Political Culture: The Lipstick … and the Pig

Jon Cummings September 15, 2008 29

J. Howard Marshall and the love of his end-of-life, Anna Nicole Smith
John McCain and Sarah Palin enjoy a light moment on the campaign trail, between feedings.

From yesterday’s New York Times: “Laura Chase, the campaign manager during Ms. Palin’s first run for mayor in 1996, recalled the night the two women chatted about her ambitions. ‘I said, ‘You know, Sarah, within 10 years you could be governor,’ Ms. Chase recalled. ‘She replied, ‘I want to be president.’”

Discuss.

  • http://thevitaminkid.blogspot.com autodidact

    Discuss.

    1. The Looking For Truthtellers blog pointed me to a recent Michael Barone column where he opines, “For more than a week we've seen the No. 1 person on the Democratic ticket argue that he's better prepared than the No. 2 person on the Republican ticket. That's not a winning argument even if you win it. ” LOL.

    2. I would like to believe that Sarah Palin really wants to reform Washington. I'm not sure I do quite yet. We don't need mere reform. It's gone beyond that. Every nook and cranny of government, in every branch, needs a proctoscope exam. There's a lot of effluvia clogging the system. Oh, I forgot. Sarah will be serving at McCain's pleasure. He'll call the shots. Still, it would be good to have a non-beltway voice in the Oval Office. By the time she gets her shot at the Presidency will she have been in D.C. too long, i.e. will she have gone native?

    3. Can she be President? There are many people praying for it. The truth is, our country needs a miracle. I don't think Sarah Palin is that miracle, but she looks better to me than many other alternatives. She appears to have an Iron Lady sort of constitution. I know that horrifies the left. I can't help but support anything that horrifies the left.

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    McCain's apparently unquenchable thirst for war horrifies me. I hope we can at least agree on that much.

  • JonCummings

    The first point above is a good one–I recently heard someone say that the Democrats “defeated Spiro Agnew and Dan Quayle, but they couldn't beat Richard Nixon and George Bush.” But beyond all the GOP bullshit about Democrats “dismissing Sarah Palin as good-looking,” the real point here is that any evidence showing how unqualified Palin is actually SHOULD reflect badly on McCain for his stupidity and dishonor in choosing someone so unqualified for the VP slot.

    The only questions are, can the Dems make sure to turn every criticism of Palin in McCain's direction, and are Americans smart enough to make the connection? So far, the answer to both questions is no. The Dems can fix the first problem…the second is a bigger challence.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    No time to worry about the war pigs. I'm trying to find a way to pull my retirement market accounts out before the Dow drops any lower.

    Screwed? Uh. Yup.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    McCain is smart in one respect. He picked someone who is essentially criticism-proof. Any negative mojo thrown at Palin gets tossed off with the assertion that the questioner was sexist. So what Obama needs to do is get arch enemies Mrs. O and Mrs. Clinton to call a truce so they can chew out Sarah, then let him handle McCain on solid footing.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    Oh, and “fight, fight, fight, never stop fighting.”

  • http://www.popdose.com Zack

    They'll drive the “sexism” thing into the ground the same way they've done with the “POW” thing – they're getting started already. One of the McCain surrogates just today called Tina Fey http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/15/carly-fiorina-criticizes_n_126533.html rel=”nofollow”>sexist.

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    They meant “sexiest”… Rrrrowww!!

    I'm sorry. The last comment was terribly sexist.

  • jenny

    She's got a lot of nerve dreaming that she wants to be President. What next, women getting equal pay? The gall of this woman……

  • Steve M

    Just shift your investments to Haliburton, Bechtel, etc. More war can only mean good things for their stocks.

  • JonCummings

    That's fine, Jenny–every girl should dream–but if you want to be president someday, shouldn't you do some of the things that might…you know…QUALIFY you to run for president? Like keep up with current events, even?

  • http://www.popdose.com Ted

    I would imagine Sarah's presidential aspirations are pretty much the same as other career-track politicians. You now, they look in the mirror each morning and say: “Good morning, Mr. (or Mrs.) President.”

  • Lady Zhara

    I don't really care about Palin's alleged ambition.

    I would like to see Steve Schmidt's career ended (BURIED) in as quick and brutal a manner as possible. Woe be anyone who gets in the way.

  • http://thevitaminkid.blogspot.com autodidact

    They said the same thing about Reagan. But I believe his strength on defense led to a more peaceful world. Given that both McCain and Palin have sons who have served or are serving in the military, in the area of operations, it's hard for me to believe that their thirst for war is “unquenchable.” They have a stake in peace, but if hostilities continue, they could not be criticized for insulating their families from the effects.

    Again, Reagan talked tough to Russia, too. And he was painted by some as a monster who wanted to start nuclear WWIII. That was not his intent, and that was not the result. Perhaps I'm too optimistic about McCain, but I feel he would strategically apply tough talk with similarly effective results.

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    A lot of the righties I talk to express a similar optimism, or desperate need to believe McCain is just gaming the electorate in order to win the election, at which point he'll revert to his old “maverick” form. Interesting how this is the same crowd whooping it up about Obama's hope-based campaign.

  • jenny

    Newsflash – she's a governor. FYI – there's only 50 folks in the country who have that much executive responsibility. Alaska has a GDP of almost 40 BILLION dollars. That's bigger than over a hundred countries in the world. Not qualified, give me a break. Sexism lives.

    She's the only person on the ticket with executive experience. Fact.

  • JonCummings

    Jenny, your “sexism” complaints are an absolute joke–even more so than your ludicrous claims about Palin's experience. The entire world is laughing at you Republicans and your “suddenly we're feminists if it will win Hillary voters” schtick. Where was your feminism when Democrats were trying to get the ERA into the Constitution, or at any other of the many moments in history when Republicans blocked equal pay and other women's rights?

    As of this week, with financial institutions in the tank and McCain spinning furiously to cover up his own stated belief that “the fundamentals of the economy are strong” (duh, I meant that the people are the fundamentals…don't Democrats support the people? duh…), this election has gotten way too serious for Sarah Palin (or McCain's tattered credibility) to be taken seriously. But as long as we're trading facts about Palin's “experience” (quotation marks necessary), here's one for you: On July 21, when Obama traveled from Iraq to Jordan to Israel (and had substantive meetings with each nation's head of state), he set foot in more nations outside North America than Palin has in her entire life. And by the way, he did it again three days later (Germany to Paris to London).

  • jenny

    Jon, your assumption that I'm a Republican is wrong, and secondly, your obvious hate for them is immature and shows in your writing and comments. Lose some of the disgust and immaturity and you'll come off more credible, trust me.

    So now foreign travel is your gauge for experience? Even if that mattered so much – how do you know where Palin has traveled in her life? Since you know every country she's been to in her life and oviously have proof, please reference it – thanks.

    I do know she's been to Kuwait and Iraq, and I'd have to check but it's likely she went before Obama did (or I should say before he was pressured into going).

    Secondly, again, Alaska has a GDP of 40 BILLION dollars which is more than 120+ countries – sovereign countries – in the world (you conveniently forgot to address that). She is the top executive. Obama has no executive experience – none!!!! Care to comment on that?

    You seem to take the approach that only folks who have had their name in the media or are commonly known can be on a ticket. Palin? Who's Palin? Never heard of her, so how could she be qualified? As if media coverage of someone at a country level makes them qualified. There's so many things wrong with that approach I don't know where to start. I take the approach that there are tons of people in the pool of 300 million Ameircans who could lead us well – most of whom are not known to us. That's what government “by the people” is all about. If the only people qualified are the ones with name recognition or who are currently in Congress (yeah, THAT Congress – the one with 27% approval – lower than Bush) then I truly believe there's no hope for our country.

    Of the 4 people on the ticket, the only one who is not a Senator is Palin. She's the only one I trust. Anyone from Congress can go to hell as far as I'm concerned, they're part fo the problem.

  • JonCummings

    I don't loathe Republicans, I loathe Republican politics and ideas because they've been destroying my country for more than a decade and they promise more of nothing but the same. And god, I hope I come across as immature–for fuck's sake, I write a political column for people who ignore it and read about has-been musicians instead, and in case you hadn't noticed above, I put up a picture of Anna Nicole Smith and said it was Sarah Palin!

    Do you have any idea how many people these days swear they're not Republicans?

  • jenny

    fine Jon. You still haven't addressed that fact that she leads an economy bigger than 120 countries, you still can't prove your supposed knowledge that she's never traveled anywhere, and you still have no comments on that fact that Obama has zero, nil, executive experience. I understand this is a music blog – it's one of the best actually and they run the gamut from shitty to great, but as far as politics every time they try they robotically pander to the same tired poop. Tired and all too predictable.

  • JonCummings

    Your “economic” aren't really worth commenting on, but here goes: Alaska's economy, according to this page (http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/07/06/135…), is about the same as that of Belarus. Whew! THAT's a relief! At least our potential future vice president could “lead” an economy the size of a former Soviet republic!!!!! (And she'd probably “lead” it into the ground, if the current state of Republican economy-”leading” is any indication.) Any FIRST-WORLD nations you'd like to put Palin in charge of? (BTW, the capital of Belarus is Minsk, which I believe is where John McCain said he would place his most trusted economic advisor, Phil Gramm, after Gramm called us a “nation of whiners” in a “mental recession.” How did that turn out?)

    And this article (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008…) details how Palin and the McCain campaign have exaggerated the details of her single (ever!) overseas trip. She claimed to have gone to Germany, Kuwait, the “Iraqi battle zone,” and Ireland. Well, the first two stops actually happened–but she never got past the Kuwait-Iraq border into Iraqi territory, much less into a “battle zone,” and it also was revealed that the Ireland stop was just for refueling the plane.

    I don't think Palin's foreign-travel itinerary is a major campaign issue any more than anyone else does–just as there is no actual fact in the world that would make Palin qualified for the vice presidency right now. But if she and the McCain campaign think her travel is important enough to blatantly lie about–the same way they've lied about the Bridge to Nowhere, her lust for earmarks, and who knows what else–then it's worth calling them on it.

    Oh, and here's the thing, Jenny–I don't really give a rat's ass about the fact that Obama has “no executive experience.” He's a U.S. Senator, and a very smart man with very good ideas about where to take the country. By the way, he's been the chief executive of a presidential campaign for pretty much exactly the same amount of time that Palin's been governor of Alaska, and I'd say Obama's done a pretty goddamn good job of it. McCain's got “no executive experience,” either, so your argument only takes you so far unless Palin winds up running the country–in which case, heaven help us.

    “Robotically pander to the same tired poop.” That is a cute–though utterly meaningless–phrase. Congratulations. I'm going to try to work that into the logo for my column.

  • jenny

    I'm glad you enjoyed my phrase Jon, I do have a way with words sometimes. Insulting Belarus will get you nowhere, and it's still a fact that managing an economy bigger than 120 countries is something no one else on the ticket has done. I'd like to see you try.

    You bring up Palin's earmark requests, yes she had millions. But not nearly as many as Obama and Biden, who both had literally hundreds of millions. And how many did McCain have – none. Zero. Zilch. Multiple news agencies have done the fact-checking, look it up. McCain will win on that alone. He's holding it as an ace up his sleeve.

    And to respond to “Oh, and here's the thing, Jenny–I don't really give a rat's ass about the fact that Obama has “no executive experience.” He's a U.S. Senator”

    And there lies the problem.

    He's a U.S. Senator, as is Biden, as is McCain. I hope you do realize that is not a compliment – you DO don't you? It's actually an insult, you just insulted the man while telling the truth. Which is why I'm not voting for any of 'em. Our country won't get on the right track until we have term limits and folks like Biden & McCain who couldn't be more out of touch w/regular folks (30+ years in the Senate!!!) go away. They're just in business to get themselves re-elected. Sick. The President isn't the problem Jon, it's Congress. Whether it's controlled by R or D, they make the laws, they request the earmarks, they are the power.

    As I mentioned in my previous comment, we need more unknown candidates like Palin who have some experience and who, most importantly are not already in Congress. Because you are already tainted and compromised by greed & corruption when you are in Congress. Whether it's Obama's earmarks and flip-flopping on his 'change' about refusing public campaign financing, or McCain's seven houses (or is it nine?).

  • JonCummings

    Whatever. I choose not to share your opinion about Congress automatically corrupting everyone in it to the point where nothing they say or do can be trusted. I simply choose not to be that cynical. We have a system of governance, and while every branch of it certainly needs profound improvement (“the president isn't the problem”? REALLY????), I'd rather fight to hold those who operate in it to a higher standard than cynically turn my back and reject it out of hand. “A pox on both your houses (of Congress)” won't get anything done.

    I also choose not to subscribe to the theory that every single earmark is bad or worthless or evidence of corruption. An “earmark” is merely a budgetary item that originates with an individual legislator, not with the executive branch. But even those earmarks that are actually for well-intentioned, worthwhile projects are suspect because of the PROCESS by which they are included in bills, often out of public view and with little to no opportunity for debate.

    A new process must be created by which such projects are exposed to daylight and debated openly, if necessary; when an earmark IS bad or worthless or corrupt, it should be eliminated from the budget, either via a legislative mechanism that needs to be implemented or via a line-item veto, which I support on a limited basis.

    Wikipedia notes: “The total congressional earmarks for fiscal year 2008 numbered 11,780, worth $18.3 billion … Citizens Against Government Waste identified 2,658 of the FY08 earmarks, representing $13.2 billion, as 'Pork Projects,' significantly lower than the numbers and dollar amounts of recent prior years.” So, while a watchdog group says most of the MONEY spent on earmarks is “pork,” less than a quarter of the NUMBER of all such projects are not worthwhile. Find a way to eliminate a relatively small fraction of earmarks, and you'll save most of the total money currently allocated to them–and you'll also save a large number of worthwhile projects.

    Comparing numbers or dollar amounts of earmarks requested or inserted by Palin, Obama or Biden is a red herring (though Palin's again simply lying about it in order to burnish her credentials as a McCain-alike). McCain's obsession with them only LOOKS like the stalwart position of a “maverick” “reformer.” It's really just another way of implementing the arch-conservative principle that government shouldn't actually DO anything much, or raise or spend much. It's an ideological stance, not a reformist one.

    I agree that the process by which such funding gets passed into law needs to be changed dramatically, and that new mechanisms must be implemented to weed out worthless or corrupt projects. But I don't agree that there should be no mechanism by which individual legislators can insert worthwhile projects into funding bills. By the way, the Constitution agrees with me (Article 1, Section 9)–and an attempt by McCain or anyone else to eliminate earmarks entirely, by vetoing every one that comes across his desk, might not stand up to a court challenge.

    As for Palin's economic prowess, I'm waiting for you to delineate exactly how she “leads an economy” in Alaska in a way that's so frickin' difficult that you'd “like to see me try.” What, precisely, is a governor's role in “leading an economy,” beyond submitting budget requests that are developed for her/him by the various government agencies, and then working with the legislature to get them passed? That sounds like politics & governing, not exactly Keynesian economic theory (or Carly Fiorina-level management, if one of McCain's own stuck-up surrogates is to be believed).

    I mean, I suppose I only went to one university, not six–and I only went to one other university to get a master's degree–but honestly, when your pitch for Palin's brilliance gets to the point where you're issuing schoolyard challenges like “I'd like to see you try,” you might want to re-examine.

    Good luck with whomever you vote for…or don't vote for. Ross Perot's still alive, isn't he? Maybe if you round up everybody who agrees with you to write his name in on your ballots…

  • jenny

    I never called her brilliant, just said the fact – she's the only one with executive experience. And the only one not in Congress, a huge plus.

    I'm not the only one who thinks like that . Even though I won't vote for McCain, most will an he will likely win. I can't wait to see your angry hateful rants after McCain wins. I know it's inevitable, but he won't have my support.

  • JonCummings

    Well, come back in 49 days. I'm guessing you'll be disappointed either way.

  • JonCummings

    Well, come back in 49 days. I'm guessing you'll be disappointed either way.

  • JonCummings

    Whatever. I choose not to share your opinion about Congress automatically corrupting everyone in it to the point where nothing they say or do can be trusted. I simply choose not to be that cynical. We have a system of governance, and while every branch of it certainly needs profound improvement (“the president isn't the problem”? REALLY????), I'd rather fight to hold those who operate in it to a higher standard than cynically turn my back and reject it out of hand. “A pox on both your houses (of Congress)” won't get anything done.

    I also choose not to subscribe to the theory that every single earmark is bad or worthless or evidence of corruption. An “earmark” is merely a budgetary item that originates with an individual legislator, not with the executive branch. But even those earmarks that are actually for well-intentioned, worthwhile projects are suspect because of the PROCESS by which they are included in bills, often out of public view and with little to no opportunity for debate.

    A new process must be created by which such projects are exposed to daylight and debated openly, if necessary; when an earmark IS bad or worthless or corrupt, it should be eliminated from the budget, either via a legislative mechanism that needs to be implemented or via a line-item veto, which I support on a limited basis.

    Wikipedia notes: “The total congressional earmarks for fiscal year 2008 numbered 11,780, worth $18.3 billion … Citizens Against Government Waste identified 2,658 of the FY08 earmarks, representing $13.2 billion, as 'Pork Projects,' significantly lower than the numbers and dollar amounts of recent prior years.” So, while a watchdog group says most of the MONEY spent on earmarks is “pork,” less than a quarter of the NUMBER of all such projects are not worthwhile. Find a way to eliminate a relatively small fraction of earmarks, and you'll save most of the total money currently allocated to them–and you'll also save a large number of worthwhile projects.

    Comparing numbers or dollar amounts of earmarks requested or inserted by Palin, Obama or Biden is a red herring (though Palin's again simply lying about it in order to burnish her credentials as a McCain-alike). McCain's obsession with them only LOOKS like the stalwart position of a “maverick” “reformer.” It's really just another way of implementing the arch-conservative principle that government shouldn't actually DO anything much, or raise or spend much. It's an ideological stance, not a reformist one.

    I agree that the process by which such funding gets passed into law needs to be changed dramatically, and that new mechanisms must be implemented to weed out worthless or corrupt projects. But I don't agree that there should be no mechanism by which individual legislators can insert worthwhile projects into funding bills. By the way, the Constitution agrees with me (Article 1, Section 9)–and an attempt by McCain or anyone else to eliminate earmarks entirely, by vetoing every one that comes across his desk, might not stand up to a court challenge.

    As for Palin's economic prowess, I'm waiting for you to delineate exactly how she “leads an economy” in Alaska in a way that's so frickin' difficult that you'd “like to see me try.” What, precisely, is a governor's role in “leading an economy,” beyond submitting budget requests that are developed for her/him by the various government agencies, and then working with the legislature to get them passed? That sounds like politics & governing, not exactly Keynesian economic theory (or Carly Fiorina-level management, if one of McCain's own stuck-up surrogates is to be believed).

    I mean, I suppose I only went to one university, not six–and I only went to one other university to get a master's degree–but honestly, when your pitch for Palin's brilliance gets to the point where you're issuing schoolyard challenges like “I'd like to see you try,” you might want to re-examine.

    Good luck with whomever you vote for…or don't vote for. Ross Perot's still alive, isn't he? Maybe if you round up everybody who agrees with you to write his name in on your ballots…

  • jenny

    I never called her brilliant, just said the fact – she's the only one with executive experience. And the only one not in Congress, a huge plus.

    I'm not the only one who thinks like that . Even though I won't vote for McCain, most will an he will likely win. I can't wait to see your angry hateful rants after McCain wins. I know it's inevitable, but he won't have my support.

  • JonCummings

    Well, come back in 49 days. I'm guessing you'll be disappointed either way.