Comments on: The Producers: Molly Hatchet, the Nuge, and Missing “Budokan” http://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/ your daily dose of pop culture Sun, 27 May 2012 16:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Rob Smith Can't Say No: Shaun Cassidy Live | Popdosehttp://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/comment-page-1/#comment-54779 Rob Smith Can't Say No: Shaun Cassidy Live | Popdose Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:32:21 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=20008#comment-54779 [...] as Dark Side of the Moon. I refer you back to Popdose’s official innkeeper, Tom Werman, for a note or two on how “live” live records truly are ). For a brief, shining moment, Shaun Cassidy held the whole world in his trembling, hairless [...] [...] as Dark Side of the Moon. I refer you back to Popdose’s official innkeeper, Tom Werman, for a note or two on how “live” live records truly are ). For a brief, shining moment, Shaun Cassidy held the whole world in his trembling, hairless [...]

]]> By: Alexhttp://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/comment-page-1/#comment-51966 Alex Sat, 05 Sep 2009 05:39:19 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=20008#comment-51966 Tom, I'm LOVING your stories.<br><br>Funny coincidence, my mom was good college friends with Pat Armstrong and when I was in college in the early 90s, she got me a meeting with him to play him my band's new EP. After listening, he said he wasn't interested in anything that wasn't country music. Just then, a tall guy that looked like he could have been in Molly Hatchet walked in and Pat said, "You see this guy? He can sing his ass off, but no one cares, cause it's not country!". He suggested I stay in school, become a doctor and avoid the whole mess of a a music business. <br><br>I scoffed at the time, but I can't say I don't think of those words sometimes when I look at the clock displaying 1:36am and I'm still sitting at the console somewhere in a Hollywood studio (wishing I were playing golf somewhere on the East coast!). <br><br>Thanks for sharing your journey, it's inspiring. Tom, I'm LOVING your stories.

Funny coincidence, my mom was good college friends with Pat Armstrong and when I was in college in the early 90s, she got me a meeting with him to play him my band's new EP. After listening, he said he wasn't interested in anything that wasn't country music. Just then, a tall guy that looked like he could have been in Molly Hatchet walked in and Pat said, “You see this guy? He can sing his ass off, but no one cares, cause it's not country!”. He suggested I stay in school, become a doctor and avoid the whole mess of a a music business.

I scoffed at the time, but I can't say I don't think of those words sometimes when I look at the clock displaying 1:36am and I'm still sitting at the console somewhere in a Hollywood studio (wishing I were playing golf somewhere on the East coast!).

Thanks for sharing your journey, it's inspiring.

]]> By: Alexhttp://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/comment-page-1/#comment-41065 Alex Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:39:19 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=20008#comment-41065 Tom, I'm LOVING your stories.<br><br>Funny coincidence, my mom was good college friends with Pat Armstrong and when I was in college in the early 90s, she got me a meeting with him to play him my band's new EP. After listening, he said he wasn't interested in anything that wasn't country music. Just then, a tall guy that looked like he could have been in Molly Hatchet walked in and Pat said, "You see this guy? He can sing his ass off, but no one cares, cause it's not country!". He suggested I stay in school, become a doctor and avoid the whole mess of a a music business. <br><br>I scoffed at the time, but I can't say I don't think of those words sometimes when I look at the clock displaying 1:36am and I'm still sitting at the console somewhere in a Hollywood studio (wishing I were playing golf somewhere on the East coast!). <br><br>Thanks for sharing your journey, it's inspiring. Tom, I'm LOVING your stories.

Funny coincidence, my mom was good college friends with Pat Armstrong and when I was in college in the early 90s, she got me a meeting with him to play him my band's new EP. After listening, he said he wasn't interested in anything that wasn't country music. Just then, a tall guy that looked like he could have been in Molly Hatchet walked in and Pat said, “You see this guy? He can sing his ass off, but no one cares, cause it's not country!”. He suggested I stay in school, become a doctor and avoid the whole mess of a a music business.

I scoffed at the time, but I can't say I don't think of those words sometimes when I look at the clock displaying 1:36am and I'm still sitting at the console somewhere in a Hollywood studio (wishing I were playing golf somewhere on the East coast!).

Thanks for sharing your journey, it's inspiring.

]]> By: Alexhttp://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/comment-page-1/#comment-36075 Alex Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:39:19 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=20008#comment-36075 Tom, I'm LOVING your stories.<br><br>Funny coincidence, my mom was good college friends with Pat Armstrong and when I was in college in the early 90s, she got me a meeting with him to play him my band's new EP. After listening, he said he wasn't interested in anything that wasn't country music. Just then, a tall guy that looked like he could have been in Molly Hatchet walked in and Pat said, "You see this guy? He can sing his ass off, but no one cares, cause it's not country!". He suggested I stay in school, become a doctor and avoid the whole mess of a a music business. <br><br>I scoffed at the time, but I can't say I don't think of those words sometimes when I look at the clock displaying 1:36am and I'm still sitting at the console somewhere in a Hollywood studio (wishing I were playing golf somewhere on the East coast!). <br><br>Thanks for sharing your journey, it's inspiring. Tom, I'm LOVING your stories.

Funny coincidence, my mom was good college friends with Pat Armstrong and when I was in college in the early 90s, she got me a meeting with him to play him my band's new EP. After listening, he said he wasn't interested in anything that wasn't country music. Just then, a tall guy that looked like he could have been in Molly Hatchet walked in and Pat said, “You see this guy? He can sing his ass off, but no one cares, cause it's not country!”. He suggested I stay in school, become a doctor and avoid the whole mess of a a music business.

I scoffed at the time, but I can't say I don't think of those words sometimes when I look at the clock displaying 1:36am and I'm still sitting at the console somewhere in a Hollywood studio (wishing I were playing golf somewhere on the East coast!).

Thanks for sharing your journey, it's inspiring.

]]> By: Bottom Feeders: The Ass End of the ’80s, Part 61 | Popdosehttp://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/comment-page-1/#comment-33142 Bottom Feeders: The Ass End of the ’80s, Part 61 | Popdose Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:32:06 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=20008#comment-33142 [...] by none other than Tom Werman, so I’ll let you go back and read about his experiences with Molly Hatchet. “Satisfied Man” was produced by Terry Manning for the album The Deed Is Done, the first [...] [...] by none other than Tom Werman, so I’ll let you go back and read about his experiences with Molly Hatchet. “Satisfied Man” was produced by Terry Manning for the album The Deed Is Done, the first [...]

]]> By: side3http://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/comment-page-1/#comment-30350 side3 Sun, 07 Jun 2009 05:39:20 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=20008#comment-30350 Wasn't Budokan originally released only for the Japanese market where they were very big (I bought Budokan as an import at a then unbelievable $15.99 before they decided to release it in the US)? As such, I bet the record company probably didn't want to put a lot of cash into fixing mistakes I would think.<br><br>I am loving these stories. "Heaven Tonight" was the first Cheap Trick album I owned. With limited funds, I went with a pal to the record store and bought "Powerage" by AC/DC, and talked a pal into buying "Heaven Tonight". I only needed to hear it once before trying to come up with the money to buy my own copy. I thought it was fantastic. I love The Move, but CT's version of "California Man" is far superior to the original. Wasn't Budokan originally released only for the Japanese market where they were very big (I bought Budokan as an import at a then unbelievable $15.99 before they decided to release it in the US)? As such, I bet the record company probably didn't want to put a lot of cash into fixing mistakes I would think.

I am loving these stories. “Heaven Tonight” was the first Cheap Trick album I owned. With limited funds, I went with a pal to the record store and bought “Powerage” by AC/DC, and talked a pal into buying “Heaven Tonight”. I only needed to hear it once before trying to come up with the money to buy my own copy. I thought it was fantastic. I love The Move, but CT's version of “California Man” is far superior to the original.

]]> By: tom wermanhttp://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/comment-page-1/#comment-30319 tom werman Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:50:54 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=20008#comment-30319 I can only guess, but my guess would be that any CT recording required far less repair than most others --<br>they had been playing these songs for years, and they're excellent, confident musicians. In terms of live LP's, I'd assume that this one had very little twiddling. I can only guess, but my guess would be that any CT recording required far less repair than most others –
they had been playing these songs for years, and they're excellent, confident musicians. In terms of live LP's, I'd assume that this one had very little twiddling.

]]> By: tom wermanhttp://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/comment-page-1/#comment-30318 tom werman Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:46:32 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=20008#comment-30318 Since I only did 2 live albums, I never had to abandon a project because it wasn't good enough to fix. Both the Nugent and Beck albums were pretty easy to fix up -- whenever you don't need a lot of audience or p.a. , you can literally replace any tracks. It is admittedly difficult to match the instrument's studio sound to the live sound, but with creativity and patience, you can get there if you have to. My guess is that with any good "live" album, vocals are almost always repaired, as are guitars, and if necessary, bass as well. We all know what a big difference there is when we hear our favorite song performed live and in person after listening to the studio version 100 times.... on a tour, we typically have only one afternoon to set up the remote recording truck and mike everything WHILE the band is doing the sound check -- so at best it's a seat-of-the-pants operation, and many things can go wrong when musicians are running around, making passes at the mike, tripping, jumping up and down, walking the runway, playing an airbone drum kit upside down, and so forth -- so on balance it really is best to have a great-sounding "live" LP that's been worked over, rather than an absolutely honest affair that sounds terrible. For my money, nothing has ever beaten the Who's "Live at Leeds" for sheer energy and a really live feel. Since I only did 2 live albums, I never had to abandon a project because it wasn't good enough to fix. Both the Nugent and Beck albums were pretty easy to fix up — whenever you don't need a lot of audience or p.a. , you can literally replace any tracks. It is admittedly difficult to match the instrument's studio sound to the live sound, but with creativity and patience, you can get there if you have to. My guess is that with any good “live” album, vocals are almost always repaired, as are guitars, and if necessary, bass as well. We all know what a big difference there is when we hear our favorite song performed live and in person after listening to the studio version 100 times…. on a tour, we typically have only one afternoon to set up the remote recording truck and mike everything WHILE the band is doing the sound check — so at best it's a seat-of-the-pants operation, and many things can go wrong when musicians are running around, making passes at the mike, tripping, jumping up and down, walking the runway, playing an airbone drum kit upside down, and so forth — so on balance it really is best to have a great-sounding “live” LP that's been worked over, rather than an absolutely honest affair that sounds terrible. For my money, nothing has ever beaten the Who's “Live at Leeds” for sheer energy and a really live feel.

]]> By: Petehttp://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/comment-page-1/#comment-30247 Pete Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:34:35 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=20008#comment-30247 Hi Tom-finally got a chance to check out all your posts from your Producers series. They've all been entertaining and enlightening...thanks so much for sharing with us here. Hi Tom-finally got a chance to check out all your posts from your Producers series. They've all been entertaining and enlightening…thanks so much for sharing with us here.

]]> By: EightE1http://popdose.com/the-producers-molly-hatchet-the-nuge-and-missing-budokan/comment-page-1/#comment-30217 EightE1 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:03:35 +0000 http://popdose.com/?p=20008#comment-30217 I can't help it -- I love Double Live Gonzo even though it was tweaked in the studio. Just like I love Frampton Comes Alive, Thin Lizzy's Live and Dangerous, KISS Alive, and other live documents from that era that have, of late, been revealed to be slightly (or even significantly) less "live" than previously thought.. It is a little disappointing, but shit -- my favorite version of "Motor City Madhouse" is on Double Live Gonzo, and I'm not changing my opinion of it just cuz it was mucked with.<br><br>So Tom -- I know you didn't produce it, but do you have any idea how much of Cheap Trick At Budokan was likewise tweaked? Give it to me straight; I can take it.<br><br>Rob<br>EightE1 I can't help it — I love Double Live Gonzo even though it was tweaked in the studio. Just like I love Frampton Comes Alive, Thin Lizzy's Live and Dangerous, KISS Alive, and other live documents from that era that have, of late, been revealed to be slightly (or even significantly) less “live” than previously thought.. It is a little disappointing, but shit — my favorite version of “Motor City Madhouse” is on Double Live Gonzo, and I'm not changing my opinion of it just cuz it was mucked with.

So Tom — I know you didn't produce it, but do you have any idea how much of Cheap Trick At Budokan was likewise tweaked? Give it to me straight; I can take it.

Rob
EightE1

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