Comments on: Political Culture: Shall We Plunge the Sword In? http://popdose.com/political-culture-shall-we-plunge-the-sword-in/ your daily dose of pop culture Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Old_Davyhttp://popdose.com/political-culture-shall-we-plunge-the-sword-in/comment-page-1/#comment-53713 Old_Davy Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:23:48 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=10379#comment-53713 APP reference alert!<br><br>Who wants to bet that when W flies out of DC for the last time, the woman beside him will not be Laura, but rather Condi Rice? Scandalous! APP reference alert!

Who wants to bet that when W flies out of DC for the last time, the woman beside him will not be Laura, but rather Condi Rice? Scandalous!

]]> By: standing_damagedhttp://popdose.com/political-culture-shall-we-plunge-the-sword-in/comment-page-1/#comment-53714 standing_damaged Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:07:46 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=10379#comment-53714 I've been reading nothing but excuses and justifications for this 11th century feudalist mess since about - oh - early December. change.gov's #1 question SHOWS the public (or at least that portion that participates) wants some accountability.<br> BUT - since as Zappa so honestly said - what with politics being the entertainment branch of big business - we can't afford to let our entertainers face the law the way us peasants do, they're gonna walk. <br>And most people, rather than admit they've been assraped by 'Lords need not face the Law the peasants do' Elizabeth Bathory nonsense, will swallow, pretend they're 'bigger than that' and allow themselves to be cuffed, stuffed, pillaged and try to act as if they approve.<br>Just ponder this tho, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and poppybush were connected to Nixon, who walked before his crimes made it to impeachment and was then pardoned,'so the country could heal'.So we got Carter who tryed to make things equal and was brought down by the powers that be, remember 20%+ interest with NO justification for it? I do.. And we got Reagan - sockpuppet for poppybush<br>Clinton 'looked forward' and allowed those selfsame Iran Contra FELONS to go unpunished.... and we got Gollum W - NOW<br>ask yourself, what is to stop these evil bastards from deciding to schmaltz this thru and bring up another sockpuppet for the powers that be in a season or 2? I mean it's not like they face consequences or even true exposure.<br>So when I hit the Rez and my bloods tell me, why do you try? It's obvious they have 3 sets if rules, shit brah party.' <br>Or I hang with some inner city kidz who KNOW if they deal enuff they can BUY their way out of trouble with the man...and point out these kinds of people walkin cause they have money power pull and connections, or they point to Madoff STILL getting nothing but house arrest after ADMITTING to STEALING Billions...<br>How do I LIE to them and tell them participatory Democracy is what makes us better and stronger and more superior than any other nation or system?<br>Justice?<br>lol<br>just us<br>SD I've been reading nothing but excuses and justifications for this 11th century feudalist mess since about – oh – early December. change.gov's #1 question SHOWS the public (or at least that portion that participates) wants some accountability.
BUT – since as Zappa so honestly said – what with politics being the entertainment branch of big business – we can't afford to let our entertainers face the law the way us peasants do, they're gonna walk.
And most people, rather than admit they've been assraped by 'Lords need not face the Law the peasants do' Elizabeth Bathory nonsense, will swallow, pretend they're 'bigger than that' and allow themselves to be cuffed, stuffed, pillaged and try to act as if they approve.
Just ponder this tho, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and poppybush were connected to Nixon, who walked before his crimes made it to impeachment and was then pardoned,'so the country could heal'.So we got Carter who tryed to make things equal and was brought down by the powers that be, remember 20%+ interest with NO justification for it? I do.. And we got Reagan – sockpuppet for poppybush
Clinton 'looked forward' and allowed those selfsame Iran Contra FELONS to go unpunished…. and we got Gollum W – NOW
ask yourself, what is to stop these evil bastards from deciding to schmaltz this thru and bring up another sockpuppet for the powers that be in a season or 2? I mean it's not like they face consequences or even true exposure.
So when I hit the Rez and my bloods tell me, why do you try? It's obvious they have 3 sets if rules, shit brah party.'
Or I hang with some inner city kidz who KNOW if they deal enuff they can BUY their way out of trouble with the man…and point out these kinds of people walkin cause they have money power pull and connections, or they point to Madoff STILL getting nothing but house arrest after ADMITTING to STEALING Billions…
How do I LIE to them and tell them participatory Democracy is what makes us better and stronger and more superior than any other nation or system?
Justice?
lol
just us
SD

]]> By: Old_Davyhttp://popdose.com/political-culture-shall-we-plunge-the-sword-in/comment-page-1/#comment-41050 Old_Davy Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:23:48 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=10379#comment-41050 APP reference alert!<br><br>Who wants to bet that when W flies out of DC for the last time, the woman beside him will not be Laura, but rather Condi Rice? Scandalous! APP reference alert!

Who wants to bet that when W flies out of DC for the last time, the woman beside him will not be Laura, but rather Condi Rice? Scandalous!

]]> By: Old_Davyhttp://popdose.com/political-culture-shall-we-plunge-the-sword-in/comment-page-1/#comment-15405 Old_Davy Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:23:48 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=10379#comment-15405 APP reference alert!<br><br>Who wants to bet that when W flies out of DC for the last time, the woman beside him will not be Laura, but rather Condi Rice? Scandalous! APP reference alert!

Who wants to bet that when W flies out of DC for the last time, the woman beside him will not be Laura, but rather Condi Rice? Scandalous!

]]> By: standing_damagedhttp://popdose.com/political-culture-shall-we-plunge-the-sword-in/comment-page-1/#comment-15406 standing_damaged Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:07:46 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=10379#comment-15406 I've been reading nothing but excuses and justifications for this 11th century feudalist mess since about - oh - early December. change.gov's #1 question SHOWS the public (or at least that portion that participates) wants some accountability.<br> BUT - since as Zappa so honestly said - what with politics being the entertainment branch of big business - we can't afford to let our entertainers face the law the way us peasants do, they're gonna walk. <br>And most people, rather than admit they've been assraped by 'Lords need not face the Law the peasants do' Elizabeth Bathory nonsense, will swallow, pretend they're 'bigger than that' and allow themselves to be cuffed, stuffed, pillaged and try to act as if they approve.<br>Just ponder this tho, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and poppybush were connected to Nixon, who walked before his crimes made it to impeachment and was then pardoned,'so the country could heal'.So we got Carter who tryed to make things equal and was brought down by the powers that be, remember 20%+ interest with NO justification for it? I do.. And we got Reagan - sockpuppet for poppybush<br>Clinton 'looked forward' and allowed those selfsame Iran Contra FELONS to go unpunished.... and we got Gollum W - NOW<br>ask yourself, what is to stop these evil bastards from deciding to schmaltz this thru and bring up another sockpuppet for the powers that be in a season or 2? I mean it's not like they face consequences or even true exposure.<br>So when I hit the Rez and my bloods tell me, why do you try? It's obvious they have 3 sets if rules, shit brah party.' <br>Or I hang with some inner city kidz who KNOW if they deal enuff they can BUY their way out of trouble with the man...and point out these kinds of people walkin cause they have money power pull and connections, or they point to Madoff STILL getting nothing but house arrest after ADMITTING to STEALING Billions...<br>How do I LIE to them and tell them participatory Democracy is what makes us better and stronger and more superior than any other nation or system?<br>Justice?<br>lol<br>just us<br>SD I've been reading nothing but excuses and justifications for this 11th century feudalist mess since about – oh – early December. change.gov's #1 question SHOWS the public (or at least that portion that participates) wants some accountability.
BUT – since as Zappa so honestly said – what with politics being the entertainment branch of big business – we can't afford to let our entertainers face the law the way us peasants do, they're gonna walk.
And most people, rather than admit they've been assraped by 'Lords need not face the Law the peasants do' Elizabeth Bathory nonsense, will swallow, pretend they're 'bigger than that' and allow themselves to be cuffed, stuffed, pillaged and try to act as if they approve.
Just ponder this tho, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and poppybush were connected to Nixon, who walked before his crimes made it to impeachment and was then pardoned,'so the country could heal'.So we got Carter who tryed to make things equal and was brought down by the powers that be, remember 20%+ interest with NO justification for it? I do.. And we got Reagan – sockpuppet for poppybush
Clinton 'looked forward' and allowed those selfsame Iran Contra FELONS to go unpunished…. and we got Gollum W – NOW
ask yourself, what is to stop these evil bastards from deciding to schmaltz this thru and bring up another sockpuppet for the powers that be in a season or 2? I mean it's not like they face consequences or even true exposure.
So when I hit the Rez and my bloods tell me, why do you try? It's obvious they have 3 sets if rules, shit brah party.'
Or I hang with some inner city kidz who KNOW if they deal enuff they can BUY their way out of trouble with the man…and point out these kinds of people walkin cause they have money power pull and connections, or they point to Madoff STILL getting nothing but house arrest after ADMITTING to STEALING Billions…
How do I LIE to them and tell them participatory Democracy is what makes us better and stronger and more superior than any other nation or system?
Justice?
lol
just us
SD

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/political-culture-shall-we-plunge-the-sword-in/comment-page-1/#comment-15404 DwDunphy Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:05:45 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=10379#comment-15404 Besides, Bush surrounded himself with yes-men with no true allegiance to him, despite what everyone may think. Here are people that rolled over their personal beliefs and ideologies to stay close to the seat of power. Now that he's not in the seat of power, what's to stop them from rolling over him to either absolve themselves or to sweeten their book deal?<br><br>The answer to that is - nothing. So the irony probably will be that the country, and the world, was plunged into financial chaos due to Bush's credo for everything the market will bear. It will be another market, and not Obama, that will dig up dirt and splay it all out for everyone to see... A market that probably will demand much seedier, salacious tidbits than politicos would be comfortable with exposing.<br><br>So when it comes to Dubya, odds are that when you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. Besides, Bush surrounded himself with yes-men with no true allegiance to him, despite what everyone may think. Here are people that rolled over their personal beliefs and ideologies to stay close to the seat of power. Now that he's not in the seat of power, what's to stop them from rolling over him to either absolve themselves or to sweeten their book deal?

The answer to that is – nothing. So the irony probably will be that the country, and the world, was plunged into financial chaos due to Bush's credo for everything the market will bear. It will be another market, and not Obama, that will dig up dirt and splay it all out for everyone to see… A market that probably will demand much seedier, salacious tidbits than politicos would be comfortable with exposing.

So when it comes to Dubya, odds are that when you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas.

]]> By: Tedhttp://popdose.com/political-culture-shall-we-plunge-the-sword-in/comment-page-1/#comment-15403 Ted Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:44:18 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=10379#comment-15403 Because politics is about priorities, and you only have so much political capital to spend, the "window of opportunity" for an Administration to act is pretty slim. I'm sure Obama would like the right the wrongs on the crimes Bush and Co. have committed, but the recession is the bull to fight right now. Because politics is about priorities, and you only have so much political capital to spend, the “window of opportunity” for an Administration to act is pretty slim. I'm sure Obama would like the right the wrongs on the crimes Bush and Co. have committed, but the recession is the bull to fight right now.

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/political-culture-shall-we-plunge-the-sword-in/comment-page-1/#comment-15402 DwDunphy Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:56:10 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=10379#comment-15402 My feeling, intuiting the last few speeches Obama has made, is that the last thing the new administration is interested in is investigating the old one. I don't mean this as a case of Obama whitewashing the situation, mind you, but the general flavor I'm getting is a "we have too much to do to divert our attention elsewhere" sort. <br><br>Now, the Demo-critics will immediately jump up saying, "Because he doesn't want others investigating him in return" while the party faithful will agree that the financial crisis supersedes everything, including what might be convictable war crimes. Regardless of the taken tack, those who want to see the bull eviscerated (take that any way you want) are going to be disappointed. While we believe Obama's politics will be much more effective for the nation, they're still politics, so we have to be clear-eyed about it. My feeling, intuiting the last few speeches Obama has made, is that the last thing the new administration is interested in is investigating the old one. I don't mean this as a case of Obama whitewashing the situation, mind you, but the general flavor I'm getting is a “we have too much to do to divert our attention elsewhere” sort.

Now, the Demo-critics will immediately jump up saying, “Because he doesn't want others investigating him in return” while the party faithful will agree that the financial crisis supersedes everything, including what might be convictable war crimes. Regardless of the taken tack, those who want to see the bull eviscerated (take that any way you want) are going to be disappointed. While we believe Obama's politics will be much more effective for the nation, they're still politics, so we have to be clear-eyed about it.

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