Comments on: Popdose Flashback: Milli Vanilli and the Triumph of Substance http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/ your daily dose of pop culture Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:34:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Maximum Shine http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/comment-page-1/#comment-41709 Maximum Shine Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:36:21 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=15471#comment-41709 Who cares if the band is real (I mean, I do, but that's me), but most kids today believe that as long as the songs sound good; it doesn't matter (and there is something to that philosophy...the days of guitar driven rock where artists were only viewed as important if they wrote themselves are numbered). There were tons of assembled groups, faked groups for the album cover, and studio bands turned "legit" bands for years before Milli Vanilli. But most of them never toured. That is the problem with Milli Vanilli; they shouldn't have toured (and made the fans deal...a lot of side-project bands never tour no matter how much fans adore them). Who cares if the band is real (I mean, I do, but that's me), but most kids today believe that as long as the songs sound good; it doesn't matter (and there is something to that philosophy…the days of guitar driven rock where artists were only viewed as important if they wrote themselves are numbered). There were tons of assembled groups, faked groups for the album cover, and studio bands turned “legit” bands for years before Milli Vanilli. But most of them never toured. That is the problem with Milli Vanilli; they shouldn't have toured (and made the fans deal…a lot of side-project bands never tour no matter how much fans adore them).

]]> By: Maximum Shine http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/comment-page-1/#comment-36744 Maximum Shine Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:36:21 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=15471#comment-36744 Who cares if the band is real (I mean, I do, but that's me), but most kids today believe that as long as the songs sound good; it doesn't matter (and there is something to that philosophy...the days of guitar driven rock where artists were only viewed as important if they wrote themselves are numbered). There were tons of assembled groups, faked groups for the album cover, and studio bands turned "legit" bands for years before Milli Vanilli. But most of them never toured. That is the problem with Milli Vanilli; they shouldn't have toured (and made the fans deal...a lot of side-project bands never tour no matter how much fans adore them). Who cares if the band is real (I mean, I do, but that's me), but most kids today believe that as long as the songs sound good; it doesn't matter (and there is something to that philosophy…the days of guitar driven rock where artists were only viewed as important if they wrote themselves are numbered). There were tons of assembled groups, faked groups for the album cover, and studio bands turned “legit” bands for years before Milli Vanilli. But most of them never toured. That is the problem with Milli Vanilli; they shouldn't have toured (and made the fans deal…a lot of side-project bands never tour no matter how much fans adore them).

]]> By: Howie http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/comment-page-1/#comment-28085 Howie Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:14:33 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=15471#comment-28085 Hi, do you have the original, unreleased recording of the Keep on running album? Where there other tracks?<br>Do you have the unreleased album Back and in Atack?<br>I could give you Snaps unreleased album One day on Earth. Hi, do you have the original, unreleased recording of the Keep on running album? Where there other tracks?
Do you have the unreleased album Back and in Atack?
I could give you Snaps unreleased album One day on Earth.

]]> By: JonCummings http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/comment-page-1/#comment-27342 JonCummings Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:39:50 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=15471#comment-27342 Thanks for the comment, Jodie. At this point, on April 2, it's important to distinguish between the fact-based elements of my article and the many other elements (such as those related to Clive Davis) that were part of the April Fool's Day prank that the column also represented.<br><br>Hopefully most readers got it, but suffice to say that, in the process of inverting Milli Vanilli's history to make Rob & Fab seem like unwelcome interlopers in an otherwise upstanding enterprise, there were many facts that got fudged in order to make them seem even more ridiculous than they were.<br><br>For example, Clive Davis traditionally comes off unblemished when the Milli Vanilli story is told -- but honestly, what was that guy thinking? How did he go, in the span of four years, from endlessly hyping the (supposed) greatest singing talent in history (Whitney Houston) to giving the greenlight to a group fronted by impostors? I suppose the answer is easy -- $$$$$$$$$$ -- but that doesn't make it any more forgiveable.<br><br>In any case, the story of the real people behind Milli Vanilli is not an oft-told tale, and while the premise of this column was facetious, hopefully it at least gave some (tongue-in-cheek) credit where credit was actually due. Thanks for the comment, Jodie. At this point, on April 2, it's important to distinguish between the fact-based elements of my article and the many other elements (such as those related to Clive Davis) that were part of the April Fool's Day prank that the column also represented.

Hopefully most readers got it, but suffice to say that, in the process of inverting Milli Vanilli's history to make Rob & Fab seem like unwelcome interlopers in an otherwise upstanding enterprise, there were many facts that got fudged in order to make them seem even more ridiculous than they were.

For example, Clive Davis traditionally comes off unblemished when the Milli Vanilli story is told — but honestly, what was that guy thinking? How did he go, in the span of four years, from endlessly hyping the (supposed) greatest singing talent in history (Whitney Houston) to giving the greenlight to a group fronted by impostors? I suppose the answer is easy — $$$$$$$$$$ — but that doesn't make it any more forgiveable.

In any case, the story of the real people behind Milli Vanilli is not an oft-told tale, and while the premise of this column was facetious, hopefully it at least gave some (tongue-in-cheek) credit where credit was actually due.

]]> By: Jodie Rocco http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/comment-page-1/#comment-27336 Jodie Rocco Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:06:39 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=15471#comment-27336 Thank you Mr. Cummings for an excellent report. The additional, and for the most part, factual items were a welcome change to what is usually written about Milli Vanilli. In fact, no one has ever written about the "German StarSearch Equivalent " that I participated in called The Rudi Carrell Show. Kudos to you for digging deep! Just one thing; don't think for a moment that Clive Davis didn't know. For arguments sake let's say perhaps he didn't know the boys hadn't sung on the first single. There should, however, be no doubt whatsoever that he knew before we recorded the first album or before I spent nine weeks in Germany with the boys and my sister recording the second album, "Keep On Running", a year and a half later. The same album and tracks that were pawned off as the "real" Milli Vanilli. and later on as "Try N B". Mr. Davis most certainly knew. Thank you Mr. Cummings for an excellent report. The additional, and for the most part, factual items were a welcome change to what is usually written about Milli Vanilli. In fact, no one has ever written about the “German StarSearch Equivalent ” that I participated in called The Rudi Carrell Show. Kudos to you for digging deep! Just one thing; don't think for a moment that Clive Davis didn't know. For arguments sake let's say perhaps he didn't know the boys hadn't sung on the first single. There should, however, be no doubt whatsoever that he knew before we recorded the first album or before I spent nine weeks in Germany with the boys and my sister recording the second album, “Keep On Running”, a year and a half later. The same album and tracks that were pawned off as the “real” Milli Vanilli. and later on as “Try N B”. Mr. Davis most certainly knew.

]]> By: mojo http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/comment-page-1/#comment-27313 mojo Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:29:42 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=15471#comment-27313 btw I had only seen snippets of the youtube piece of MV's press conference I saw in full for the first time today.<br><br> I now have two cents' worth of respect for Rob+Fab as opposed to zero before. They seem more human there and not the critics' pinata they were before I saw that (RIP Rob). btw I had only seen snippets of the youtube piece of MV's press conference I saw in full for the first time today.

I now have two cents' worth of respect for Rob+Fab as opposed to zero before. They seem more human there and not the critics' pinata they were before I saw that (RIP Rob).

]]> By: DwDunphy http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/comment-page-1/#comment-27308 DwDunphy Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:02:32 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=15471#comment-27308 You forgot Ray Horton's lawsuit against Blue Sky Animation which produced Horton Hears A Who? - The case was thrown out when it was discovered the story had been written many decades before by some dude named Theodore who pretended to be a doctor. You forgot Ray Horton's lawsuit against Blue Sky Animation which produced Horton Hears A Who? – The case was thrown out when it was discovered the story had been written many decades before by some dude named Theodore who pretended to be a doctor.

]]> By: BobCashill http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/comment-page-1/#comment-27303 BobCashill Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:58:48 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=15471#comment-27303 Wait a minute...was there some kind of hoax here? This was one of my favorite bands. "Blame it on the Rain" is genius. I'm already upset about "Guiding Light" going off the air; can't take much more of this disappointment... Wait a minute…was there some kind of hoax here? This was one of my favorite bands. “Blame it on the Rain” is genius. I'm already upset about “Guiding Light” going off the air; can't take much more of this disappointment…

]]> By: Mikey http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/comment-page-1/#comment-27248 Mikey Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:47:09 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=15471#comment-27248 interesting stuff, reading about Milli Vanilli is always fun. You can't fool Clive Davis and hope to get away with it. interesting stuff, reading about Milli Vanilli is always fun. You can't fool Clive Davis and hope to get away with it.

]]> By: RockrDude http://popdose.com/popdose-flashback-milli-vanilli-and-the-triumph-of-substance/comment-page-1/#comment-27226 RockrDude Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:28:31 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=15471#comment-27226 The 2nd Milli Vanilli album is actually a tad better than the debut. It was 'fun' (funny?) when they sampled AC/DC's "Highway To Hell" for the song "Hard As Hell".<br><br>BTW.. The first issue of the "Keep On Running" single actually pictured Rob & Fab on the cover as well as what the intended cover art for the 2nd album would have looked liked, also with Rob & Fab on the cover. The 2nd album would have been titled "Keep On Running". Yes.. for some reason, I have these records. The 2nd Milli Vanilli album is actually a tad better than the debut. It was 'fun' (funny?) when they sampled AC/DC's “Highway To Hell” for the song “Hard As Hell”.

BTW.. The first issue of the “Keep On Running” single actually pictured Rob & Fab on the cover as well as what the intended cover art for the 2nd album would have looked liked, also with Rob & Fab on the cover. The 2nd album would have been titled “Keep On Running”. Yes.. for some reason, I have these records.

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