Comments on: Pop Politico: “Swing! Swing! Swing!” http://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/ your daily dose of pop culture Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:35:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51816 DwDunphy Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:12:25 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=5291#comment-51816 Now that's what I'm talking about. Do you think they'd bother if oil was at $30 a barrel? I doubt it. Now that's what I'm talking about. Do you think they'd bother if oil was at $30 a barrel? I doubt it.

]]> By: Tedhttp://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51815 Ted Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:41:45 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=5291#comment-51815 Talk about innovation during hard times:<br><br><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/09/BURK12R1VB.DTL" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/...</a> Talk about innovation during hard times:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/…

]]> By: Tedhttp://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51820 Ted Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:37:08 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=5291#comment-51820 Palin's quote on Saturday: "The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers. The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help."<br><br>McCain/Palin support the government bailout, and it's a bailout where the state has nationalized a big chunk of the financial sector. So ... given all that, how can McCain/Pailn be for the bailout and against it at the same time? That's "real change" from the "Maverick Twins from Different Mothers." Palin's quote on Saturday: “The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers. The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.”

McCain/Palin support the government bailout, and it's a bailout where the state has nationalized a big chunk of the financial sector. So … given all that, how can McCain/Pailn be for the bailout and against it at the same time? That's “real change” from the “Maverick Twins from Different Mothers.”

]]> By: jefitohttp://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51819 jefito Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:27:07 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=5291#comment-51819 Sorry, Boo-Boo, but no. Miz P was saying that Fannie and Freddie had BECOME too much of a tax burden for poor ol' America, so that's what this bailout is about. She doesn't know her ass from her elbow. Sadly, half the country doesn't seem to give a shit. Sorry, Boo-Boo, but no. Miz P was saying that Fannie and Freddie had BECOME too much of a tax burden for poor ol' America, so that's what this bailout is about. She doesn't know her ass from her elbow. Sadly, half the country doesn't seem to give a shit.

]]> By: Danhttp://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51818 Dan Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:01:06 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=5291#comment-51818 Your comment about Palin's comment about Fannie and Freddie being a headscratcher is a headscratcher. We taxpayers are taking the hit for this. So she's right. Right? Your comment about Palin's comment about Fannie and Freddie being a headscratcher is a headscratcher. We taxpayers are taking the hit for this. So she's right. Right?

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51813 DwDunphy Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:57:10 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=5291#comment-51813 60% of conservatives polled self-identify themselves as conservative. 36% of liberals polled identify themselves as liberals. The overwhelming majority of the American population self-identify themselves as neither, as they see pros and cons on either side of the ideological spectrum. <br><br>I do not put my trust in any side that would cultishly slide into such a cushy, easy chair and be content to watch the whole show if they only agree with parts. 60% of conservatives polled self-identify themselves as conservative. 36% of liberals polled identify themselves as liberals. The overwhelming majority of the American population self-identify themselves as neither, as they see pros and cons on either side of the ideological spectrum.

I do not put my trust in any side that would cultishly slide into such a cushy, easy chair and be content to watch the whole show if they only agree with parts.

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51817 DwDunphy Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:50:42 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=5291#comment-51817 Believe it or not, I've been known to thump my Bible too. Sure, my mouth (or web-mouth) sometimes gets spicy, but I am a committed Christian boy. Yet I don't see how McCain / Palin reflects my beliefs. <br><br>I also don't see the substance you claim is there. They had two loud talking points and a few whispery, say-em-fast talking points and, at the other side, the assertion is that if you don't vote Republican, you get oil crisis and terrorism. Obama attempted to cover a lot more ground with a more even hand. Why I should vote for a team who's overwhelming motto is now "Drill baby, drill" has not been adequately explained. Believe it or not, I've been known to thump my Bible too. Sure, my mouth (or web-mouth) sometimes gets spicy, but I am a committed Christian boy. Yet I don't see how McCain / Palin reflects my beliefs.

I also don't see the substance you claim is there. They had two loud talking points and a few whispery, say-em-fast talking points and, at the other side, the assertion is that if you don't vote Republican, you get oil crisis and terrorism. Obama attempted to cover a lot more ground with a more even hand. Why I should vote for a team who's overwhelming motto is now “Drill baby, drill” has not been adequately explained.

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51814 DwDunphy Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:44:11 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=5291#comment-51814 We're missing the big point though. Let's forget about the ecological effect of oil and coal, or the Faustian bargain we make with countries for oil, as those funds get washed clean as a whistle and sent on to those who actually might do us harm...<br><br>Oil and coal are finite resources. Would it not be better for people ten years from now if not only weren't they paying for $8 per gal. gas, but their vehicle was being powered a whole new way? A way that doesn't simply convert gas into unclaimable pollution but somehow is amenable to the cycle rather than being an obstacle?<br><br>Innovation comes from hard times, not prosperity. Hard times allow people to risk trying new ideas because they need a solution fast. Prosperity makes people complacent and lazy. Fuel efficiency actually went up in the 1970s because companies were required to make it happen during the fuel embargo. Embargo lifts, money changes hands, people get all fat and cozy and, before you know it, efficiency goes all to hell and priorities move from maximum MPG to maximum vehicle size.<br><br>If we "Drill baby, drill" and get that oil flowing again, the lines of innovation will be severed. Not may be - will be. Humans have shown again and again their inability to achieve when times are good. $8 gas ten years from now is a scary thought. Our children stringing us up in the town square for condemning them to the results of our short-sightedness? I'd say that's worse. We're missing the big point though. Let's forget about the ecological effect of oil and coal, or the Faustian bargain we make with countries for oil, as those funds get washed clean as a whistle and sent on to those who actually might do us harm…

Oil and coal are finite resources. Would it not be better for people ten years from now if not only weren't they paying for $8 per gal. gas, but their vehicle was being powered a whole new way? A way that doesn't simply convert gas into unclaimable pollution but somehow is amenable to the cycle rather than being an obstacle?

Innovation comes from hard times, not prosperity. Hard times allow people to risk trying new ideas because they need a solution fast. Prosperity makes people complacent and lazy. Fuel efficiency actually went up in the 1970s because companies were required to make it happen during the fuel embargo. Embargo lifts, money changes hands, people get all fat and cozy and, before you know it, efficiency goes all to hell and priorities move from maximum MPG to maximum vehicle size.

If we “Drill baby, drill” and get that oil flowing again, the lines of innovation will be severed. Not may be – will be. Humans have shown again and again their inability to achieve when times are good. $8 gas ten years from now is a scary thought. Our children stringing us up in the town square for condemning them to the results of our short-sightedness? I'd say that's worse.

]]> By: DwDunphyhttp://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-41391 DwDunphy Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:12:25 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=5291#comment-41391 Now that's what I'm talking about. Do you think they'd bother if oil was at $30 a barrel? I doubt it. Now that's what I'm talking about. Do you think they'd bother if oil was at $30 a barrel? I doubt it.

]]> By: Tedhttp://popdose.com/pop-politico-%e2%80%9cswing-swing-swing%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-41390 Ted Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:41:45 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=5291#comment-41390 Talk about innovation during hard times:<br><br><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/09/BURK12R1VB.DTL" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/...</a> Talk about innovation during hard times:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/…

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