlas Shrugged. Dagny and Francisco and Eddie and James all are presented as children with mothers and fathers in flashback- and there's much discussion about what childhood should be like. There are children in the valley- and Dagny enters into a conversation with their mother:

    The recaptured sense of her own childhood kept coming back to her whenever she met the two sons of the young woman who owned the bakery shop. She often saw them wandering down the trails of the valley-two fearless beings, aged seven and four. They seemed to face life as she had faced it. [...] The two boys had the open, joyous, friendly confidence of kittens who do not expect to get hurt, they had an innocently natural, non-boastful sense of their own value and as innocent a trust in any stranger's ability to recognize it, they had the eager curiosity that would venture anywhere with the certainty that life held nothing unworthy of or closed to discovery, and they looked as if, should they encounter malevolence, they would reject it contemptuously, not as dangerous, but as stupid, they would not accept it in bruised resignation as the law of existence.
    “They [her sons --ed] represent my particular career, Miss Taggart,” said the young mother in answer to her comment, wrapping a loaf of fresh bread and smiling at her across the counter. “They're the profession I've chosen to practice, which, in spite of all the guff about motherhood, one can't practice successfully in the outer world. I believe you've met my husband, he's the teacher of economics who works as linesman for Dick McNamara. You know, of course, that there can be no collective commitments in this valley and that families or relatives are not allowed to come here, unless each person takes the striker's oath by his own independent conviction. I came here, not merely for the sake of my husband's profession, but for the sake of my own. I came here in order to bring up my sons as human beings. I would not surrender them to the educational systems devised to stunt a child's brain, to convince him that reason is impotent, that existence is an irrational chaos with which he's unable to deal, and thus reduce him to a state of chronic terror. You marvel at the difference between my children and those outside, Miss Taggart? Yet the cause is so simple. The cause is that here, in Galt's Gulch, there's no person who would not consider it monstrous ever to confront a child with the slightest suggestion of the irrational.” [bold added] (Atlas Shrugged, p. 724)

    I'm always curious as to where you would fit children into a story that's about the socialist takeover of the economy. There's lots of minor characters who worry about their families. Are you expecting Dagny to get pregnant out of wedlock or what? I'm genuinely curious what these children are supposed to be doing in the plot of this novel.

    PS- Adding a child wrecked Star Wars- just sayin'

    Objectivism doesn't say individuals are god- it says individuals are individuals and that 'God' is a false concept. It's actually more in keeping with the founding fathers than men like Gingrich or Obama are. Note thst rights are requirements for man's life, not gifts from a deity or from society.

    The rest of your comments are pretty much on the money and you're right you're not smearing the book. You seem to be genuinely speaking your mind honestly. As to whether Jon's snide remarks are 'fun' I dunno- he seems to be striking a pose for his readership.

  • JonCummings

    You know, Richard, I will grant you one thing — I will cop to a certain glibness in this series, and in my work in general. It's what I do. I do it to entertain myself (See? Self-interest!), and hopefully to make my rantings about politics more palatable to an audience that didn't (necessarily) come to a pop-culture website to have punditry thrown in their faces. And if I can cook up more silly alliterations like “Big-Business Brigadoon” for my column next week, I'm gonna do it. Maybe you consider it the “easy and lazy way out” of discussing an 1100-page novel, but to be honest, there's only so much high-minded thinking I can (or, rather, am willing to) shove into an internet column whose word-count guidelines I already abuse. And I try, whenever I remember to do so (or don't get too angry), to state my opinions with humor rather than with insults.

    If you were a regular reader, you'd know that I engage almost every week with one or two commenters who could hardly disagree with me more. Sometimes, when I say something outrageous, I get attacks from more than one or two. I'm thankful to them, because while it isn't always pretty or enlightening, we usually wind up learning something about the way people of different ideologies feel about various topics … and, more generally, how they think.

    As for the substance, I'm happy to engage in a back-and-forth about the specifics of Rand's ideology — though a comments section probably isn't the best place to do it. But I have to tell you that I find Rand's belittling of her fictional villains (not to mention any real-life “altruist” who occasionally chooses to put others' wants/needs/desires above his own) as “unthinking” to be a conversation ender, not starter. THAT'S what's “easy and lazy,” as far as I'm concerned — it's even worse than the way modern-day liberals and conservatives ridicule each other — yet Rand spends the entire novel overplaying the awful natures of “altruists” in order to encourage her readers to accept her ideas. Is it such an attitude that leads you to conclude that I'm somehow not “comprehending” the book adequately, just because I'm making fun of the places where I find it ridiculous without expounding to your satisfaction on the merits of her themes?

    Actually, I'm enjoying Atlas Shrugged immensely, though I find little to “admire” apart from Dagny's stick-to-itiveness in a situation where all the rest of the industrialists are abandoning ship. (I'll have an Al Gore comparison in my next column that will make the contents of your head splatter the walls.) Let's remember, though, that I've written five columns that primarily have examined the plot, rather than making final conclusions about all its themes — BECAUSE I HAVEN'T FINISHED THE NOVEL YET. Which is not to say I'll have any opinions next week that you'll like any more than you've liked the ones you've read so far. You're entitled to your own opinions of Rand, and of me, certainly — but Rand's notion that someone is unthinking because he rejects her philosophy is, while convenient for an Objectivist, a cowardly and repugnant intellectual deceit.

  • EricL

    An hour long John Stossel examination of Objectivisim on Fox Business? The station may implode in an supernova of smug self interest. It has to be self interest, because he will most likely be the only one interested.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    In Jon's defense, I used the word “slut”, and here's why – an adulteress has at least a semblance of emotional passion for the conquest (which, I suppose, fits her feelings toward Galt) but, again and again, Dagny has proven her willingness to use her sex for her self-actualization, like any other tool or weapon. Most of the time, it's not that she loves too much – she doesn't love at all. Sex is an act to propel her aims, hence “slut.” Yes, it was glib, but calling Dagny just a lovelorn adulteress is totally unrepresentative.

  • JonCummings

    Well, I've never considered Dagny a slut, though the depictions of her first sexual experiences with both Hank and Galt are disconcerting. In fact, her three choices of partners are all natural outgrowths of her personality, worldview and circumstances, which is just about all anyone can hope for. She doesn't bother with long-winded speeches about it. It's one of the reasons Dagny is a more relatable character than her fellow titans of self-reliance.

    One of the problems with writing a set of serial columns about reading a work of fiction is that you don't know the end when you're writing about the beginning. So, while Hank's rather despicable post-coital speech from earlier in the novel seemed at the time to play into what still appears to be a bizarre attitude toward sex on Rand's part, we now see that it was a reflection of a social construct that Hank needed to abandon in order to achieve self-actualization. (I like imposing crunchy-granola jargon on Rand's work!)

    Interestingly, this is just about the only instance in the entire book in which a character actually evolves in his thinking. Dagny, Hank, Frisco, Galt, etc. burst into the book as full-blown Rand heroes, while Jim Taggart, Wesley Mouch, Lillian Rearden and the rest start out evil and stay (one-dimensionally) evil. The biggest suspense in the novel is the question of, how long will it take for Hank and Dagny to realize how awful these people are, and to join Galt in Shangri-La? Otherwise, there's no learning, no growing. It's like a Seinfeld episode in that way.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    The other thing I need to come across with is that you really never inferred Nazi-ism, but that was me as well, and i think it is a whiff of something, if not a conclusion, first-time readers are bound to catch. The argument is that Rand couldn't possibly come to that conclusion because she's Jewish, which is kind of nonsensical, mainly because her “save yourself” belief structure, if carried across the entirety of her worldview, would tend to make her less sympathetic to the plight of fellow Jews. Her stance might be “fight back” versus “don't ever board that train to Dachau.”

    In this, I'm not saying she's a Nazi or a sympathizer, but I am saying that there possibly is a psychological thread of self-loathing, expressed in her symbolism, because she doesn't know how Jews could have been subjugated and slaughtered as they were, why their response wasn't more powerful and, dare I say it, self-actualized. That it might subconsciously spill out into her writing has less to do with any prejudices she might have harbored and much more about a literary Freudian slip.

    Again, I don't think Ayn Rand was sympathetic to the power of Nazi-ism. Let's all be clear about that.

  • http://thevitaminkid.blogspot.com autodidact

    I think the sex scenes in AS are so ridiculous, I just consider them comic relief.

  • http://thevitaminkid.blogspot.com autodidact

    I stand corrected. There are children in the book. It's been almost a decade since I read Atlas Shrugged, though I did review part of the abridged audio version just recently. I did remember the childhood flashbacks, but since everyone is a child at one time, I didn't consider that really evidence of her specifically handling the subject of children.

    I just think that's a part of society — raising children — that Rand barely touched on, and of course you're right, the novel is about one thing, and we can't expect it explain everything about her worldview. That's a point I've made myself here — it's a great novel, but even in 1000 pages it can only cover so much ground. The points it makes, it makes well, though with flaws. If we continue on the present path, we will begin to see the kind of breakdown envisioned in Atlas Shrugged. I don't know if it will be due to the collapse of the currency, or war, or what form it will take. But Rand has seen well the kind of men who now form the ruling oligarchy. Soulless, power-hungry idiots.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    “Adding a child wrecked Star Wars- just sayin'…”

    Okay Richard. You got me there.

  • JonCummings

    Let's not go overboard here. The presence of two kids in Galt's Gulch, behaving pretty much like regular ol' carefree boys while being exalted as Rand heroes in the making, hardly qualifies as a fair representation of children. The bigger question is, why does not a single major character in the book (hero or villain) seem to have children, or for that matter want to have them?

    I'm tired of the excuse that a 1,168-page novel “can only cover so much ground.” No, it's not so much about family relations, but the fact that even Lillian Rearden didn't squeeze out a rugrat or two is a pretty glaring fact.

    One more thing: Can you please name for me, just as a point of reference, five politicians in your entire lifetime who you DON'T consider to have been “soulless, power-hungry idiots”? The question I'm asking is, from your perspective is it even possible for someone to engage in the act of running for office or governing without fitting that description and offering little to nothing else in the way of redeeming qualities?

  • JonCummings

    Let's not go overboard here. The presence of two kids in Galt's Gulch, behaving pretty much like regular ol' carefree boys while being exalted as Rand heroes in the making, hardly qualifies as a fair representation of children. The bigger question is, why does not a single major character in the book (hero or villain) seem to have children, or for that matter want to have them?

    I'm tired of the excuse that a 1,168-page novel “can only cover so much ground.” No, it's not so much about family relations, but the fact that even Lillian Rearden didn't squeeze out a rugrat or two is a pretty glaring fact.

    One more thing: Can you please name for me, just as a point of reference, five politicians in your entire lifetime who you DON'T consider to have been “soulless, power-hungry idiots”? The question I'm asking is, from your perspective is it even possible for someone to engage in the act of running for office or governing without fitting that description and offering little to nothing else in the way of redeeming qualities?

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