Adventures Through the Mines of Mellow Gold 51

Jason Hare February 12, 2010 50

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Welcome back to another edition of the wimpiest series on Popdose, Adventures Through the Mines of Mellow Gold! Last time we met, we covered a wonderful, wordless song — well, mostly wordless, unless you count Mang’s 1982 version or my highly superior recording with kick-ass lyrics. This week’s song might as well be wordless because, frankly, the actual lyrics don’t matter. What is important, however, is the tone of the lyrics, which — combined with the music — will go to prove that the handsome man in the miner’s hat is not only the Patron Saint of Popdose, but the Patron Saint of Mellow Gold altogether; his influence spreads over all the best Mellow Gold artists like a bad case of gonorrhea, and inspires them not only to be their Mellow Goldiest, but to pay the Mellow Gold forward. And what better day to do it than today, February 12 — which, as my buddy Matt Wardlaw pointed out in his excellent Ticket Stub series, is Michael McDonald’s birthday! Happy birthday, Michael! My birthday present to you is that I promise not to call you at midnight in celebration like I did last year. And the year before. You’ll just have to console yourself with Matt’s greeting cards.

Okay, on to the wimpy music!

Greg Guidry — Goin’ Down (download)

nullI know, I know: Who? Well, I’ll tell you, but first I’ll answer the question that many New Yorkers might have right now: no, Greg is not related to Ron Guidry, legendary pitcher for the New York Yankees. (And believe it or not, I knew who Ron was without even having to look it up!) He is, however, related to just about every other Guidry: his debut album featured his siblings Sandy, Cathie, Randy, Tito and Marlon.

Guidry (shown here making a call to a phone sex hotline) grew up in St. Louis, playing in various high school and college bands. At 23, he signed a songwriter deal with CBS, like many Mellow Gold artists at the time. In 1982, Guidry released his solo debut Over the Line, and in March of ’82 “Goin’ Down” reached #17. A second single, a duet with his sister Sandy entitled “Into My Love,”didn’t get any higher than #92 — most likely because it’s a song called  “Into My Love” sung WITH HIS SISTER.

While Guidry remained in the music business as a songwriter and occasional backing vocalists for bands such as the Allman Brothers, he didn’t record a follow-up to Over the Line until 2000, the horribly-named Soul’d Out — and, of course, it includes an updated version of “Goin’ Down,” recorded in a lower key and sounding like a wedding band cover. (No, I will not offer it for download. Buy it for $1.29 at iTunes if you dare.) Guidry died in a fire in 2003; according to Wikipedia, “His charred body was found in a car parked in his garage in Fairview, Tennessee. His death was ruled a suicide.” Yeesh. Did it suddenly get all uncomfortable in here?

So now you know more than you ever thought you would about Greg Guidry. Let’s talk about “Goin’ Down.” Lyrically, I’m sure you all can imagine how disappointed I was to find out that this song had nothing to do with oral sex. No, I can only speculate that Mr. Guidry is actually talking about falling in love with someone dangerous…or at least that’s what I get from the mysterious groove of the song and the first two lines:

I get the feeling that I’m in way over my head
I should be careful but I’m going deeper instead

Wait a minute, maybe this song is about oral sex!

The only problem is that the lyrics don’t support the whole “dangerous woman” theory past those two lines; Guidry just focuses on her awesomeness, resorting to to clichés like “she lights a fire in my soul” and “a fool could drown in her eyes.” Now, normally, I’d be irritated by this lack of commitment to a clear theme. But as I said before, the lyrics don’t matter. It’s all about the music. In fact, it’s so much about the music that I swear to you, I listened to this song upwards of ten times before I paid one lick of attention to the lyrics in the second verse. And it was a vicious cycle, too: I’d say “okay, I’m really gonna listen this time,” zone out with the song’s groove, and then suddenly realize I was into the guitar solo. Then I’d get all pissed at myself and repeat the cycle. Who gets this upset with themselves over Greg Guidry? This guy.

Enough with the lyrics — let’s get to the music. We start, of course, with just bass and keyboards — no guitar, as it should be in a Mellow Gold hit. (If you dare to utilize a guitar in this genre, it had better be acoustic, or buried deep in the mix. Or both.) So we’re off to a very McD start, no? The song immediately evokes the opening of Herb Alpert’s “Rise,” adding a little vibraslap and some synthesized strings, getting us all mellow in that lounge-suit lizard kind of way. Can’t you just see a guy in a suit with a huge collar — Dave Mason, maybe? — chest hair flowin’ in the breeze, big gold medallion around his neck, thrusting his pelvis around? No? Just me? Damn my smooth overactive imagination.

Remember I said that the lyrics don’t matter, but tone does? Listen to the backing vocals on “I wanna run by her side.” That’s Guidry singing, but is that totally McD infleunced or what? I challenge you to sing these backing vocals and not do a Michael McDonald impression. But wait! There’s more! Check out the chorus. Holy crap, right? Listen to that falsetto! Guidry is a thief! Not a Dupree-level thief, but a thief nonetheless.

Musically, the second verse is exactly the same as the first. I can’t speak to any lyrical similarities, since — as I mentioned — I haven’t been paying attention. I will note that I could swear he’s saying “Her secret passion’s got me chummed, I’ll never get free.” He’s actually saying “charmed,” but I’m not hearing the “r” sound, so I’m just thinking about him vomiting all over her. Now that’s the kind of move a Mellow Gold artist would pull! And it’s only after the second chorus that the guitars are allowed into the mix — we have a guitar solo that was probably described at the time as “searing hot.” As far as I know, a video was never made for “Goin’ Down,” but if there had been one, this would be the scene where he succumbs to the passion of the woman he’s been adoring for the past two minutes. And you know it happens in some seedy apartment where there’s a blinking neon sign right outside the fire escape. (Again, my smooth overactive imagination rears its wimpy head.)

And so the solo ends, we’re back into a chorus, and I simply cannot stop thinking about Michael McDonald. He really should be singing the backing vocals here. With a song this smooth, it’s a no-brainer, right? In fact, forget the backing vocals — he should be singing the lead vocal as well. What song isn’t improved by Michael McDonald, other than that stupid Grizzly Bear song? (Actually, it is indeed improved by McD. I just wanted to tell Grizzly Bear to go suck a dick.) Somehow, Guidry must have been directly influenced by the man in some way or another. (Could this be a more obvious setup?)

From Wikipedia:

“Born Gregory M. Guidry, in St. Louis, Missouri, he played piano and sang gospel as a child, and sang in a band with future Doobie Brother Michael McDonald as a teenager.”

IT HAS BEEN PROVEN. All bow down and worship Him!

But wait — that’s not all! Remember how I mentioned Guidry’s songwriting contract with CBS? Well, during that time, he wrote songs for England Dan & John Ford Coley, Climax Blues Band, Exile, and Robbie Dupree. Do you see? Michael McDonald not only influenced Greg Guidry’s musical style, but also inspired him to share his gift of wussitude with other Mellow Gold artists. Thank you, Mr. McDonald — and thank you, Greg Guidry, for your honorable contribution to the genre. Although you left this world too soon, we’re confident you’re relaxing up in Mellow Gold heaven, most likely writing emasculating hymns with Dan Fogelberg and Randy VanWarmer.

Thanks for goin’ down reading, and see you soon for another edition of Adventures Through the Mines of Mellow Gold!

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  • http://www.wingsforwheels.net dslifton

    Happy Birthday, McD! May your influence reign over crap like this for eternity!

  • rockymtranger

    I always loved this song, and he probably should be considered when talking about one-hit wonders of the '80s. Is it a coincidence that this song and “I Keep Forgettin'” came out in the same year? I think not.

  • Matt

    Jason, you never cease to amaze me with your ability to throw stuff like this at me. I hadn't heard of this artist/song prior to reading another amazing Mellow Gold post!

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    I had a randy van warmer once. Damn van was still cold and kept exposing itself to the neighbors.

  • Marie

    Seriously I cannot describe how much I love reading this. As a child of the 70s, and a teen of the early 80s, you are speaking my language, Jason. I remember this song, and I remember thinking it was The McD. Thanks for bringing it all back.

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  • http://lonhgairedbiy.blogspot.com/ SteveA

    I enjoyed this read so much – half wit / half pure music genius is how I describe this article. Anyways – I remember this song very well – I remember my brother having this 45 – it is a good song – but OMG – it doe bring back those memories of me listening to Cassey on AT 40!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mburke77 Michael Burke

    Three reactions to listening to this.

    1. Vibra-slap!

    2. You couldn't be more right about McD singing those backing vocals. They are tailor made for him.

    3. You undersold the guitar solo. It's a HARMONIZED guitar solo. And not an Allman Bros. harmonized guitar solo. A SCORPIONS harmonized guitar solo.

  • Michael Weiss

    What a cynical article. The guy killed himself. You treat the whole thing as a joke. Maybe the joke is you, pal…maybe it's your inane babblings that ought to be ridiculed…

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  • Djgarland22

    I know his son… have for several years… its fine that you don’t like his music. Hell… I fucking HATE Taylor Swift, but u shouldntve said anything about the mans death. Very poor taste on your part….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FQSHO732ZS6VSHO2RLPMUOONKQ twackman

    Wow dude, very unprofessional article, you are a real di@#, you think his family would appreciate how you make light of his death? What contribution have you given to the music world?

  • Theo Guidry

    Who in the hell is Tito and Marlon? Sounds like I have some uncles I didn’t know about. Also, my dad wasn’t 23 when he got signed. And the only time we listened to Michael Mcdonald was when we were with him in person. My dad was infuenced by Sam cooke more so than any other artist. I could easily go off on you for this, but I wont.

  • Theo Guidry

    Thank you!

  • Theo Guidry

    Thank you!

  • Theo Guidry

    :)

  • Theo Guidry

    :)

  • Theo Guidry

    Wow thank you guys for coming to my dads defense.

  • Theo Guidry

    Wow thank you guys for coming to my dads defense.

  • Whit

    Damn man, looks like your getting your ass handed to you…I’d hate to be in your shoes right now! Guidry’s son is my best friend and you have the nerve to write an article that half witted and stupid at that. Also maybe you should get a fact checker because you seem to be more than inaccurate. Mellow Gold=Mellow Shit! Lol!

  • Jtaylor

    Hello Jason, just thought you might wanna get your facts straight before blabbing a bunch of bs about Greg…whom you didn’t even know!!!! Thanks Asshole!

  • Theo Guidry

    Insulting Greg is in no way a compliment to Michael. They were friends; even in the same band at one time. For all you know, Michael made a career by mimicking Greg.

  • Theo Guidry

    Insulting Greg is in no way a compliment to Michael. They were friends; even in the same band at one time. For all you know, Michael made a career by mimicking Greg.

  • Theo Guidry

    Insulting Greg is in no way a compliment to Michael. They were friends; even in the same band at one time. For all you know, Michael made a career by mimicking Greg.

  • http://www.jasonhare.com Anonymous

    Hi Theo,

    I apologize if you were offended by the comments I made regarding your dad’s death. I can see that you would be offended at me saying “did it just get uncomfortable in here” or insinuating that he was writing emasculating hymns in heaven with other artists (I see this as a compliment, but to each his own). I was trying to keep the tone of the post light, but didn’t mean any disrespect towards his death.

    My intent in this series is always to poke light-hearted fun at a song and its artist, and I don’t believe that just because someone has died means that I can’t do so with their work; in fact, I think it should be judged equally no matter the end circumstance. The work stands for itself. That’s my opinion and you and your friends are welcome to disagree.

    In terms of inaccuracies:

    - “Tito and Marlon” is a joke about the Jacksons, who were also a sibling band. See, your dad recorded with all of his siblings, and so did the Jacksons. I don’t really think you have an Uncle Tito or Uncle Marlon, although if you had an uncle named Tito, I would be very jealous.

    - Wikipedia says your dad was born in 1954 and signed with CBS records in 1977, which would make him 23.

    - The Michael McDonald thing is a long-running tie-in throughout the Mellow Gold series. And I think it’s good that you listened to him when you were with him in person, because otherwise that would be rude.

    Thanks for writing.

    Best,
    Jason

  • The Guidry

    Thanks for the apology, Jason. Sorry I missed the Jackson Joke. Greg was actually born in 1950. I’m not sure where the 1954 rumor got started; probably by him.

    As for the jokes, yes- funny. I’ve heard them before. It was the criticism of his music/vocals that offended me.

  • Theo

    Hey at least you gained some popularity out of this. Looks like you’ve accomplished your goal!

  • Theo

    Hey at least you gained some popularity out of this. Looks like you’ve accomplished your goal!

  • Theo

    Hey at least you gained some popularity out of this. Looks like you’ve accomplished your goal!

  • Whit

    what about your neat little phone sex thing making fun of Greg’s cover? talk about being a LOW LIFE!!!! you really are a half ass sorry excuse of a human being! you have no respect and obviously lack any common sense what so ever!

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    Good lord. How do you cope when you’re faced with actual problems? Do you just hyperventilate and fall down?

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    Good lord. How do you cope when you’re faced with actual problems? Do you just hyperventilate and fall down?

  • http://www.popdose.com jefito

    Good lord. How do you cope when you’re faced with actual problems? Do you just hyperventilate and fall down?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FQSHO732ZS6VSHO2RLPMUOONKQ twackman

    you refer to Wikipedia for your “facts”, that should be the first red flag on your credibility.

  • Whit

    lmfao! no! all i am saying is that the comment was distasteful. you obviously didn’t read the article!

  • Theo

    I wish I could cope that easily lol. But on a more serious note, my dads death was evidently a very traumatic event for a lot of people. Long story short; I can understand the article somewhat from an outside perspective, but, it was very bad timing to fall upon it at that moment. Like I posted on my FB page, if my dad were still living and we found that, we’d laugh at it. Hell, it truly is a compliment that an almost 30 year old album was even being acknowledged. When I first read it, I was pretty livid…publicly so. But, overall, apart from having a feeling of shame being projected on my family from stating “did it just get uncomfortable in here?” the fact that his music is being sardonically trashed and compared to by a family friend (a much more succesful rival of my fathers) makes it all the more personal. Its like this dude crawled into our history and attacked every personal hang up (no pun intended here) we’ve had. Sometimes its just wise to leave death out of the picture, or at least refrain from some contrastly morbid phrases like “found his charred body” out of an article that is meant to be “light hearted humor” or whatever it was he claimed. Those words bring back specific haunting details about what happened that day, and for it to be included in an article to make people laugh; well, thats some creativity, as insensitive as it may be. It doesn’t matter who or what you’re joking about, there’s always going to be someone taking the hit. Anyway, now that thats been said, I’ll finish by saying I understand this is his job; its how he makes money. This kind of thing happens, but, I’m fortunate enough to have friends that step up to the plate, like Whitney, and say the things I don’t have the balls or guts to say. So, thanks to all of you. I’m very lucky :)

  • Theo

    I wish I could cope that easily lol. But on a more serious note, my dads death was evidently a very traumatic event for a lot of people. Long story short; I can understand the article somewhat from an outside perspective, but, it was very bad timing to fall upon it at that moment. Like I posted on my FB page, if my dad were still living and we found that, we’d laugh at it. Hell, it truly is a compliment that an almost 30 year old album was even being acknowledged. When I first read it, I was pretty livid…publicly so. But, overall, apart from having a feeling of shame being projected on my family from stating “did it just get uncomfortable in here?” the fact that his music is being sardonically trashed and compared to by a family friend (a much more succesful rival of my fathers) makes it all the more personal. Its like this dude crawled into our history and attacked every personal hang up (no pun intended here) we’ve had. Sometimes its just wise to leave death out of the picture, or at least refrain from some contrastly morbid phrases like “found his charred body” out of an article that is meant to be “light hearted humor” or whatever it was he claimed. Those words bring back specific haunting details about what happened that day, and for it to be included in an article to make people laugh; well, thats some creativity, as insensitive as it may be. It doesn’t matter who or what you’re joking about, there’s always going to be someone taking the hit. Anyway, now that thats been said, I’ll finish by saying I understand this is his job; its how he makes money. This kind of thing happens, but, I’m fortunate enough to have friends that step up to the plate, like Whitney, and say the things I don’t have the balls or guts to say. So, thanks to all of you. I’m very lucky :)

  • Cynthiawguidry

    I wouldn’t call it “popularity”

  • http://www.wingsforwheels.net dslifton

    Oh, please. This is probably the most anybody’s written about him in years, and it took over a year for anybody to care enough about it to complain.

    Jason apologized for making light of your personal tragedy, and I can’t blame you for being offended after what you have been going through. But I know Jason well enough to know that he’s sincere. By continuing to pile on after the apology, you’re coming across as trite and petty.

  • http://www.jasonhare.com Anonymous

    Theo, you’ve been the most thoughtful and measured out of anybody who has responded, and for that, I’m appreciative.

    When I wrote the article last year, I wasn’t intending to be heartless about your father’s death. I don’t think his death — or the way he died — is funny at all. I remember reading the way it was specifically written on Wikpedia and wondering how I could relay what I was reading about him (in an effort to present a history of an artist) without ruining the mood of the piece. I’m someone who uses humor (often inappropriately) in awkward situations (hence my “uncomfortable” comment), but to be honest, I didn’t give it the amount of thought I should have. And I appreciate it, because from now on (and man, I hope writing about people who have unfortunately died this way does not become a common occurrence), I’ll pause to think about how someone’s son might feel about it.

    I appreciate you saying that your dad might have found it funny. My favorite artists are the ones that can see that what I’m doing is joking around, and that there’s actually true enjoyment of the music I’m writing about (because there is). One of them even wound up writing a song specifically for our website. It’s nice to think your dad might have had a sense of humor about it.

    By the way, I don’t get paid for this. I do it for free, I do it for fun, and I do it for me and anybody who cares to read and enjoy. I don’t care about popularity. I do care to know, though, if something I’ve written has hit below the belt, so thanks for letting me know. Now please, ask your mom to stop telling me I’ll never make it as a singer in an ’80s cover band.

    Best,
    Jason

  • http://www.jasonhare.com Anonymous

    Theo, you’ve been the most thoughtful and measured out of anybody who has responded, and for that, I’m appreciative.

    When I wrote the article last year, I wasn’t intending to be heartless about your father’s death. I don’t think his death — or the way he died — is funny at all. I remember reading the way it was specifically written on Wikpedia and wondering how I could relay what I was reading about him (in an effort to present a history of an artist) without ruining the mood of the piece. I’m someone who uses humor (often inappropriately) in awkward situations (hence my “uncomfortable” comment), but to be honest, I didn’t give it the amount of thought I should have. And I appreciate it, because from now on (and man, I hope writing about people who have unfortunately died this way does not become a common occurrence), I’ll pause to think about how someone’s son might feel about it.

    I appreciate you saying that your dad might have found it funny. My favorite artists are the ones that can see that what I’m doing is joking around, and that there’s actually true enjoyment of the music I’m writing about (because there is). One of them even wound up writing a song specifically for our website. It’s nice to think your dad might have had a sense of humor about it.

    By the way, I don’t get paid for this. I do it for free, I do it for fun, and I do it for me and anybody who cares to read and enjoy. I don’t care about popularity. I do care to know, though, if something I’ve written has hit below the belt, so thanks for letting me know. Now please, ask your mom to stop telling me I’ll never make it as a singer in an ’80s cover band.

    Best,
    Jason

  • http://www.popdose.com DwDunphy

    Please don’t take this the wrong way. I’m not looking to instigate here, but just to get a clear idea of everyone’s intentions here: what would you like to see happen at this point of the conversation?

  • Theo Guidry

    Only if you promise to cover Greg Guidry songs, and Greg Guidry only…sung in a *higher* key than the original…with someone in your immediate family. (kidding) yeah, talk about awkward? Painfully so.

  • Theo Guidry

    lol speaking of instigating…I guess I kind of instigated this entire thing. I never asked anyone to leave comments for me, so, that was a surprise, but, I did get my mother involved. I can’t speak for her, so, I won’t, but, I don’t have any type of ultimate expectation for this. I read the article the other night and was offended. I think Jason and I are at a good standing now. I understand his friends having his back (as they should); they know him – I don’t. I can tell his apology was sincere. I have already thanked him. I’m not going to just completely gush over how grateful I am for him doing so, although I do appreciate it. I doubt any of us have or will lose any amount of sleep over this. But, yeah, I agree with whats his pud up there, this is getting trite and petty. I’m not sorry for my mothers reaction, even though it may have been a little cruel; however, while we’re all in this mode of comical discomfort, my last comment I thought to be humorous.

  • Theo Guidry

    lol speaking of instigating…I guess I kind of instigated this entire thing. I never asked anyone to leave comments for me, so, that was a surprise, but, I did get my mother involved. I can’t speak for her, so, I won’t, but, I don’t have any type of ultimate expectation for this. I read the article the other night and was offended. I think Jason and I are at a good standing now. I understand his friends having his back (as they should); they know him – I don’t. I can tell his apology was sincere. I have already thanked him. I’m not going to just completely gush over how grateful I am for him doing so, although I do appreciate it. I doubt any of us have or will lose any amount of sleep over this. But, yeah, I agree with whats his pud up there, this is getting trite and petty. I’m not sorry for my mothers reaction, even though it may have been a little cruel; however, while we’re all in this mode of comical discomfort, my last comment I thought to be humorous.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N6DOBRXOKKCKCB3U2M3RGBYDCE Unutterable by your earth tong

    Amen.
    Getting back to the original article and the lyrics, I always thought Guidry was referencing goin down to drowning (in love). Going down for the last time, way over my head, love going over me, going deeper (into the water), drown in her eyes all are a theme of water and drowning in love.
    Pretty obvious.

  • DJSal

    Greg Guidry’s album “Over the Line” was one of my favorites back in the day. I have it on my iPod and still listen to it all the time. Whenever one of his songs plays I crank up the volume and it takes me back to happier times. It brings back many memories of a hot girlfriend and the wonderful times we had together. The music and the lyrics are outstanding. This was pure talent and I wish there were still artists like Greg out there making music, instead of all this garbage hip hop from no talent gangsters. I can honestly say that I enjoy every song on that album, which is pretty rare for me. Greg Guidry is sorely missed but I am thankful for his contribution to the music world. I’ve always wondered what his sisters looked like who contributed vocals to his album. Such pretty voices. My best to the Guidry family. I’m so sorry for your loss.

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  • Jean Bradley990

    I was in 8th grade when this song was a hit.  Before the invention of the Internet, I could never find out who the artist was.  I finally solved the mystery by calling up DJ Barry Scott of the Lost 45′s show in Boston.  He immediately knew who Greg was, and played that song on the radio for me.  It was such a treat to hear it again!  I’m so sorry to hear about Greg’s death.  I would like to download the original version of Goin’ Down, if it’s still available anywhere.