Pop Politico: “Master and Servant”

A news item broke late Friday that was quite novel for political retribution stories. Lawyers representing Jose Padilla – the guy who was locked up in a Navy brig for 3 1/2 years as an “enemy combatant” for allegedly attempting to construct a so-called “dirty bomb,” but not formally charged with crimes so as to avoid a hearing at the U.S. Supreme Court – have filed a lawsuit against John Yoo, claiming that a memo he co-authored while working as an assistant attorney general for the Justice Department justified the use of physical and mental harm during interrogations. Some folks call these acts by their brand name: torture.

Who is John Yoo, and what’s at issue? Well, John now teaches at UC Berkeley’s School of Law, and the memo he worked long and hard on was known as the “Bybee Memo,” because it was signed by Jay Bybee. Nevertheless, it was later brought to light that Yoo was the primary author of the memo, and if you want to spend an hour or so reading all 50 pages, you’re more than welcome to. I did, and what I took away from the memo was – to be blunt – an elaborate rulebook for S&M that didn’t have any “safe words.”

First off, what constitutes “torture?” Well, if you’re a lawyer who is advocating for a client (who happens to be the President of the United States) and you’re asking, “hey, is it okay for me or my crew to repeatedly kick a guy in the nuts and not suffer any legal ramifications,” you thumb through the US Code to have a look and see what it says. And lo and behold, you find this:

(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under
the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical
or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering
incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his
custody or physical control;
(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged
mental harm caused by or resulting from -
(A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of
severe physical pain or suffering;
(B) the administration or application, or threatened
administration or application, of mind-altering substances or
other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or
the personality;
(C) the threat of imminent death; or
(D) the threat that another person will imminently be
subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the
administration or application of mind-altering substances or
other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or
personality; and

(3) “United States” includes all areas under the jurisdiction
of the United States including any of the places described in
sections 5 and 7 of this title and section 46501(2) of title 49.

Then you try and figure out if your client can inflict pain and suffering on his favorite punching bag without getting into any legal hot water. You give this a lot of thought and employ a team of legal researchers to help you define the boundaries of legality when it comes to physical harm. After many billable hours, you come up with the following rules:

1. The US Code covers only extreme acts of physical and mental pain.

2. Torture applies only to instances where physical pain leads to death or organ failure, whereas

3. Mental pain leads to long-term afflictions like post traumatic stress disorder.

4. Moreover, mental pain that meets the definition of torture can only be defined as such from the list above. Everything else is seemingly fair game.

5. Therefore, my client (and his agents) can legally inflict cruel, inhuman and degrading acts upon other human beings he labels “enemy combatants.” Why? Because he’s the President of the United States. Okay, let’s bracket that last part for the rest of this journey.

What’s at issue here is this: Can lawyers representing the Executive Branch be liable for the consequences of their advice – when that advice is allegedly unconstitutional? Usually, lawsuits against the government have a high dollar amount attached to them. But this case is unusual in that Padilla’s lawyers are only suing for $1.00. Yeah, only a buck. It’s not the money Padilla’s lawyers are after. It’s a stand for human rights.

But here’s a problem.

A case like this can easily spiral out of the realm of human rights and focus solely on the character of the person whose name is at the top of the lawsuit. Jose Padilla is no angel. Actually, he’s got a more-than-checkered past that includes affiliations with gangs, a road rage shooting, and, when he was a kid, alleged involvement in a gangland murder in Illinois. This guy is no Gandhi or Nelson Mandela, people who have been imprisoned for reasons that make for heroic narratives in history books, films, and TV movies on Lifetime. Nope, on its face, this guy is Grade A scum (if that’s possible). I would not want to be his friend, his neighbor, or even a co-worker.

But that’s not the issue, even though many will make it an issue if this case gets more media attention. The central question of this lawsuit is our liberties. That’s right, our liberties. Yours, mine, Padilla’s, the idiots at Fox News … whoever. Our liberties are rarely eroded from the center. Rather, they get tested at the margins with people like Padilla, who have done illegal and questionable things in their lifetime. At times, it’s very difficult to separate the individual from the constitutional issue that’s at the center of a case like this. You look at Padilla’s life and you wonder: “Why the hell should I support the efforts of a guy like that?” The short answer is: you’re not. You’re supporting the rights that are being chipped away all in the name of security – and being headed up by people who are rather straight laced on the surface.

To wit:

John Yoo’s personal background is, in contrast to Padilla’s, exemplary and admirable. However, the memo he co-authored – the one that gives the Executive Branch legal ammo to inflict physical and mental harm on individuals – is deviant on so many levels that it goes beyond S&M because, quite frankly, there are no “safe” words that can make the pain stop.

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  • J
    You're stalwart to read the 50 pg doc and break it down for us. What a disturbing document, and a very disturbing trend in U.S. policy.

    I sometimes wonder how long this stuff has been going on...is it new with Bush, or has our govt. been doing this for decades?
  • I'm sure our government has been doing this before this the memo came out. As a domestic example: before the Miranda case, city police departments around the country had been doing quite a few, um, questionable things with individuals they arrested. After Miranda (You know, "You have the right to remain silent..."), individuals arrested had legal recourse if they were treated in a manner that violated their rights. Re: US Code against torture...the prohibition against torture comes out of the 1980s when the UN adopted a convention against it. The US signed on and folded much of the language into the US Code. What Yoo and his ilk were doing was trying to find away around those laws so they could inflict harm on individuals without legal consequences.
  • It's a personal opinion that, yes, these things have happened long before the Bush Administration but had always been kept hush-hush. On the inside, officials felt it necessary to tease out hints that their terrorist-hunting capacities had not been quashed. Especially in the two year segment after 9-11, the public was amenable to whatever was deemed necessary and they wanted proof that it was going down.

    Now, it would have been much wiser for all involved to zip up with business as usual. They'd never have been implicated in any fashion, I think. But the fact that they needed to tantalize the public with bits of info of their "vigilance" caused cracks in the dam of secrecy.

    I don't think torture is right. I think it goes against the ideals I've held as an American, that it is just something we don't do. And yet, now I fear it is something we have always done, only it took someone to slap a hint of it on the table for us to finally draw that conclusion.
  • And if we don't want to get our hands dirty doing it, we outsource it -- with the fancy name of "rendition."
  • Well, we already outsource everything... Why not our sins as a nation as well?
  • Go here to read one man's own experiences with waterboarding himself. Absolutely harrowing, and should close the door as far as arguing whether this tactic qualifies as "torture". But then again, I'm probably preaching to the choir here.
  • Yeah, I haven't really met too many people who chant "Up with torture!" But as a technique used to extract useful information, it's fairly useless because the person being tortured will eventually tell their pain master whatever they want to hear just to make the pain stop -- whether it's the truth or not.
  • And there's the Faustian bargain. Waterboarding is very useful in extracting information. It is not guaranteed to extract truthful information.

    Torture is torture is torture - but how much sadder it is when the ultimate goal of it is a useless lie! It's like selling your soul for a Ponzi scheme.
  • You probably preaching to the choir, but it was a great read just the same. (S&M manual without any safe words, very clever.) I was living in Chicago when Padilla was arrested, so I remember the sensationalist "Is he a terrorist?" headlines on the evening news every night. That was back when I read Salon every day. After a while, I just stopped. It got too depressing. Maybe that makes me a bad citizen, I don't know.
  • Thanks David! Stories like these are depressing, but I don't think it makes one a bad citizen to unplug. You gotta give these things a rest for your own mental health. I had to do that last year for a few months. Too much political reading and writing was kind of bringing me down.
  • The Atlantic Monthly had an article last May by Mark Bowden (author of Black Hawk Down) about the gentler methods of coersion used by military interrogators in Iraq, and how they extracted the information that eventually brought down Zarqawi. I highly recommend the article. This sort of work requires patient, professional techniques to yield good information. Not torture. Interestingly, the possibility that these prisoners might be sent to Abu Ghraib was in fact one of the "sticks" that was effectively used to get terrorists/insurgents to yield useful information, the "carrot" being a way to avoid that facility. It was effective because of Abu Ghraib's reputation.

    I'm not sure how much it affects popular sentiment, but our entertainment in the post 9-11 world is rife with various forms of torture. And frankly, given the kind of naked evil we are dealing with in the Islamist world, it does give the viewer a kind of satisfaction, seeing Jack Bauer inflict pain on some of these folks who would gladly blow up their own grandmothers. I'm not saying it's right, but it might contribute to a certain ambivalence in the American public about the torture of "grade A scum," as you term them.

    Point of fairness: If the rights of Americans are based on Constitutional rights, and if Constitutional rights are based on a view of human rights granted by God -- rights that ought to be protected by the state, it should not matter whether a person is a citizen or not. Similar rights should apply to citizen or non-citizen in these kinds of cases, no matter the charge, because they are human beings carrying with them the same intrinsic rights as other human beings. (Padilla is a citizen, I think, but it should not matter.)

    Still, as Chief Executive in time of war, I'm certain it has been as much a temptation for this President to cross the line in torture as it was for Lincoln to override habeus corpus. It's hard to approve, but it shouldn't be hard to understand. I don't really weep for Padilla, but heaven help the innocent guy who gets caught up in the system. It is a genuine concern.
  • A temptation? Please. GWB gets off on it. So much of the bullshit macho posturing he's done since September 11th has been to try to erase his humiliating memory of those seven minutes, when he sat, bewildered and frozen, after he had been told that "American is under attack".
  • Do you honestly believe that if you were in the Chief Executive's office, you would be willing to eschew extreme coercive measures -- torture by many definitions -- if you thought it could prevent more incidents like the bombings in London and Spain or the two World Trade Center attacks? Really? You're that committed to a piece of paper (Geneva Convention) that this would override your fear, not only for the citizens of the country, but also of the blame that would inevitably fall on you if such a tragedy were to recur on our soil? If so, you're a very strong man, but I think you have no conception of the pressures that a President, any President, is under.

    Frankly, I think you're in no position to psychoanalyse the President, nor am I. What, pray tell, are your credentials, anyway?
  • Just a piece of paper? Just the Geneva Convention? How about our ideals as a nation, Eric? How about the fact that we're supposed to be the white hats of the world? Wasn't it your boy Jesus who supposedly said that it didn't have to be easy to be right?

    And as to your last point: This is America. The President works for us. Those are all the credentials we need to analyze his performance in the office we gave him.
  • You don't seem to have grasped that I'm agreeing with you. (I am not defending the President. I think Lincoln was wrong, too. FDR interred the Japanese. Chief executives do these kinds of things, in violation of human rights, in extreme situations.) But I am agreeing with you from the standpoint of human rights emanating from God, as stipulated correctly in our founding documents as a nation. And we should stand for those principles. Bush should have been stronger. However, what we see in leaders on both the left and right is an inability to stand up for principles. That was the point about Clinton using rendition. Not to defend it or Bush. Good grief. I am more of a Ron Paul kind of conservative -- clearly not in Bush's camp on a lot of issues.
  • JonCummings
    I'm with Jefito here. Every American should feel free to psychoanalyze the president; that's in large part what presidential elections are about these days, isn't it? Besides, when a president offers as much grist for the psychoanalytical mill as this one has, we really have no choice.

    I'll add one thing to Jefito's defense of the Geneva Conventions and our (former) standing as a "white hat." Torture has been proven, time and time again, to NOT WORK. A president of the United States not only should uphold the Constitution and our treaty agreements--he should use common sense, and avoid atrocities that are going to inflame people around the world without any real informational benefit.
  • Eric: you make some good points in your comments -- esp. about the popular culture mainstreaming torture that Bush and Co. just figure it's okay to make the fictional world of 24 a reality. Also, Bowden is corrent on effect techniques to extract good intel from your enemies, and I'm glad the Atlantic Monthly published his views.

    But Zack is dead on with Bush's attempt to extract much more blood from his enemies (some of whom are putative) than what was shed on 9/11. Bush's problem is that while he may have compassion in heart, he listens to his brain (i.e., Karl Rove) more. The blood lust after 9/11 was so strong that Rove knew it would pay political dividends
    for years if Bush's administration could take the public mood and craft it into policies that would make up for his inaction during 9/11. For a guy who said that Jesus was his favorite philospher in the 2000 campaign, Bush's "deeds" are more akin to Imperial Rome than that famous guy who was nailed to cross over 2000 years ago.
  • Laluna
    Stuff like this scares me. Yeah I always knew that any rule/law could be changed conveniently for the highest bidder, or political leader. This is where the ostrich effect comes in; stick your head in a hole because there isn’t much you can do about it, unfortunately.
  • Speakig of "outsourcing torture," according to the New Yorker piece "Outsourcing Torture" by Jane Mayer (Feb 14, 2005), rendition was a Clinton Administration invention. Credit where credit is due.
  • Clinton was a jiveass. Still, I would have assumed that after almost eight years, the right would have come up with a better retort than "Clinton did it."
  • JonCummings
    Evidence on this is sketchy,and while Mayer said Clinton did use rendition she does NOT say he invented it, or that he used it for the purpose of torture. Others have said Clinton and previous administrations used rendition very rarely, to get foreign suspects prosecuted more quickly, not (or at least not merely) interrogated in ways that US laws prevent. There's no evidence that Clinton employed "black sites" or other nefarious Bush/Cheney inventions.
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