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	<title>Comments on: Political Culture: Keep Marriage Gay in CA!</title>
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		<title>By: annu283</title>
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		<dc:creator>annu283</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: A good Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>A good Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jefito, he was right and backed by the majority of the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jefito, he was right and backed by the majority of the people.</p>
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		<title>By: A good Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>A good Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THe Public has spoken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THe Public has spoken</p>
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		<title>By: jefito</title>
		<link>http://popdose.com/political-culture-keep-marriage-gay-in-ca/comment-page-1/#comment-21067</link>
		<dc:creator>jefito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thirty years from now, children will read about people like you in their textbooks and wonder what the hell was wrong with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thirty years from now, children will read about people like you in their textbooks and wonder what the hell was wrong with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse O. Kurtz </title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse O. Kurtz </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are way off and you lost at the polls.   You homosexuals have civil unions.   Marriage is not and cannot be reinvented.  Marriage is the union of one man and one woman, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are way off and you lost at the polls.   You homosexuals have civil unions.   Marriage is not and cannot be reinvented.  Marriage is the union of one man and one woman, period.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Jon!  To me, it seems this battle is over the term &quot;marriage,&quot; and not the legal aspects of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Jon!  To me, it seems this battle is over the term &#8220;marriage,&#8221; and not the legal aspects of it.</p>
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		<title>By: arensb</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;settling instead for recognizing â€œunionsâ€ for both gays and straights? If we do that, then is â€œmarriageâ€ a status reserved for church members, thus excluding from the institution not only the fraction of the population that is gay, but also the growing percentage of married couples (like my wife and myself) who were not married in a church and/or are generally â€œunchurchedâ€?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IMHO this is a question best left to society as a whole, and out of government.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is, let&#039;s say government gets out of the &quot;marriage&quot; business altogether, and starts issuing licenses for &quot;unions&quot; (a contract that confers certain rights and responsibilities) between any two consenting adults.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It will then be up to society to decide which unions are marriages and which aren&#039;t. If Bob and Janet have a church ceremony in which they declare their undying love and devotion to each other, and sign a union certificate, it won&#039;t be hard to convince people that Bob and Janet are married.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Peter and Sarah do the same thing, but in a public park with a JP instead of a church and minister, there&#039;ll be some people who&#039;ll deny that they&#039;re really married, but it&#039;ll still be an easy sell in most cases.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Sam and Max have been living together for five years, and eventually formalize their relationship with a public ceremony, people will probably be evenly split over whether their legal union is a real marriage.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Britney and Jason get drunk in Las Vegas and wake up the next morning with a signed union certificate, well, it&#039;s up to them and the rest of us to decide whether it should be called a marriage or not.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The boundaries will shift as society fluctuates between liberalism and conservatism. Though I think the overall trend would be toward liberalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>settling instead for recognizing â€œunionsâ€ for both gays and straights? If we do that, then is â€œmarriageâ€ a status reserved for church members, thus excluding from the institution not only the fraction of the population that is gay, but also the growing percentage of married couples (like my wife and myself) who were not married in a church and/or are generally â€œunchurchedâ€?</p></blockquote>
<p>IMHO this is a question best left to society as a whole, and out of government.</p>
<p>That is, let&#39;s say government gets out of the &#8220;marriage&#8221; business altogether, and starts issuing licenses for &#8220;unions&#8221; (a contract that confers certain rights and responsibilities) between any two consenting adults.</p>
<p>It will then be up to society to decide which unions are marriages and which aren&#39;t. If Bob and Janet have a church ceremony in which they declare their undying love and devotion to each other, and sign a union certificate, it won&#39;t be hard to convince people that Bob and Janet are married.</p>
<p>If Peter and Sarah do the same thing, but in a public park with a JP instead of a church and minister, there&#39;ll be some people who&#39;ll deny that they&#39;re really married, but it&#39;ll still be an easy sell in most cases.</p>
<p>If Sam and Max have been living together for five years, and eventually formalize their relationship with a public ceremony, people will probably be evenly split over whether their legal union is a real marriage.</p>
<p>If Britney and Jason get drunk in Las Vegas and wake up the next morning with a signed union certificate, well, it&#39;s up to them and the rest of us to decide whether it should be called a marriage or not.</p>
<p>The boundaries will shift as society fluctuates between liberalism and conservatism. Though I think the overall trend would be toward liberalism.</p>
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