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> <channel><title>Comments on: Pop Politico: &#8220;Obama&#8217;s Neo Pragmatism&#8221;</title> <atom:link href="http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/</link> <description>your daily dose of pop culture</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 23:57:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Ted</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-52918</link> <dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:23:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=12304#comment-52918</guid> <description>I just turned in my notice today.  I didn&#039;t know there was a triplicate form I had to fill out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just turned in my notice today.  I didn&#39;t know there was a triplicate form I had to fill out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-52917</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:45:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=12304#comment-52917</guid> <description>Say it ain&#039;t so, Ted!  How come I didn&#039;t get prior approval on this move?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say it ain&#39;t so, Ted!  How come I didn&#39;t get prior approval on this move?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ted</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-42105</link> <dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:23:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=12304#comment-42105</guid> <description>I just turned in my notice today.  I didn&#039;t know there was a triplicate form I had to fill out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just turned in my notice today.  I didn&#39;t know there was a triplicate form I had to fill out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-42104</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:45:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=12304#comment-42104</guid> <description>Say it ain&#039;t so, Ted!  How come I didn&#039;t get prior approval on this move?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say it ain&#39;t so, Ted!  How come I didn&#39;t get prior approval on this move?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ted</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-25094</link> <dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:23:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=12304#comment-25094</guid> <description>I just turned in my notice today.  I didn&#039;t know there was a triplicate form I had to fill out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just turned in my notice today.  I didn&#39;t know there was a triplicate form I had to fill out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-25093</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:45:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=12304#comment-25093</guid> <description>Say it ain&#039;t so, Ted!  How come I didn&#039;t get prior approval on this move?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say it ain&#39;t so, Ted!  How come I didn&#39;t get prior approval on this move?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ted</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-25077</link> <dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:45:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=12304#comment-25077</guid> <description>Knowing what you know about how business gets done between Washington and Big Money, what would you do to carve out a deal between the two groups?  Would ideology win over the pressures of governance -- especially when those who elected you want you to both &quot;fix things&quot; and &quot;change things.&quot;  Which do you tackle first?  That&#039;s why I see Obama as a pragmatist and not really cynical in terms of his political actions.  So far, he&#039;s been very practical about addressing our current crises (and you&#039;ve got to admit that no one in recent U.S. history has had to face what he&#039;s inherited).  I think most Americans are willing to give him time for things to work.  They aren&#039;t expecting an overnight miracle, but from the reaction of the chattering classes, it&#039;s clear many are. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;ONE FINAL NOTE:&lt;/b&gt;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;I just wanted to say that this is my final Pop Politico column for Popdose.  Thanks so much for reading this little slice of commentary for the past year.  I think there has been some lively discussion in the comments section, and it&#039;s clear the readers here have a passion for politics -- and are articulate about it.  I&#039;m not leaving Popdose (I&#039;ll still be doing the weekly Mix Six and contributing to staff features) but, for me, this column has reached the end.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks again for reading!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ted</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing what you know about how business gets done between Washington and Big Money, what would you do to carve out a deal between the two groups?  Would ideology win over the pressures of governance &#8212; especially when those who elected you want you to both &#8220;fix things&#8221; and &#8220;change things.&#8221;  Which do you tackle first?  That&#39;s why I see Obama as a pragmatist and not really cynical in terms of his political actions.  So far, he&#39;s been very practical about addressing our current crises (and you&#39;ve got to admit that no one in recent U.S. history has had to face what he&#39;s inherited).  I think most Americans are willing to give him time for things to work.  They aren&#39;t expecting an overnight miracle, but from the reaction of the chattering classes, it&#39;s clear many are.</p><p><b>ONE FINAL NOTE:</b></p><p><i>I just wanted to say that this is my final Pop Politico column for Popdose.  Thanks so much for reading this little slice of commentary for the past year.  I think there has been some lively discussion in the comments section, and it&#39;s clear the readers here have a passion for politics &#8212; and are articulate about it.  I&#39;m not leaving Popdose (I&#39;ll still be doing the weekly Mix Six and contributing to staff features) but, for me, this column has reached the end.</p><p>Thanks again for reading!</i></p><p>Ted</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: autodidact</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-25065</link> <dc:creator>autodidact</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:48:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=12304#comment-25065</guid> <description>I have ideological sympathy with what the Republican Party has claimed to be, but certainly not what they are. They are mostly heretical supporters of the political religion of individual rights, traditional values, and economic freedom. Heretical. They say, but not do. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I mean by &quot;free lunch&quot; is that during the campaign, Obama promised many, many things, and claimed they would be paid for. Everyone with an IQ above single digits knew in their heart of hearts it could not be paid for. Hence the cognitive dissonance of believing in and voting for the promise, the hope, knowing the means to make good on that promise did not exist. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your point about the unpredictability of the future is well-taken. However it is undeniable that a dollar I loan to the US Government to pay for these wonderful stimulus &quot;investments&quot; (like a $150 million face lift for the Smithsonian) is a dollar not invested in corporate bonds, not deposited in a bank to shore up their balance sheets, not spent at the local Best Buy. The amount of money the government is trying to borrow is causing a giant sucking sound. What goes one place cannot go elsewhere. And we wonder why corporations are having difficulty in borrowing at reasonable rates? And of course that which is not borrowed is printed, diminishing the value of every dollar you have in your pocket or bank account. (Plus, if you divide the cost of the bailout by the number of jobs claimed to be created, it will cost about $200,000 per job. So there is an efficiency question here as well. How much friggin&#039; administrative cost is involved in creating these jobs?) Obama has said that long term we have to be more responsible. Good grief!!! Why not start today? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t want to make this too long, but can&#039;t  neglect mentioning again the dirty little secret that Obama will be bailing out the big money guys  far more (in dollar terms) than his plan bails out the middle and lower classes. At the same time he is bashing the management of Wall Street and bankers whose firms received public assisstance, his Treasury Secretary is working out a multi-trillion dollar rescue for those same firms which, if successful, will revive the stocks, and thus the fortunes, of those same management fatcats he is now shaming for their high bonuses. Cynical politics at its worst. Yah, read all about it:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/06/smick.bailout/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/06/smick.ba...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Essentially, the administration is offering the bankers an implicit deal. Even though senior executives from banks receiving government assistance will face limits on their salaries, the value of their personal shareholdings in their companies -- where for most executives the big money is -- could potentially be restored if bank stocks rise in response to the bailout. In many cases, those shareholdings are now all but worthless paper.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have ideological sympathy with what the Republican Party has claimed to be, but certainly not what they are. They are mostly heretical supporters of the political religion of individual rights, traditional values, and economic freedom. Heretical. They say, but not do.</p><p>What I mean by &#8220;free lunch&#8221; is that during the campaign, Obama promised many, many things, and claimed they would be paid for. Everyone with an IQ above single digits knew in their heart of hearts it could not be paid for. Hence the cognitive dissonance of believing in and voting for the promise, the hope, knowing the means to make good on that promise did not exist.</p><p>Your point about the unpredictability of the future is well-taken. However it is undeniable that a dollar I loan to the US Government to pay for these wonderful stimulus &#8220;investments&#8221; (like a $150 million face lift for the Smithsonian) is a dollar not invested in corporate bonds, not deposited in a bank to shore up their balance sheets, not spent at the local Best Buy. The amount of money the government is trying to borrow is causing a giant sucking sound. What goes one place cannot go elsewhere. And we wonder why corporations are having difficulty in borrowing at reasonable rates? And of course that which is not borrowed is printed, diminishing the value of every dollar you have in your pocket or bank account. (Plus, if you divide the cost of the bailout by the number of jobs claimed to be created, it will cost about $200,000 per job. So there is an efficiency question here as well. How much friggin&#39; administrative cost is involved in creating these jobs?) Obama has said that long term we have to be more responsible. Good grief!!! Why not start today?</p><p>I don&#39;t want to make this too long, but can&#39;t  neglect mentioning again the dirty little secret that Obama will be bailing out the big money guys  far more (in dollar terms) than his plan bails out the middle and lower classes. At the same time he is bashing the management of Wall Street and bankers whose firms received public assisstance, his Treasury Secretary is working out a multi-trillion dollar rescue for those same firms which, if successful, will revive the stocks, and thus the fortunes, of those same management fatcats he is now shaming for their high bonuses. Cynical politics at its worst. Yah, read all about it:</p><p><a
href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/06/smick.bailout/" rel="nofollow"></a><a
href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/06/smick.ba" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/06/smick.ba</a>&#8230;</p><p>&#8220;Essentially, the administration is offering the bankers an implicit deal. Even though senior executives from banks receiving government assistance will face limits on their salaries, the value of their personal shareholdings in their companies &#8212; where for most executives the big money is &#8212; could potentially be restored if bank stocks rise in response to the bailout. In many cases, those shareholdings are now all but worthless paper.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Laluna</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-25039</link> <dc:creator>Laluna</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:05:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=12304#comment-25039</guid> <description>I think Reagan will roll in his grave with regards to that picture you posted.  Scary!&lt;br&gt;How you look at this Obama plan really equates to if see a glass half full, or half empty. As far as the Republicans views on anything Democratic, It will always be the view as the glass half empty.&lt;br&gt;I am hoping that this will be the era of &quot;The Great Clean Up.&quot; For so long the problems that have been festering the United States, the government has just slapped a band aide on it.  Now these problems are a large crater of a sore that is eating away at the bone of our Country.  As you so faithful believe Obama has removed the band aide so to speak and trying to treat the infection&lt;br&gt;with the best possible &quot;Obama made&quot; solution.  We the people will just have to sit back and hope that some type of healing will occur.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Reagan will roll in his grave with regards to that picture you posted.  Scary!<br
/>How you look at this Obama plan really equates to if see a glass half full, or half empty. As far as the Republicans views on anything Democratic, It will always be the view as the glass half empty.<br
/>I am hoping that this will be the era of &#8220;The Great Clean Up.&#8221; For so long the problems that have been festering the United States, the government has just slapped a band aide on it.  Now these problems are a large crater of a sore that is eating away at the bone of our Country.  As you so faithful believe Obama has removed the band aide so to speak and trying to treat the infection<br
/>with the best possible &#8220;Obama made&#8221; solution.  We the people will just have to sit back and hope that some type of healing will occur.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: steve</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-obamas-neo-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-25024</link> <dc:creator>steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:09:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/?p=12304#comment-25024</guid> <description>Autodidact makes great points.  And let&#039;s not forget that any 7th grade economics student can tell you that if you print too much money, you de-value that money and get inflation.  This pork sandwich turns the money presses up to &quot;11&quot;, to use Spinal Tap terminology, and that&#039;s one of the scariest things in it to me.  The sheer volume of the additional money they&#039;re putting into the market, it&#039;s spooky.  No one is an expert (or they would have predicted us getting into this situation in the first place),  so we&#039;ll be entering uncharted territory with this newly printed zillions, but some theorize this could collapse the dollar and lead to inflation of unprecedented levels.  Yippy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Obama scare tactics claim of Armageddon and death to America if we don&#039;t do anything, I think doom is more likely to come about if this horrible thing gets passed.  He&#039;s 3 weeks into his presidency and he may well be sealing his legacy for good right now, and it&#039;s probably not gonna be a good one unless that bill gets changed for the better at the last minute.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Autodidact makes great points.  And let&#39;s not forget that any 7th grade economics student can tell you that if you print too much money, you de-value that money and get inflation.  This pork sandwich turns the money presses up to &#8220;11&#8243;, to use Spinal Tap terminology, and that&#39;s one of the scariest things in it to me.  The sheer volume of the additional money they&#39;re putting into the market, it&#39;s spooky.  No one is an expert (or they would have predicted us getting into this situation in the first place),  so we&#39;ll be entering uncharted territory with this newly printed zillions, but some theorize this could collapse the dollar and lead to inflation of unprecedented levels.  Yippy.</p><p>The Obama scare tactics claim of Armageddon and death to America if we don&#39;t do anything, I think doom is more likely to come about if this horrible thing gets passed.  He&#39;s 3 weeks into his presidency and he may well be sealing his legacy for good right now, and it&#39;s probably not gonna be a good one unless that bill gets changed for the better at the last minute.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>

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