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> <channel><title>Comments on: Political Culture: &#8220;Jericho&#8221; Walls Come Tumbling Down &#8230; Again</title> <atom:link href="http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/</link> <description>your daily dose of pop culture</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:18:05 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: 1Py_Korry1</title><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/comment-page-1/#comment-51504</link> <dc:creator>1Py_Korry1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:46:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/#comment-51504</guid> <description>Honestly, who really cares that Mamet (or any celeb, for that matter) decides that he or she has had enough of a political party.  From the quote above, it seems Mamet is just tired of politics. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon, thanks for the great review of Jericho.  I&#039;ve been stuck in a rut when it comes to TV shows, but now it looks like I&#039;ve missed a good one.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, who really cares that Mamet (or any celeb, for that matter) decides that he or she has had enough of a political party.  From the quote above, it seems Mamet is just tired of politics.</p><p>Jon, thanks for the great review of Jericho.  I&#39;ve been stuck in a rut when it comes to TV shows, but now it looks like I&#39;ve missed a good one.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 1Py_Korry1</title><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/comment-page-1/#comment-41058</link> <dc:creator>1Py_Korry1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/#comment-41058</guid> <description>Honestly, who really cares that Mamet (or any celeb, for that matter) decides that he or she has had enough of a political party.  From the quote above, it seems Mamet is just tired of politics. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon, thanks for the great review of Jericho.  I&#039;ve been stuck in a rut when it comes to TV shows, but now it looks like I&#039;ve missed a good one.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, who really cares that Mamet (or any celeb, for that matter) decides that he or she has had enough of a political party.  From the quote above, it seems Mamet is just tired of politics.</p><p>Jon, thanks for the great review of Jericho.  I&#39;ve been stuck in a rut when it comes to TV shows, but now it looks like I&#39;ve missed a good one.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 1Py_Korry1</title><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/comment-page-1/#comment-12203</link> <dc:creator>1Py_Korry1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:46:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/#comment-12203</guid> <description>Honestly, who really cares that Mamet (or any celeb, for that matter) decides that he or she has had enough of a political party.  From the quote above, it seems Mamet is just tired of politics. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon, thanks for the great review of Jericho.  I&#039;ve been stuck in a rut when it comes to TV shows, but now it looks like I&#039;ve missed a good one.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, who really cares that Mamet (or any celeb, for that matter) decides that he or she has had enough of a political party.  From the quote above, it seems Mamet is just tired of politics.</p><p>Jon, thanks for the great review of Jericho.  I&#39;ve been stuck in a rut when it comes to TV shows, but now it looks like I&#39;ve missed a good one.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Old_Davy</title><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/comment-page-1/#comment-12204</link> <dc:creator>Old_Davy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:05:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/#comment-12204</guid> <description>I didn&#039;t begin to watch Jericho until two weeks ago.  I had the opportunity to catch up on it when a co-worker loaned me her copy of the first season on DVD.  I was so captivated by it, I finished all of season one in a couple of days and then I watched all of season 2 online so I would be up to speed.  Knowing that next week&#039;s episode may be the last is very sad.  It is a brilliant show, although I do wish the writers had stuck to the original concept of a town bringing itself back up on it&#039;s feet after a devastating disaster (Katrina-like story line that ran through season 1) instead of the government-conspiracy-theory (the Iraq War-like story line in season 2).  This has nothing to do with my personal political views, I just thought the first season was more inspirational and therefore better entertainment.  If the end of the show is really next week, I have no idea how they&#039;re going to wrap up all the loose ends in one episode.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The thing that is most bittersweet about the show is how they kill off characters.  Just when you really get to care about a character, they get killed off.  This is frustrating as entertainment, but as a social commentary, it is a brilliant and realistic point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I&#039;m no political junkie, but I consider myself to be well-informed.  Every time I hear Obama speak, I hear a man who is intelligent, gutsy and is able to communicate effectively.  You understand what he is saying, unlike most politicians who talk in circles and blow hot air.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#39;t begin to watch Jericho until two weeks ago.  I had the opportunity to catch up on it when a co-worker loaned me her copy of the first season on DVD.  I was so captivated by it, I finished all of season one in a couple of days and then I watched all of season 2 online so I would be up to speed.  Knowing that next week&#39;s episode may be the last is very sad.  It is a brilliant show, although I do wish the writers had stuck to the original concept of a town bringing itself back up on it&#39;s feet after a devastating disaster (Katrina-like story line that ran through season 1) instead of the government-conspiracy-theory (the Iraq War-like story line in season 2).  This has nothing to do with my personal political views, I just thought the first season was more inspirational and therefore better entertainment.  If the end of the show is really next week, I have no idea how they&#39;re going to wrap up all the loose ends in one episode.</p><p>The thing that is most bittersweet about the show is how they kill off characters.  Just when you really get to care about a character, they get killed off.  This is frustrating as entertainment, but as a social commentary, it is a brilliant and realistic point.</p><p>Now I&#39;m no political junkie, but I consider myself to be well-informed.  Every time I hear Obama speak, I hear a man who is intelligent, gutsy and is able to communicate effectively.  You understand what he is saying, unlike most politicians who talk in circles and blow hot air.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/comment-page-1/#comment-12202</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:05:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/#comment-12202</guid> <description>Thanks for the recitation of Sean Hannity talking points.  I can get that on Faux News.  As for Mamet, I don&#039;t see how his views on Kennedy or liberalism detract from the very direct allusions to the Bush administration that run rampant through November.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I&#039;m glad to hear Mamet say he&#039;s not a &quot;brain-dead liberal.&quot;  Neither am I; I consider myself to be a pretty goddamn smart liberal, thank you very much.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recitation of Sean Hannity talking points.  I can get that on Faux News.  As for Mamet, I don&#39;t see how his views on Kennedy or liberalism detract from the very direct allusions to the Bush administration that run rampant through November.</p><p>And I&#39;m glad to hear Mamet say he&#39;s not a &#8220;brain-dead liberal.&#8221;  Neither am I; I consider myself to be a pretty goddamn smart liberal, thank you very much.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: eric</title><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/comment-page-1/#comment-12201</link> <dc:creator>eric</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:07:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/#comment-12201</guid> <description>I read the whole Obama speech. A tremendous number of questions are left unanswered. Did Obama ever talk to this father-figure/mentor about his nutty ideas, about white people trying to kill off blacks with the bio-weapon of AIDS? I believe Obama when he says he didn&#039;t hear the pastor say these things in church. Does that mean he really doesn&#039;t attend church that often? What about the possibility of his daughters sitting there and listening to this skewed view of the world? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is ample evidence that Obama knew about the Reverend&#039;s racist views, but still put him on the Obama team. I suppose Obama did the best he could by not totally rejecting the man. Because it would be impossible for him to do so, and -- as you point out -- actually dishonest to do so. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain now leads either Hillary or Obama in the latest polls. Now that the rest of America has seen the kind of hate speech coming out of black pulpits and the way Obama and the Democrats try to excuse it, very real and legitimate doubts are moving people to favor experience and proven grace under pressure over blind hope for questionable change. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And although Obama made a few Reaganesque noises in the speech and speaks of a coming together, in the end (of the speech) it still came down to the same old statist prescriptions that about half of us absolutely do not want. In the end there can be no unity. One or the other side must convince enough of those in the middle to help them defeat their opponents, and the minority will have to grit their teeth and bear it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, just a footnote here on a previous topic, Jon. Did you read Mamet&#039;s recent essay about why he is no longer a &quot;brain-dead liberal&quot;? It seems that his play November actually says (or Mamet intended it to say) something a bit different than what you read into it. One of the choicer quotes: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I found not only that I didn&#039;t trust the current government (that, to me, was no surprise), but that an impartial review revealed that the faults of this presidentâ€”whom I, a good liberal, considered a monsterâ€”were little different from those of a president whom I revered.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Bush got us into Iraq, JFK into Vietnam. Bush stole the election in Florida; Kennedy stole his in Chicago. Bush outed a CIA agent; Kennedy left hundreds of them to die in the surf at the Bay of Pigs. Bush lied about his military service; Kennedy accepted a Pulitzer Prize for a book written by Ted Sorenson. Bush was in bed with the Saudis, Kennedy with the Mafia. Oh.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or perhaps I misread your original reading. I don&#039;t think so. Anyway, my appreciation for Mamet&#039;s work, which was very high before, will be even greater now. He has decided to move toward the light. Hallelujah!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the whole Obama speech. A tremendous number of questions are left unanswered. Did Obama ever talk to this father-figure/mentor about his nutty ideas, about white people trying to kill off blacks with the bio-weapon of AIDS? I believe Obama when he says he didn&#39;t hear the pastor say these things in church. Does that mean he really doesn&#39;t attend church that often? What about the possibility of his daughters sitting there and listening to this skewed view of the world?</p><p>There is ample evidence that Obama knew about the Reverend&#39;s racist views, but still put him on the Obama team. I suppose Obama did the best he could by not totally rejecting the man. Because it would be impossible for him to do so, and &#8212; as you point out &#8212; actually dishonest to do so.</p><p>McCain now leads either Hillary or Obama in the latest polls. Now that the rest of America has seen the kind of hate speech coming out of black pulpits and the way Obama and the Democrats try to excuse it, very real and legitimate doubts are moving people to favor experience and proven grace under pressure over blind hope for questionable change.</p><p>And although Obama made a few Reaganesque noises in the speech and speaks of a coming together, in the end (of the speech) it still came down to the same old statist prescriptions that about half of us absolutely do not want. In the end there can be no unity. One or the other side must convince enough of those in the middle to help them defeat their opponents, and the minority will have to grit their teeth and bear it.</p><p>Finally, just a footnote here on a previous topic, Jon. Did you read Mamet&#39;s recent essay about why he is no longer a &#8220;brain-dead liberal&#8221;? It seems that his play November actually says (or Mamet intended it to say) something a bit different than what you read into it. One of the choicer quotes:</p><p>&#8220;I found not only that I didn&#39;t trust the current government (that, to me, was no surprise), but that an impartial review revealed that the faults of this presidentâ€”whom I, a good liberal, considered a monsterâ€”were little different from those of a president whom I revered.</p><p>&#8220;Bush got us into Iraq, JFK into Vietnam. Bush stole the election in Florida; Kennedy stole his in Chicago. Bush outed a CIA agent; Kennedy left hundreds of them to die in the surf at the Bay of Pigs. Bush lied about his military service; Kennedy accepted a Pulitzer Prize for a book written by Ted Sorenson. Bush was in bed with the Saudis, Kennedy with the Mafia. Oh.&#8221;</p><p>Or perhaps I misread your original reading. I don&#39;t think so. Anyway, my appreciation for Mamet&#39;s work, which was very high before, will be even greater now. He has decided to move toward the light. Hallelujah!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elaine</title><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/comment-page-1/#comment-12200</link> <dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:21:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/#comment-12200</guid> <description>I steadfastly refuse to participate in any of the political posts, but just having seen the headline in my rss feed, I thought I&#039;d chime in that I&#039;ll be hearing Dreams So Real&#039;s &quot;Rough Night in Jericho&quot; for the rest of the day.  That is all.  :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;p.s.  Cool song, so I&#039;m okay with this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I steadfastly refuse to participate in any of the political posts, but just having seen the headline in my rss feed, I thought I&#39;d chime in that I&#39;ll be hearing Dreams So Real&#39;s &#8220;Rough Night in Jericho&#8221; for the rest of the day.  That is all. <img
src='http://popdose.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>p.s.  Cool song, so I&#39;m okay with this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/comment-page-1/#comment-12199</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:30:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/#comment-12199</guid> <description>Agreed--but there&#039;s a huge difference between launching attacks and parrying them.  Another thing Obama will have this summer, which Kerry didn&#039;t have when it became necessary to defend against the Swiftfuckers, is OODLES of money.  Kerry was broke all summer; Obama won&#039;t have that problem.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed&#8211;but there&#39;s a huge difference between launching attacks and parrying them.  Another thing Obama will have this summer, which Kerry didn&#39;t have when it became necessary to defend against the Swiftfuckers, is OODLES of money.  Kerry was broke all summer; Obama won&#39;t have that problem.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DwDunphy</title><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/comment-page-1/#comment-12198</link> <dc:creator>DwDunphy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:10:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/#comment-12198</guid> <description>I sincerely hope so.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look, we all know Kerry was a piss-poor candidate and he ran his campaign like he was giving his lunch money away. But the Swiftboaters took a non-starter and turned it into a full blown controversy. Obama does indeed try to counter fast and not let things fester quietly, but I&#039;ll be disappointed if I start seeing those particular tactics employed too liberally.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sincerely hope so.</p><p>Look, we all know Kerry was a piss-poor candidate and he ran his campaign like he was giving his lunch money away. But the Swiftboaters took a non-starter and turned it into a full blown controversy. Obama does indeed try to counter fast and not let things fester quietly, but I&#39;ll be disappointed if I start seeing those particular tactics employed too liberally.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/comment-page-1/#comment-12197</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:47:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/political-culture-jericho-walls-come-tumbling-downagain/#comment-12197</guid> <description>Me, too.  I will say one thing, which is that Obama seems to have learned the lessons from John Kerry&#039;s experience, and never seems to let any accusation/criticism go unanswered within a single news cycle.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Apart from that, it seems the only thing for him to do is ride this out and see where things stand in a couple of weeks.  I&#039;m having a seriously hard time believing this will still be a big story in the summer or fall--and anyone who drifts away from him on this issue probably would have found some other reason to do it anyway before November.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You know what I found fascinating?  The episode of the HBO series In Treatment that aired on Tuesday night (right after Obama&#039;s speech) featured an elderly African-American man going on a brief tirade about how he&#039;ll never be able to get over all the injustices this country has visited on blacks people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I tend to believe that, as with many things related to Obama&#039;s candidacy, this will likely boil down to a generational issue--both in terms of Wright&#039;s perspective vs. Obama&#039;s, and in terms of the way voters respond to all these events.  I don&#039;t find that fact terribly encouraging for his electoral prospects, considering that seniors vote in much larger numbers than anyone else, but I do think that younger voters will cast this issue aside rather quickly.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me, too.  I will say one thing, which is that Obama seems to have learned the lessons from John Kerry&#39;s experience, and never seems to let any accusation/criticism go unanswered within a single news cycle.</p><p>Apart from that, it seems the only thing for him to do is ride this out and see where things stand in a couple of weeks.  I&#39;m having a seriously hard time believing this will still be a big story in the summer or fall&#8211;and anyone who drifts away from him on this issue probably would have found some other reason to do it anyway before November.</p><p>You know what I found fascinating?  The episode of the HBO series In Treatment that aired on Tuesday night (right after Obama&#39;s speech) featured an elderly African-American man going on a brief tirade about how he&#39;ll never be able to get over all the injustices this country has visited on blacks people.</p><p>I tend to believe that, as with many things related to Obama&#39;s candidacy, this will likely boil down to a generational issue&#8211;both in terms of Wright&#39;s perspective vs. Obama&#39;s, and in terms of the way voters respond to all these events.  I don&#39;t find that fact terribly encouraging for his electoral prospects, considering that seniors vote in much larger numbers than anyone else, but I do think that younger voters will cast this issue aside rather quickly.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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