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		<title>By: JonCummings</title>
		<link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-chuckles-and-cho-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-42540</link>
		<dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally don&#039;t believe that one single death, accidental or intentional, is &quot;acceptable&quot; in order to preserve the right (which never should have existed, as such, in the first place) to easily access handguns, whose only useful purpose on the planet is to kill or maim people.  (Though I&#039;m sure they look real pretty in your gun case.  I sincerely hope you never have reason to regret having them around.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Instead of swimming pools or bathtubs, you make comparisons to driving, hospitals, and medicinal side effects.  Don&#039;t you see the difference?  Your car doesn&#039;t sit in the driveway all night waiting for you to get inside and fulfill its mission of mowing down pedestrians--it was built (and cars are used by practically everyone, every day) to help you get from point A to point B and back.  Hospitals around the world are crowded with sick people who trust them to help make them well.  Pharmaceuticals are manufactured, approved and sold (and then used by millions every day) to treat, comfort and heal people, not to kill them.  A handgun, on the other hand, has no real use except to send a bullet flying at its target in order to inflict damage on that target--and every improvement made to handguns is designed to make them more effective in damaging just one type of target--human beings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want to argue cost-benefit analyses of handguns vs. cars, pharmaceuticals, hospitals or swimming pools, the results aren&#039;t going to come out as you&#039;d like them to. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe that hunters and recreational shooters should have the ability to procure tightly-regulated rifles and the ammunition for them, of a type and in a quantity as needed to serve their recreational purposes while posing the absolute lowest possible risk of &quot;collateral damage&quot; to other humans (Dick Cheney&#039;s aim notwithstanding).  But if the Constitution is required to guarantee the ability to take a small arsenal of semiautomatic pistols to a shooting range, I say get a frickin&#039; bow and arrow.  They may not give the same rush of violent power, but they require more skill.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know how to explain the Swiss&#039; remarkable restraint when it comes to the number of firearms there--though it&#039;s worth noting that only some army officers (not enlisted men) are issued handguns and that ammunition is tightly regulated.  The gun culture they&#039;ve cultivated is obviously very different from ours, but I reject the idea that &quot;we simply have too many scummy people who want to kill other people.&quot; Which people are those?   Are you saying we are a scummier society than the Swiss?  Can you prove that with any real evidence other than our obscene gun-death statistics?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even if we could both agree that the Swiss have a more prudent gun culture than ours--and the Swiss can&#039;t even agree on that, since there&#039;s an active (and sometimes successful) gun-control lobby there--then we should also be able to agree that our own gun culture, starting with the Second Amendment and the gun lobby&#039;s absolutism regarding any limitations to it, simply doesn&#039;t work.  Where to go from there should be the question we&#039;re working to solve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally don&#39;t believe that one single death, accidental or intentional, is &#8220;acceptable&#8221; in order to preserve the right (which never should have existed, as such, in the first place) to easily access handguns, whose only useful purpose on the planet is to kill or maim people.  (Though I&#39;m sure they look real pretty in your gun case.  I sincerely hope you never have reason to regret having them around.)</p>
<p>Instead of swimming pools or bathtubs, you make comparisons to driving, hospitals, and medicinal side effects.  Don&#39;t you see the difference?  Your car doesn&#39;t sit in the driveway all night waiting for you to get inside and fulfill its mission of mowing down pedestrians&#8211;it was built (and cars are used by practically everyone, every day) to help you get from point A to point B and back.  Hospitals around the world are crowded with sick people who trust them to help make them well.  Pharmaceuticals are manufactured, approved and sold (and then used by millions every day) to treat, comfort and heal people, not to kill them.  A handgun, on the other hand, has no real use except to send a bullet flying at its target in order to inflict damage on that target&#8211;and every improvement made to handguns is designed to make them more effective in damaging just one type of target&#8211;human beings.</p>
<p>If you want to argue cost-benefit analyses of handguns vs. cars, pharmaceuticals, hospitals or swimming pools, the results aren&#39;t going to come out as you&#39;d like them to. </p>
<p>I believe that hunters and recreational shooters should have the ability to procure tightly-regulated rifles and the ammunition for them, of a type and in a quantity as needed to serve their recreational purposes while posing the absolute lowest possible risk of &#8220;collateral damage&#8221; to other humans (Dick Cheney&#39;s aim notwithstanding).  But if the Constitution is required to guarantee the ability to take a small arsenal of semiautomatic pistols to a shooting range, I say get a frickin&#39; bow and arrow.  They may not give the same rush of violent power, but they require more skill.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know how to explain the Swiss&#39; remarkable restraint when it comes to the number of firearms there&#8211;though it&#39;s worth noting that only some army officers (not enlisted men) are issued handguns and that ammunition is tightly regulated.  The gun culture they&#39;ve cultivated is obviously very different from ours, but I reject the idea that &#8220;we simply have too many scummy people who want to kill other people.&#8221; Which people are those?   Are you saying we are a scummier society than the Swiss?  Can you prove that with any real evidence other than our obscene gun-death statistics?</p>
<p>Even if we could both agree that the Swiss have a more prudent gun culture than ours&#8211;and the Swiss can&#39;t even agree on that, since there&#39;s an active (and sometimes successful) gun-control lobby there&#8211;then we should also be able to agree that our own gun culture, starting with the Second Amendment and the gun lobby&#39;s absolutism regarding any limitations to it, simply doesn&#39;t work.  Where to go from there should be the question we&#39;re working to solve.</p>
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		<title>By: JonCummings</title>
		<link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-chuckles-and-cho-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-22784</link>
		<dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally don&#039;t believe that one single death, accidental or intentional, is &quot;acceptable&quot; in order to preserve the right (which never should have existed, as such, in the first place) to easily access handguns, whose only useful purpose on the planet is to kill or maim people.  (Though I&#039;m sure they look real pretty in your gun case.  I sincerely hope you never have reason to regret having them around.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Instead of swimming pools or bathtubs, you make comparisons to driving, hospitals, and medicinal side effects.  Don&#039;t you see the difference?  Your car doesn&#039;t sit in the driveway all night waiting for you to get inside and fulfill its mission of mowing down pedestrians--it was built (and cars are used by practically everyone, every day) to help you get from point A to point B and back.  Hospitals around the world are crowded with sick people who trust them to help make them well.  Pharmaceuticals are manufactured, approved and sold (and then used by millions every day) to treat, comfort and heal people, not to kill them.  A handgun, on the other hand, has no real use except to send a bullet flying at its target in order to inflict damage on that target--and every improvement made to handguns is designed to make them more effective in damaging just one type of target--human beings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want to argue cost-benefit analyses of handguns vs. cars, pharmaceuticals, hospitals or swimming pools, the results aren&#039;t going to come out as you&#039;d like them to. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe that hunters and recreational shooters should have the ability to procure tightly-regulated rifles and the ammunition for them, of a type and in a quantity as needed to serve their recreational purposes while posing the absolute lowest possible risk of &quot;collateral damage&quot; to other humans (Dick Cheney&#039;s aim notwithstanding).  But if the Constitution is required to guarantee the ability to take a small arsenal of semiautomatic pistols to a shooting range, I say get a frickin&#039; bow and arrow.  They may not give the same rush of violent power, but they require more skill.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know how to explain the Swiss&#039; remarkable restraint when it comes to the number of firearms there--though it&#039;s worth noting that only some army officers (not enlisted men) are issued handguns and that ammunition is tightly regulated.  The gun culture they&#039;ve cultivated is obviously very different from ours, but I reject the idea that &quot;we simply have too many scummy people who want to kill other people.&quot; Which people are those?   Are you saying we are a scummier society than the Swiss?  Can you prove that with any real evidence other than our obscene gun-death statistics?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even if we could both agree that the Swiss have a more prudent gun culture than ours--and the Swiss can&#039;t even agree on that, since there&#039;s an active (and sometimes successful) gun-control lobby there--then we should also be able to agree that our own gun culture, starting with the Second Amendment and the gun lobby&#039;s absolutism regarding any limitations to it, simply doesn&#039;t work.  Where to go from there should be the question we&#039;re working to solve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally don&#39;t believe that one single death, accidental or intentional, is &#8220;acceptable&#8221; in order to preserve the right (which never should have existed, as such, in the first place) to easily access handguns, whose only useful purpose on the planet is to kill or maim people.  (Though I&#39;m sure they look real pretty in your gun case.  I sincerely hope you never have reason to regret having them around.)</p>
<p>Instead of swimming pools or bathtubs, you make comparisons to driving, hospitals, and medicinal side effects.  Don&#39;t you see the difference?  Your car doesn&#39;t sit in the driveway all night waiting for you to get inside and fulfill its mission of mowing down pedestrians&#8211;it was built (and cars are used by practically everyone, every day) to help you get from point A to point B and back.  Hospitals around the world are crowded with sick people who trust them to help make them well.  Pharmaceuticals are manufactured, approved and sold (and then used by millions every day) to treat, comfort and heal people, not to kill them.  A handgun, on the other hand, has no real use except to send a bullet flying at its target in order to inflict damage on that target&#8211;and every improvement made to handguns is designed to make them more effective in damaging just one type of target&#8211;human beings.</p>
<p>If you want to argue cost-benefit analyses of handguns vs. cars, pharmaceuticals, hospitals or swimming pools, the results aren&#39;t going to come out as you&#39;d like them to. </p>
<p>I believe that hunters and recreational shooters should have the ability to procure tightly-regulated rifles and the ammunition for them, of a type and in a quantity as needed to serve their recreational purposes while posing the absolute lowest possible risk of &#8220;collateral damage&#8221; to other humans (Dick Cheney&#39;s aim notwithstanding).  But if the Constitution is required to guarantee the ability to take a small arsenal of semiautomatic pistols to a shooting range, I say get a frickin&#39; bow and arrow.  They may not give the same rush of violent power, but they require more skill.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know how to explain the Swiss&#39; remarkable restraint when it comes to the number of firearms there&#8211;though it&#39;s worth noting that only some army officers (not enlisted men) are issued handguns and that ammunition is tightly regulated.  The gun culture they&#39;ve cultivated is obviously very different from ours, but I reject the idea that &#8220;we simply have too many scummy people who want to kill other people.&#8221; Which people are those?   Are you saying we are a scummier society than the Swiss?  Can you prove that with any real evidence other than our obscene gun-death statistics?</p>
<p>Even if we could both agree that the Swiss have a more prudent gun culture than ours&#8211;and the Swiss can&#39;t even agree on that, since there&#39;s an active (and sometimes successful) gun-control lobby there&#8211;then we should also be able to agree that our own gun culture, starting with the Second Amendment and the gun lobby&#39;s absolutism regarding any limitations to it, simply doesn&#39;t work.  Where to go from there should be the question we&#39;re working to solve.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-chuckles-and-cho-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-22783</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the level of  &quot;acceptable losses&quot; we are willing to endure to preserve the freedom to easily access firearms to defend ourselves, or for practical purposes like hunting? Isn&#039;t this the essential question? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The question is similar to that surrounding any useful but potentially deadly technology.  What is the trade-off between speed limit and traffic fatalities? How many deaths from the side effects of a drug should tip the scale toward banning the drug? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These are questions of judgment and individual values. Naturally, there won&#039;t be perfect agreement between people. My bias is to lean toward maximum freedom for the individual. If you want to take a risky drug, fine, why should the FDA be a grandma and say you can&#039;t. You want to play with pointed sticks? Fine, but you may poke your eye out. Your choice. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Instead of dealing with the real question, you pull out the wacky antics of Nugent or the mentally disturbed as props to dramatize the issue. You pull out the most extreme examples as ammunition. Haha. But as we all know, hard cases make bad law. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is inherent truth in the proposition that people kill people, not guns. To illustrate, in Switzerland, every household has a gun. Their murder rate is half of ours. To quote Heston, &quot;It&#039;s PEOPLE!&quot; We simply have too many scummy people who want to kill other people. Whether we respond to that by the nanny state taking away the guns, or giving individuals the choice and means to defend themselves (and their neighbors) is largely a matter of values, and a question acceptable losses. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t tell me you don&#039;t believe in acceptable losses, or you&#039;d be wanting to ban hospitals and automobiles, both responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths annually. Freedom, including Second Amendment freedom, has a price. It appears that in America, we value that freedom very highly, in spite of the risks. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Disclaimer: I probably have enough firearms to arm every home on my block, though I haven&#039;t shot a gun since I was six years old. It is an inherited collection. Still, I value my freedom to own them. And I vote accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the level of  &#8220;acceptable losses&#8221; we are willing to endure to preserve the freedom to easily access firearms to defend ourselves, or for practical purposes like hunting? Isn&#39;t this the essential question? </p>
<p>The question is similar to that surrounding any useful but potentially deadly technology.  What is the trade-off between speed limit and traffic fatalities? How many deaths from the side effects of a drug should tip the scale toward banning the drug? </p>
<p>These are questions of judgment and individual values. Naturally, there won&#39;t be perfect agreement between people. My bias is to lean toward maximum freedom for the individual. If you want to take a risky drug, fine, why should the FDA be a grandma and say you can&#39;t. You want to play with pointed sticks? Fine, but you may poke your eye out. Your choice. </p>
<p>Instead of dealing with the real question, you pull out the wacky antics of Nugent or the mentally disturbed as props to dramatize the issue. You pull out the most extreme examples as ammunition. Haha. But as we all know, hard cases make bad law. </p>
<p>There is inherent truth in the proposition that people kill people, not guns. To illustrate, in Switzerland, every household has a gun. Their murder rate is half of ours. To quote Heston, &#8220;It&#39;s PEOPLE!&#8221; We simply have too many scummy people who want to kill other people. Whether we respond to that by the nanny state taking away the guns, or giving individuals the choice and means to defend themselves (and their neighbors) is largely a matter of values, and a question acceptable losses. </p>
<p>Don&#39;t tell me you don&#39;t believe in acceptable losses, or you&#39;d be wanting to ban hospitals and automobiles, both responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths annually. Freedom, including Second Amendment freedom, has a price. It appears that in America, we value that freedom very highly, in spite of the risks. </p>
<p>Disclaimer: I probably have enough firearms to arm every home on my block, though I haven&#39;t shot a gun since I was six years old. It is an inherited collection. Still, I value my freedom to own them. And I vote accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh-huh. The &quot;castle doctrine&quot; is said to be used as a defense mostly in the shooting deaths of INNOCENT people thought to be intruders. As far as shooting an actual intruder, you are extremely unlikely to go to jail for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh-huh. The &#8220;castle doctrine&#8221; is said to be used as a defense mostly in the shooting deaths of INNOCENT people thought to be intruders. As far as shooting an actual intruder, you are extremely unlikely to go to jail for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually a good point, and one I hadn&#039;t thought of. I still think he would&#039;ve been a killer, but maybe of the unabomber or serial killer variety. But you&#039;re right about the titillation he got from all those &quot;Oldboy&quot; poses and such. I&#039;m sure the handguns gave him some kind of adrenaline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s actually a good point, and one I hadn&#39;t thought of. I still think he would&#39;ve been a killer, but maybe of the unabomber or serial killer variety. But you&#39;re right about the titillation he got from all those &#8220;Oldboy&#8221; poses and such. I&#39;m sure the handguns gave him some kind of adrenaline.</p>
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		<title>By: JonCummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see your point; thanks for the clarification.  I do think, however (and not to open another can of worms, necessarily), that Cho&#039;s gun fetish was a huge part of his pathology.  He liked the idea of the &quot;power&quot; he got from those guns to lash out, to take revenge, to get attention with those damn photos.  Would he have gotten the same titillation; would he have felt the same power rush while committing his horrible act; would he imagine he was getting the same immortality, from planting a bomb or blowing himself up?  I don&#039;t know, but from the look of those pictures I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point; thanks for the clarification.  I do think, however (and not to open another can of worms, necessarily), that Cho&#39;s gun fetish was a huge part of his pathology.  He liked the idea of the &#8220;power&#8221; he got from those guns to lash out, to take revenge, to get attention with those damn photos.  Would he have gotten the same titillation; would he have felt the same power rush while committing his horrible act; would he imagine he was getting the same immortality, from planting a bomb or blowing himself up?  I don&#39;t know, but from the look of those pictures I don&#39;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t trying to defend handguns or the laws as much as question your example. You used him as an example to say that in an alternate reality where we didn&#039;t have handguns readily available, the victims would still be alive. That&#039;s a huge &quot;if&quot; and when we&#039;re talking about someone who didn&#039;t just kill one or two people, but over two dozen, we&#039;re talking about a commitment to violence that&#039;s on a whole other level than many handgun-using criminals. This is someone who was committed to and planned on killing people on a large scale. If his ability to obtain handguns had been impeded in any way, who&#039;s to say he wouldn&#039;t have found alternate methods to achieve his goal? Your argument wasn&#039;t that it would be more difficult to kill people without handguns (which I would agree with), it was that a massacre of any kind wouldn&#039;t have happened without handguns, and I don&#039;t agree with that. &lt;br&gt;There was another college shooting last year committed by a guy (in Illinois maybe?) who was by all accounts not homicidal, but went off his psych medication, obtained guns and shot up a class room. If you had used that example I would be right on board with you. That&#039;s a prime example of the flaws in handgun laws: a normal man bought it, but a crazy man shot it, and they just happened to be the same man. &lt;br&gt;But Cho is different. He picked the easiest way, yes, but that wasn&#039;t the only way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#39;t trying to defend handguns or the laws as much as question your example. You used him as an example to say that in an alternate reality where we didn&#39;t have handguns readily available, the victims would still be alive. That&#39;s a huge &#8220;if&#8221; and when we&#39;re talking about someone who didn&#39;t just kill one or two people, but over two dozen, we&#39;re talking about a commitment to violence that&#39;s on a whole other level than many handgun-using criminals. This is someone who was committed to and planned on killing people on a large scale. If his ability to obtain handguns had been impeded in any way, who&#39;s to say he wouldn&#39;t have found alternate methods to achieve his goal? Your argument wasn&#39;t that it would be more difficult to kill people without handguns (which I would agree with), it was that a massacre of any kind wouldn&#39;t have happened without handguns, and I don&#39;t agree with that. <br />There was another college shooting last year committed by a guy (in Illinois maybe?) who was by all accounts not homicidal, but went off his psych medication, obtained guns and shot up a class room. If you had used that example I would be right on board with you. That&#39;s a prime example of the flaws in handgun laws: a normal man bought it, but a crazy man shot it, and they just happened to be the same man. <br />But Cho is different. He picked the easiest way, yes, but that wasn&#39;t the only way.</p>
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		<title>By: JonCummings</title>
		<link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-chuckles-and-cho-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-22778</link>
		<dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, is the argument that we might as well give up on ending handgun violence because criminals will just use bombs instead?  I don&#039;t buy it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you look at statistics across nations, our rates of various crimes are not significantly different from those in other nations--EXCEPT when it comes to the use of guns, and the carnage they create.  In other words, our rate of robberies committed without the use of guns, or murders committed without firearms, is very close to Canada&#039;s or Britain&#039;s.  It&#039;s the extraordinary difference in gun-related crime and murder that is striking.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The human impulse toward crime probably will never disappear; the difference made when a society rids itself of guns is in the potential for that impulse to result in death or grievous injury.  Most of the civilized world is happy to point out that whether you&#039;re talking about fists or knives or even homemade bombs, it&#039;s a lot more difficult to mug a person, or rob a store, or (particularly) kill one person or 32, when you can&#039;t use a gun to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, is the argument that we might as well give up on ending handgun violence because criminals will just use bombs instead?  I don&#39;t buy it.</p>
<p>If you look at statistics across nations, our rates of various crimes are not significantly different from those in other nations&#8211;EXCEPT when it comes to the use of guns, and the carnage they create.  In other words, our rate of robberies committed without the use of guns, or murders committed without firearms, is very close to Canada&#39;s or Britain&#39;s.  It&#39;s the extraordinary difference in gun-related crime and murder that is striking.</p>
<p>The human impulse toward crime probably will never disappear; the difference made when a society rids itself of guns is in the potential for that impulse to result in death or grievous injury.  Most of the civilized world is happy to point out that whether you&#39;re talking about fists or knives or even homemade bombs, it&#39;s a lot more difficult to mug a person, or rob a store, or (particularly) kill one person or 32, when you can&#39;t use a gun to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: JonCummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a cooked-up corollary to that one, which is that home burglary rates are lower in the US (not actually true) because potential burglars have to worry about getting their heads blown off by a pistol-packing homeowner.  A Harvard researcher did a survey of people who claimed they had used their weapons in self-defense, and found that the vast majority of them called it &quot;self-defense&quot; when an argument with a neighbor or spouse escalated to the waving of guns, or when a random nighttime noise caused them to briefly brandish a weapon, or some such event.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Back to your topic--one of the primary definitions of the word &quot;state&quot; holds that a governing entity doesn&#039;t rise to statehood until it holds a monopoly on the use of force within the area it governs.  Heaven knows all the handgun packers out there--a large proportion of whom seem to distrust their own government to inordinate degrees--would have trouble organizing themselves enough to fight off Barney Fife, much less an invading force.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In fact, the scenario you note seems to apply perfectly...to Iraq.  They sure were locked and loaded and ready to rock-and-roll when WE invaded...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s a cooked-up corollary to that one, which is that home burglary rates are lower in the US (not actually true) because potential burglars have to worry about getting their heads blown off by a pistol-packing homeowner.  A Harvard researcher did a survey of people who claimed they had used their weapons in self-defense, and found that the vast majority of them called it &#8220;self-defense&#8221; when an argument with a neighbor or spouse escalated to the waving of guns, or when a random nighttime noise caused them to briefly brandish a weapon, or some such event.</p>
<p>Back to your topic&#8211;one of the primary definitions of the word &#8220;state&#8221; holds that a governing entity doesn&#39;t rise to statehood until it holds a monopoly on the use of force within the area it governs.  Heaven knows all the handgun packers out there&#8211;a large proportion of whom seem to distrust their own government to inordinate degrees&#8211;would have trouble organizing themselves enough to fight off Barney Fife, much less an invading force.</p>
<p>In fact, the scenario you note seems to apply perfectly&#8230;to Iraq.  They sure were locked and loaded and ready to rock-and-roll when WE invaded&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David_E</title>
		<link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-chuckles-and-cho-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-22782</link>
		<dc:creator>David_E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Said it before, but it bears repeating: Ted Nugent shit himself for a week to get out of going to &#039;Nam. He can pack all the heat he wants â€“ doesn&#039;t make him any less of a coward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Said it before, but it bears repeating: Ted Nugent shit himself for a week to get out of going to &#39;Nam. He can pack all the heat he wants â€“ doesn&#39;t make him any less of a coward.</p>
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