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> <channel><title>Comments on: Pop Politico: Spare Change</title> <atom:link href="http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/</link> <description>your daily dose of pop culture</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 23:57:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/comment-page-1/#comment-52512</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:17:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/#comment-52512</guid> <description>No kidding.  When we arrived in California five years ago, after starting my son&#039;s education in the New York suburbs, we were appalled at the lack of state funding for the schools and the endless fundraising required just to provide what we considered basic educational services (like art, for crying out loud!).  We actuallly talked our school&#039;s PTA into abandoning its incessant, nickel-and-dime fundraising in favor of a requested once-a-year contribution from each family--a voluntary tax, if you will--that has done a more efficient job of getting money into the art, music, science and other programs.  I&#039;m happy that most parents in our school can afford the contribution to make up for the state&#039;s lack of appropriate support; it doesn&#039;t make me any less disgusted with the lack of funding in L.A. neighborhoods where the parents can&#039;t afford to make up the difference.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No kidding.  When we arrived in California five years ago, after starting my son&#39;s education in the New York suburbs, we were appalled at the lack of state funding for the schools and the endless fundraising required just to provide what we considered basic educational services (like art, for crying out loud!).  We actuallly talked our school&#39;s PTA into abandoning its incessant, nickel-and-dime fundraising in favor of a requested once-a-year contribution from each family&#8211;a voluntary tax, if you will&#8211;that has done a more efficient job of getting money into the art, music, science and other programs.  I&#39;m happy that most parents in our school can afford the contribution to make up for the state&#39;s lack of appropriate support; it doesn&#39;t make me any less disgusted with the lack of funding in L.A. neighborhoods where the parents can&#39;t afford to make up the difference.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/comment-page-1/#comment-52514</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:09:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/#comment-52514</guid> <description>I don&#039;t buy the libertarian equation of low taxes with &quot;freedom&quot;--never have and never will.  I believe an advanced, civilized society has an obligation to promote equality of opportunity and access, and a responsibility to help the needy in all sorts of ways.  Government should and must exist with a scope (and with appropriate revenues, obtained from all citizens according to their ability to contribute) that emphasizes those obligations at least as much as it caters to the self-interest of those who have enough.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t believe that a large enough proportion of individual citizens, either on their own or through the &quot;middlemen&quot; of charities, would choose to contribute enough of their time, energy and money to fulfill those societal obligations with adequate scope, scale or financing.  In our times, only government is able to do that.  (That is not to say that government will do this perfectly, or with optimum efficiency.  That depends on the people who legislate and manage the programs--and I know one group of people who recently have proven they are NOT qualified, or capable, or even particularly interested in running a high-functioning government.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The root of it is this:  Are we in this together, or is it each man for himself?  The latter may have worked in the dark ages, but in modern civilization I simply believe that the imperative of humankind is to ensure the survival and sustenance of those least able to contribute themselves.  Government, for all its flaws and for all the disagreements about how best to manage it, has long since been proven the best and most equitable vehicle for fulfilling that purpose.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t buy the libertarian equation of low taxes with &#8220;freedom&#8221;&#8211;never have and never will.  I believe an advanced, civilized society has an obligation to promote equality of opportunity and access, and a responsibility to help the needy in all sorts of ways.  Government should and must exist with a scope (and with appropriate revenues, obtained from all citizens according to their ability to contribute) that emphasizes those obligations at least as much as it caters to the self-interest of those who have enough.</p><p>I don&#39;t believe that a large enough proportion of individual citizens, either on their own or through the &#8220;middlemen&#8221; of charities, would choose to contribute enough of their time, energy and money to fulfill those societal obligations with adequate scope, scale or financing.  In our times, only government is able to do that.  (That is not to say that government will do this perfectly, or with optimum efficiency.  That depends on the people who legislate and manage the programs&#8211;and I know one group of people who recently have proven they are NOT qualified, or capable, or even particularly interested in running a high-functioning government.)</p><p>The root of it is this:  Are we in this together, or is it each man for himself?  The latter may have worked in the dark ages, but in modern civilization I simply believe that the imperative of humankind is to ensure the survival and sustenance of those least able to contribute themselves.  Government, for all its flaws and for all the disagreements about how best to manage it, has long since been proven the best and most equitable vehicle for fulfilling that purpose.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: eric</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/comment-page-1/#comment-52513</link> <dc:creator>eric</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:52:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/#comment-52513</guid> <description>&quot;What&#039;s needed in this country isn&#039;t just change, but greenback DOLLARS and people with the brains to use them wisely.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who could argue with that? However, since we have little evidence of &quot;brains to use them wisely,&quot; why should they be given more dollars? Let people use their own dollars in a way that seems best to them. It&#039;s called &quot;freedom.&quot; I can&#039;t claim that individuals are more intelligent than the government in spending their money. But at least there&#039;s no middleman.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What&#39;s needed in this country isn&#39;t just change, but greenback DOLLARS and people with the brains to use them wisely.&#8221;</p><p>Who could argue with that? However, since we have little evidence of &#8220;brains to use them wisely,&#8221; why should they be given more dollars? Let people use their own dollars in a way that seems best to them. It&#39;s called &#8220;freedom.&#8221; I can&#39;t claim that individuals are more intelligent than the government in spending their money. But at least there&#39;s no middleman.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: eric</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/comment-page-1/#comment-52509</link> <dc:creator>eric</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:44:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/#comment-52509</guid> <description>Of course you are 100% correct. The Republican party has completely lost its way. Ron Paul would be the man, if not for his &quot;magical thinking&quot; about Islamist terror.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you are 100% correct. The Republican party has completely lost its way. Ron Paul would be the man, if not for his &#8220;magical thinking&#8221; about Islamist terror.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 1Py_Korry1</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/comment-page-1/#comment-52515</link> <dc:creator>1Py_Korry1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:49:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/#comment-52515</guid> <description>One example of defunding government departments:  The purges in the State Department that took place after McCarthy launched his hunt for commies in the U.S. had the consequence of leading us deeper into the Vietnam conflict.  Why? Because the folks who understood the conflict in Vietnam was a nationalist movement and not part of a world-wide communist expansion were replaced by people who would go along with ideology of the &quot;Red Scare.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One example of defunding government departments:  The purges in the State Department that took place after McCarthy launched his hunt for commies in the U.S. had the consequence of leading us deeper into the Vietnam conflict.  Why? Because the folks who understood the conflict in Vietnam was a nationalist movement and not part of a world-wide communist expansion were replaced by people who would go along with ideology of the &#8220;Red Scare.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 1Py_Korry1</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/comment-page-1/#comment-52511</link> <dc:creator>1Py_Korry1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:34:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/#comment-52511</guid> <description>Well put Jon!  One of the &quot;hidden costs&quot; of keeping taxes low (esp. in schools) is the never-ending fundraising that goes on to keep schools afloat.  We&#039;ve become conditioned to accept paying more for education -- but only when it comes to &quot;our&quot; kids. If it&#039;s a general tax for education, it&#039;s spun as the end of the world.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put Jon!  One of the &#8220;hidden costs&#8221; of keeping taxes low (esp. in schools) is the never-ending fundraising that goes on to keep schools afloat.  We&#39;ve become conditioned to accept paying more for education &#8212; but only when it comes to &#8220;our&#8221; kids. If it&#39;s a general tax for education, it&#39;s spun as the end of the world.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 1Py_Korry1</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/comment-page-1/#comment-52510</link> <dc:creator>1Py_Korry1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:25:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/#comment-52510</guid> <description>I suppose that&#039;s because most elected officials are only in the game for a short period of time -- which often results in short-sighted solutions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose that&#39;s because most elected officials are only in the game for a short period of time &#8212; which often results in short-sighted solutions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 1Py_Korry1</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/comment-page-1/#comment-52508</link> <dc:creator>1Py_Korry1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:23:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/#comment-52508</guid> <description>Eric:  you demonstrate your frustration with political system (which is pretty much an American pastime), but since you&#039;re on the right politically, you must know that Republicans are just as interested in securing government largess as Democrats --it&#039;s just that the spending priorities differ. Re: Gov&#039;t getting &quot;Lean and mean...&quot;  I can&#039;t imagine a candidate asking for people to vote for him/her by saying &quot;If elected, I plan on bringing home less money and doing very little to help improve things around here.&quot; Candidates are certainly more artful in their use of language, but the message is pretty clear:  Government will &quot;shrink&quot; for those deemed undeserving, but government services will remain the same for YOU (i.e., those who are deserving).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric:  you demonstrate your frustration with political system (which is pretty much an American pastime), but since you&#39;re on the right politically, you must know that Republicans are just as interested in securing government largess as Democrats &#8211;it&#39;s just that the spending priorities differ. Re: Gov&#39;t getting &#8220;Lean and mean&#8230;&#8221;  I can&#39;t imagine a candidate asking for people to vote for him/her by saying &#8220;If elected, I plan on bringing home less money and doing very little to help improve things around here.&#8221; Candidates are certainly more artful in their use of language, but the message is pretty clear:  Government will &#8220;shrink&#8221; for those deemed undeserving, but government services will remain the same for YOU (i.e., those who are deserving).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 1Py_Korry1</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/comment-page-1/#comment-52507</link> <dc:creator>1Py_Korry1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:21:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/#comment-52507</guid> <description>Good suggestions!  Stevens was a kind of last minute add as I was wrapping up the post.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good suggestions!  Stevens was a kind of last minute add as I was wrapping up the post.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonCummings</title><link>http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/comment-page-1/#comment-42121</link> <dc:creator>JonCummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://popdose.com/pop-politico-spare-change/#comment-42121</guid> <description>No kidding.  When we arrived in California five years ago, after starting my son&#039;s education in the New York suburbs, we were appalled at the lack of state funding for the schools and the endless fundraising required just to provide what we considered basic educational services (like art, for crying out loud!).  We actuallly talked our school&#039;s PTA into abandoning its incessant, nickel-and-dime fundraising in favor of a requested once-a-year contribution from each family--a voluntary tax, if you will--that has done a more efficient job of getting money into the art, music, science and other programs.  I&#039;m happy that most parents in our school can afford the contribution to make up for the state&#039;s lack of appropriate support; it doesn&#039;t make me any less disgusted with the lack of funding in L.A. neighborhoods where the parents can&#039;t afford to make up the difference.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No kidding.  When we arrived in California five years ago, after starting my son&#39;s education in the New York suburbs, we were appalled at the lack of state funding for the schools and the endless fundraising required just to provide what we considered basic educational services (like art, for crying out loud!).  We actuallly talked our school&#39;s PTA into abandoning its incessant, nickel-and-dime fundraising in favor of a requested once-a-year contribution from each family&#8211;a voluntary tax, if you will&#8211;that has done a more efficient job of getting money into the art, music, science and other programs.  I&#39;m happy that most parents in our school can afford the contribution to make up for the state&#39;s lack of appropriate support; it doesn&#39;t make me any less disgusted with the lack of funding in L.A. neighborhoods where the parents can&#39;t afford to make up the difference.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>

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