Bottom Feeders: The Ass End of the ’80s, Part 70

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As the days go by, I’m learning more and more that my son, who’s now one year old, seems to respond to music. Whenever my wife turns on CMT or I pop on a record, he stops in his tracks, stares at the noise coming out of the big machine, and then starts bobbing his head — actually, his entire upper body — to the tunes.

So, as of last Thursday I’ve decided to play him a “classic” record each morning as we’re getting ready for the day — you know, with the hope that he’ll grow up liking daddy’s music (God help him). I’ve had four opportunities so far and I’ve chosen Peter Gabriel’s So, Arcadia’s So Red the Rose, the Time’s Ice Cream Castles, and INXS’s Kick. He seemed to like Peter Gabriel and was dancing all over the place during “Red Rain” (the first time I’ve ever seen anyone dance to that song). He also bobbed his head quite a bit during INXS’s “Guns in the Sky,” and Arcadia’s “Election Day” had him swaying back and forth. Unfortunately, Morris Day and the Time seemed to do nothing for him, but I still have plenty of formidable years ahead to get my son to blow his funky horn like dad.

Now, back to the ass end of the 1980s, i.e. songs that charted below #40 on the Billboard Hot 100 during the Reagan years, featuring our final week of artists whose names begin with the letter P.

Billy Preston
“I’m Never Gonna Say Goodbye” — 1982, #88 (download)

Billy Preston & Syreeta
“One More Time for Love” — 1980, #52 (download)

Billy Preston’s smash duet with Syreeta, “With You I’m Born Again” puts me to sleep, so if I’m listening to Billy’s singles chronologically, I just never get to these. Man, “With You” must be the slowest ballad to chart in the decade. Not like either of these tunes here are barnburners, either. I’m pretty sure “One More Time for Love” is actually a really good song, but I haven’t been in the right mood to verify that in ages.

Pretenders
“Stop Your Sobbing” — 1980, #65 (download)
“Thin Line Between Love and Hate” — 1984, #83 (download)
“My Baby” — 1987, #64 (download)

Here’s one of those artists that I’m going to learn a lot about by reading the comments. They’re pretty much universally loved, but I, of course, can’t stand their music and think they are way overrated. But as with pretty much every artist I hate, there isn’t one thing I can pinpoint or one moment where I realized it, but there has never been a point in my life where I have cared to hear a Pretenders song. The 1986 #10 hit “Don’t Get Me Wrong” is the closest I come to enjoying one of their songs. I’d be completely content if I never heard any of these three songs again.

Prince
“Controversy” — 1981, #70 (download)
“1999” — 1982, #44 (download)
“Let’s Pretend We’re Married” — 1983, #52 (download)
“Irresistible Bitch” — 1983, #52 (download)
“America” — 1985, #46 (download)
“Anotherloverholenyohead” — 1986, #63 (download)
“If I Was Your Girlfriend” — 1987, #67 (download)
“Hot Thing” — 1988, #63 (download)

On the other hand, bring on Prince! While the Pretenders are pretty much universally loved, Prince is pretty much universally considered a dick based on all the stories I’ve read about him. But he’s my favorite artist ever, so I have no complaints. Prince provided me with my favorite concert ever back on his Musicology tour. I have 707 Prince songs on my iPod (that’s not counting his artists or songs he wrote but didn’t perform), which is far and away the largest number of any musician. And one of the things I loved about Prince singles is that the B-side was usually some unreleased track. Even in the ‘90s with CD singles, he’d release remixes and alternate takes galore for each single. And then there’s the untapped vault of what is probably hundreds of great songs that pop up every now and then in various places.

As for the tracks in this series, “1999” is an interesting one to include here, as it went to #12 in June of ’83 (only 12?) but in late ’82 only managed to go to #44. It wasn’t until after “Little Red Corvette” hit that “1999” then became a bigger hit unto itself.

“Let’s Pretend We’re Married” is one of my favorite tracks from 1999 (1982), but not the most radio friendly. I have to assume that’s partially why DJs flipped the 45 over and played the B-side, “Irresistible Bitch” – though it’s not like that’s radio friendly either.

“America” is one of my favorite Prince tracks from Around the World in a Day (1985). And a lot of people forget about the awesome “Anotherloverholenyohead” from Parade (1986), the soundtrack to Prince’s directorial debut, Under the Cherry Moon. The B-side to that song, “Girls & Boys,” is one of the best songs on that record.

Both “If I Was Your Girlfriend” and the super-funky “Hot Thing” were off the near-perfect double album Sign o’ the Times (1987). “Hot Thing” is interesting because it was originally the B-side of the #10 hit, “I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man.” But unlike “Irresistible Bitch,” it didn’t chart at the same time. Instead it became a single in its own right after the run of its flip side ended.

One of the great things about Prince is that there really is no general consensus on what his best album is. 1999, Purple Rain (1984), and Sign o’ the Times are all so good, that there’s a decent split between the three of them. And for me, his best album didn’t arrive until the ‘90s, when he released what’s been dubbed “The Love Symbol Album” (1992), the unpronounceable symbol becoming his moniker in the coming years.

PRiSM
“Turn On Your Radar” — 1982, #64 (download)

While nothing could follow up the mighty Prince in my mind, at least this isn’t a half bad tune. Prism seemed to be 100 different lineups over the years, originally brought together by two recognizable names: producer Bruce Fairbairn and Jim Vallance, best known for his work with Bryan Adams. The first single (“Don’t Let Him Know”) from their 1982 album Small Change was written by Adams and Vallance and went to #39. “Turn On Your Radar” was the last song released from this Prism, with a new Prism formed just one year later with Bill Champlin in it, among others.

The Producers
“What She Does to Me” — 1981, #61 (download)

So who do you think gave the Producers their first contract? Well, of course it’s Tom Werman, who cleverly titled his Popdose series the same. The Producers were an awesome band from Atlanta, Georgia, who got a ton of love from the southeast, but not enough everywhere else to make a lasting impression.

Pseudo Echo
“Living in a Dream” — 1987, #57 (download)

Right now you’re probably saying, “Holy shit, Pseudo Echo had a song besides ‘Funky Town’?” And then you’re probably saying, “Holy shit, this sounds a lot like ‘Funky Town.’” Well, it’s true that the group wasn’t technically a one-hit wonder, and yes, parts of “Living in a Dream” do sound a whole lot like Pseudo Echo’s big hit cover song. Their 1985 album included “Living in a Dream,” but not “Funky Town” — that is, until it got rereleased in ‘87. After that they took a few years off before releasing Race in ‘89, which was more rock oriented (and flat-out sucked). Be sure to watch the video below, because the single version of the song featured in the video has a totally different structure than the version offered for download.

Psychedelic Furs
“Love My Way” — 1983, #44 (download)
“The Ghost in You” — 1984, #59 (download)
“Pretty in Pink” — 1986, #41 (download)

I was introduced to the Butler brothers for the first time around 1988 or 1989, I guess. The same two guys that first turned me on to the Cure also pumped the Psychedelic Furs into my brain as well. Though they did have four hits, I suppose they are more of a cult favorite now despite all four songs (“Heartbreak Beat” being the other) being excellent. Unfortunately, album-wise, I think their creative peak was 1981’s Talk Talk Talk.

Pure Prairie League
“I Can’t Stop the Feelin’” — 1980, #77 (download)
“You’re Mine Tonight” — 1981, #68 (download)

Surprisingly, I actually like both of these songs very much. I think the thing that shocked me is that up until last year when I pulled out a Pure Prairie League album (for reasons I don’t understand) I had no idea the singer was country superstar Vince Gill. Not that PPL was a balls-out rock band or anything, but Vince certainly went an even softer, gentler route for his solo material.

As I do with every post, it’s time for me to learn something as well. “I Can’t Stop the Feelin’” charted in 1980. I own the 45, which says it’s from the album Firin’ Up, which I don’t own (since I can probably find it in any dollar bin, I should). But Firin’ Up has the track listed as “I Can’t Stop This Feelin’,” according to PPL’s official site. Even more confusing is that Wikipedia says “I Can’t Stop the Feelin’” was a “single only” release. I listened to the 45 again, and Gill sings “I can’t stop this feelin’” in the chorus just like in the MP3 offered for download. So what’s the deal with this song — is the album version any different?

QUICK HITS
Best song: Prince, “Controversy”
Worst song: Pretenders, “Stop Your Sobbing”

TOP 40 ONLY
Pretty Poison (2); Maxi Priest (1)

Next week it’s onto the letter Q, with the best “lost” track of the entire decade!

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  • David
    Love those Prince songs ... especially "Let's Pretend We're Married. Anyone have the shorter version from the 45? I think it might be the 7 inch version... how ironic for Prince???
  • JT
    I share your sediment about the Pretenders.
    Shocked about 1999- thought it would've charted better-either way it has stood the test of time, and is still a really great song.
  • "As the days go by, I’m learning more and more that my son, who’s now one year old, seems to respond to music"--my one-year-old daughter, too. She'd probably bop to "Stop Your Sobbing" (something I'm always asking her to do anyway).
  • thefxc
    Oddly enough, back when my son was a relatively easy-to-manage one-year-old (he's now a bratty seven-year-old), I would calm him down by playing The Psychedelic Furs' Forever Now. It seems to have had little lasting impact on his listening taste.

    Pseudo Echo screwed themselves with "Funkydown." Their first album, Autumnal Park, was issued on CD a year or two ago and I cannot recommend it more enthusiastically. Track down "Listening" to hear What Should Have Been. Their first US album Love an Adventure, which included "Living In a Dream," sounds like they threw Autumnal Park in a Rupert Hine Autotune to make it palatable for American consumption. It's a great record, I love that thwawky mid-80s synth sound, but, c'mon, Funkytown.

    I do share your take on the Pretenders, except "Back on the Chain Gang" is the song I dig. I've nothing to back this up, but I get the impression that Chrissie Hynde was both smart enough and bland enough to be a Cool Rock Chick that Rolling Stone could get behind back when they were pretending post-punk wasn't happening. Throw in some drug-related deaths and a triumphant comeback and you have the formula for how a mediocre band could strike it big in the 80s.

    "Hot Thing" is the best thing Prince ever did, especially the 12" mixes. It begs to be sampled and rapped over.

    Too lazy to look it up: "What He's Got" by the Producers? Top 40, no chart at all, or 1979?
  • What He's Got was a good song, but no - it didn't chart.

    I've never heard Autumnal Park - I'll track it down. "Listening" was actually remixed and put on the european version of Love an Adventure - which I own and listened to this morning. Good song - curious what the original sounds like then.

    I love "Hot Thing" but I'd take "Housequake" first.
  • My wife despises the Pretenders, so you're not alone.

    I'm shocked by this week's list for two reasons. One, I thought there would be about six Pretty Poison songs in here, and two, that neither of the Producers' most well known songs (What's He Got, She Sheila) are here. Wow.
  • I was surprised to see that Pretty Poison only put out an EP in like 83 and their LP in 1987. They don't have anything else until the late '90s. I could have sworn they had more music than that.
  • thefxc
    Pretty Poison had a few early singles as well. They tended to re-record their songs a lot--there were multiple single releases of "Nighttime" and "Let Freedom Ring"--so the standard online discographies understate their output a bit. I think they were rushed into putting out an album after "Catch Me" became a big hit and it stunted their career--they're really an interesting band who occupied a liminal space between freestyle and synthpop. I thought "When I Look Into Your Eyes" hit the hot 100, but I guess not...

    Plus Jade Starling=cute!
  • Ted
    Well, I absolutely love the Pretenders, but I gotta say that the songs featured here are worthy of your scorn. Their first two albums (and most of Learning to Crawl) are excellent -- even though "Stop Your Sobbing" is on the first one.
  • mojo
    Lost track? Is Stacey Q in the S's, or the Q's??? HAHAHAHAHAHA
  • Haha. Stacey Q does not need to be found.
  • Ugh. Now I have her voice stuck in my head. This is gonna be a TERRIBLE day.
  • mjheyliger
    "Sign O' the Times" is one of, if not my favorite album of all time by ANYONE, but I guess I'm alone when I say "Hot Thing" is one of the weakest tracks on it. Then again, considering the quality of the album as a whole, "weak" is relative. It pretty much means I'm only semi-enthusiastic about it instead of gaga crazy "OMG this is the best song EVR!!" like I am about everything else on the album.

    Pretty Poison had a second hit? Um...what was it?
  • Pretty Poison's second hit was a remake of their single "Nighttime"
  • Pretty Poison's second hit was a remake of their song "Nighttime"
  • mc3
    Guitar Hero and Rock Band have been great tools for turning my pre-teens onto cool(er) music.

    Can't understand all the hate for the Pretenders here. Very surprising. IMHO, Chrissy kicked it during the '80s and many of their songs have stood the test of time. I suppose there is "a thin line between love and hate" so I'll just "Stop my Sobbing" now ;-)
  • WHarrisBullzEye
    I really only have one comment this week: the Producers' first two albums are awesome and should've been huge.

    That is all.
  • kingofgrief
    The Pretenders are one of those bands I've been meaning to expand the library on. I have The Singles, but I'm still missing what I consider key tracks ("My City Was Gone", "Mystery Achievement"). You folks can slag 'em all you want, but the first three albums are still on my perpetual get-someday list.

    You'll be happy to know that in recent years I've decided to forgive Mr. Nelson's dick tendencies and reintroduce him to the collection. Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain (still my favorite) and Parade are accounted for; Sign o' the Times will be my cutoff unless they ever release a properly indexed CD for Lovesexy. (Remixes and B-sides of the era are also sought.) You'll also be happy to know that "Girls & Boys" was featured on yesterday's Club Hour. Vooze applay bell, mama.

    My two favorite selections this week spring from the same source. "Love My Way" (and its equally essential flip, "I Don't Want to Be Your Shadow") got serious play on my turntable at the end of 7th grade; it also further stoked my curiosity about Todd Rundgren. A year later, "The Ghost in You" would soundtrack my end-of-junior-high-wish-I-had-a-girlfriend melancholy. The Furs are playing Houston's HoB this Saturday with the Happy Mondays, I'm still waiting to hear whether or not I have tickets.

    (BTW, the version of "Pretty in Pink" you have here is the Talk Talk Talk original, not the re-recording the movie that charted in '86. It's the better rendition by far, but not accurate in context.)

    Vince Gill didn't join PPL until '79, four years after their most enduring hit, "Amie". Those guys were as bad as Molly Hatchet with near-identical Rockwellian album covers.

    And on that note, I'll SHUT UP! Already. DAMN!
  • breadalbane
    Agreed -- this is the original single version of "Pretty In Pink", which charted in the UK. The US hit version is a fair bit different.

    I'm absolutely stunned, incidentally, at the level of animosity shown towards The Pretenders. The first three albums are great. After that, they're inconsistent, but there's usually a few worthy highlights on each album.

    Of course, Steed, you've mentioned many times that you're just usually don't like material performed by female vocalists...something else I can't get my head around. But at least you're going on record with your dislikes. So, in the spirit of identifying bands/performers that get a lot of love here, but that I personally just don't get (and would be comfortable never hearing again): The Beach Boys and Cheap Trick (sorry Tom Werman!)


    - Breadalbane (who cringes every time someone tries to convince him that Brian Wilson's a "genius")
  • Yeah, yeah - it's all I had on MP3 and I own all my furs on Vinyl so no ripping. My fault for not mentioning it. If you have it on MP3 and send it my way, I'll pop it up.

    Cheap Trick I can't agree with - as I love them, but totally with you on the Beach Boys.
  • slappyfrog
    Sending to your e-mail address from the contact us page of your site. 3 e-mails with 4 versions, maybe one is what you are looking for?
  • slappyfrog
    Oops, I suck, I just got a "mail box" full notice :( Drop me a reply comment if you'd like me to resend.
  • weird, my mailbox certainly isn't full - dave at popdose.com
  • slappyfrog
    Probably a file size issue, one is 16.5MB, trying the one you just suggested.
  • Horny version up now.
  • kingofgrief
    You just HAD to talk smack about Brian Wilson in a thread I started, didn't ya?
  • jack
    Pseudo Echo didn't have a chance here. Australian band years after Men at Work and a little before Midnight Oil's earnest lyrics, when your first big hit is a synthy remake of a disco song, you're screwed. Not that I mourn for them. I thought they sucked.

    Them and Escape Club. Ripping off Elvis Costello's "Pump It Up" stanza melody for their awful "Wild Wild West." I was really getting into Costello at that time and "West" was an obvious crib. Jerks.
  • E
    So, I am a big Prince myself. I am as old as Sign o the TImes (22) and that is by far one of my favorite albums and I think his best. ( I will give the Love symbol a listen however) One thing I would like to know, however was whether the Sign O the TImes was a really big album when it was originally released in 87, the same way Purple Rain was huge, or was it just a popular album.

    Surprised that Love my Ways wasn't higher, just because it's a really great song
  • mjheyliger
    "Sign O' the Times" was popular, but by no means was it "Purple Rain" huge. It didn't even hit the Top 5 on the album chart (what the hell were people thinking?)! It did, however, get nominated for a Grammy for Album of the Year, which "Purple Rain" didn't. It lost to U2's (awesome but still inferior) "The Joshua Tree".
  • I might add that even from the outset, the critical praise for Sign O' The Times is ecstatic. If you were to judge from those clippings alone, you would think that album was huge, but it was really only a modest seller.

    Check out Ken Shane's Cratedigger column in our archives for his impressions of the album.
  • I still remember being in eighth grade in Youngstown, Ohio, listening to "Brass in Pocket", and then hearing the DJ say that the lead singer was from Akron - who got bored one day and bought a one-way plane ticket to London. Suddenly, anything seemed possible to me. So there will be no knocking of Chrissie around me.
  • garylucy
    If anything I think the Pretenders are wildly UNDER-rated...but I certainly understand just not having a taste for something everybody loves--kudos for having the courage to admit it (and thanks as always for the great column).
    cheers,
    Gary L
    (who does not understand the appeal of Eric Clapton)
  • < (who does not understand the appeal of Eric Clapton)

    Oh man, just wait until Rock Court resurfaces. You will be very pleased...
  • Russ
    I used to be in the same "does not understand the appeal of Eric Clapton" camp. And I readily admit that 90% of his post-Derek/Dominoes solo albums are a waste of time. It is actually his session work that has much more appeal to me. There's plenty of session guitarists that are brilliant musicians and not "artists". Clapton reminds me of that, but I won't begrudge him for having a solo career; he's a side man for lots of other records simply for the love of playing whereas his solo albums are usually nothing more than cash-flow affairs. Sometimes I think that's the fault of the record business - Eric has about 2 good songs every 2 or 3 years but the record business made him do albums so there's far too much filler in his catalog.
  • Everyone should have to introduce themselves this way from now on

    Steed (who does not understand the appeal of the Pretenders)
  • If I'm not mistaken, (and I probably am,) "Stop Your Sobbing" is a Kinks tune, no?

    DwD (who does not understand the appeals process.)
  • Yep. On the Kinks debut as well.
  • I have nothing more to add to this thread than to say I miss The Kinks.
  • Russ
    And produced by Nick Lowe. It was their first single (unless there's an obscurity I don't know about). One obscurity I DO know about is Chrissie Hynde sang on a 1975 album by Chris Spedding. I'll admit the Pretenders may be a bit overrated, but Chrissie Hynde has managed to knock out a couple dozen gems over the years.
  • mbuchanan
    I do not share your POV on the relative merits of The Pretenders. As a matter of fact, they rate as one of my top ten favorites. And I don't especially think their music is locked into the 80s. Though "Mystery Achievement," "Precious" and "Tattooed Love Boys" do have a certain New Wave sensibility about them, (OK, that album reeks of the 80s,) Learning To Crawl was a great record with several great songs, "Middle Of The Road" being a killer song.

    I have stayed a fan of Chrissie Hynde through the years, and even if their later work is spottier, I always find at least a track or two to love. On Loose Screws, for instance, there was "Lie To Me," "Human" from Viva el Amour and "Boots of Chinese Plastic" from their latest, all great examples of why The Pretenders deserve our attention and respect.

    As a qualifier, I am partial to girl groups. And something about a chick with a Telecaster is quite appealing, whatever she's singing.
  • I'll give those three you mentioned a shot - I'm always up to hearing something new that might open my ears up a bit to something I wouldn't normally enjoy.

    Thanks for sharing.
  • eddie_w
    Dave, I'm right with you - I love Prince, and "Sign o' the Times" and the "Love Symbol" album are my two Prince favorites too. I'm also a big fan of the "The Gold Experience". It's similar in style to "Love Symbol", and for me, it's right up there with those other two albums. It's just too bad it kind of got lost in the shuffle during that whole "I'm a slave to Warner Bros." protest saga and aftermath.

    And, your Prince iPod track count made me curious about what was tops on mine. Turns out my #1 artist is The Beatles, with 244 tracks (a surprising close #2 was They Might Be Giants, with 224). I have a way to go to catch up with your Prince haul, though...I'm only up to 160.
  • I like the Gold Experience as well - though I just think that has a little too much filler on it. Love Symbol is great from start to finish for me (it would be even better without the interludes). It's just his funkiest record.

    My Prince haul has to be pared down a bit in the end. There's a lot of those vault songs that really have poor sound quality that I just need to get off of there...but I think when I'm done I'd be close to 600.

    If I added all my Neil Young in there I'd probably be in the 500 range - and my David Garza would blow Prince out of the water....but I don't want to shuffle to all of those!
  • eddie_w
    Oh yeah, I always forget about those ridiculous interludes on Love Symbol (that was Kirstie Alley, right?), and unfortunately there's even more of them on Gold Experience.

    And, cool, we match up again. I love David Garza too...been a big fan of his ever since he and his first band Twang Twang Shock-a-Boom played campus parties when I was in college. He does put out a lot of product, that's for sure.
  • Yep, that was Mrs. Alley.

    Word is that there was a ton more of those but Prince had to cut some things out or it would have been a double album. That's why they sound a little out of place at times. Instead of chopping out parts 4-8 he went with parts 1, 2, 4, 6 etc...chopping out middle pieces. Weird. At least the ones on Gold flow work a little better in context.

    I long for the days when Dah-veed put out music that was actually listenable. Those Twang Twang tapes are really good but from the moment he started with the damn art cloud army bears and crap he's put out a lot of unlistenable junk. I give him credit for recording a lot of songs and giving a lot away for free, but I wish he'd just wait and give me 10 really good ones. It's still hard for me to say since he's been so generous with his output though.
  • dupe again - man, I'm having issues.
  • Name
    Never thought I'd hear David Garza mentioned in this series. I love his music but agree that not all of it is that accessible to those of who love a good 3-minute pop song (hello 'Discoball World'!). Can't wait to hear the remastered Twang albums.
  • ozarkmatt
    I always liked Prism, “Don’t Let Him Know” was one of the first singles I ever bought with my own money. I have a question I have always asked on various boards over the years, but never have received any decent response. Speaking of Canadian rock bands in the early 80's, Prism had the song writing, Chilliwack had the harmonies and April Wine had the killer musicians. So how the hell did Loverboy end up with all the money?
  • Ha. Well it certainly wasn't looks, because those ugly mugs in Loverboy certainly didn't sell much.
  • ozarkmatt
    Yeah, those tight red leather pants Reno wore.

    And that is a cryin' shame, because "Sign of the Gypsy Queen" is the best damn four minutes and seventeen seconds to come out of Canada in the early 80's that wasn't on a Rush album.
  • Eric S.
    If you look at the big singles by Loverboy, it seems like a calculated effort by Dean and Reno to write hits. Most of the album cuts were written by committee with the rest of the band and guest writers.
  • JonCummings
    Excuse me? Are you doubting the soul-baring artistry of "Hot Girls in Love"?

    I discussed Prism (and Chilliwack) here last year, in case anybody missed it: http://popdose.com/jesus-of-cool-jons-singles-f...
  • Eric S.
    I still go back and listen to that first Pretenders album. I think it holds up well. If it sounds 80's, it's because they were instrumental in creating what a lot of that decade would sound like.

    I think both Prism and Producers were criminally underrated. I have collected almost all of both their 80's output, which isn't that easy since their respective original labels never did reissues.
  • Old_Davy
    Not to sling mud, but I just don't get Prince. His stuff all sounds like mediocre heavy-synth-filled-half-baked R&B to me, with very little R and even less B. Except for "I Wanna Be Your Lover". I like that one.

    I love the Pretenders debut album (released in '79, but sounds so '80's) and Learning To Crawl is right up there too. Everything else they've done is hit and miss.

    Vince Gill was not the original singer for Pure Prairie League, that would be the wonderful Craig Fuller.
  • Russ
    I don't know if it's half baked or over-indulgent. The single versions always sound 1000% percent better than the extended-to-the-point-of-boredom album versions.
  • Hingehead
    I wonder if there's a genetic toggle that determines whether you like the Pretenders or Prince - and it's impossible to like both. Personally couldn't take much of the purple one, but did like quite a bit of the '30 year old cocktail waitress"s stuff.

    Being orstralian I felt I had to pipe up re Pseudo Echo. Just one of a crop of short lived Oz bands latching onto that post new romantic, we've got a synclavier and we're not afraid to use it, synth pop/rock subgenre around 83/84.

    In my memory there in the same pigeonhole as Real Life, Dear Enemy, Kids In The Kitchen. To us Pseudo Echo were a one hit wonder BEFORE Funkytown. 'Listening' was a countdown staple, peaked at number 4 on the charts. Coming back two years later with a disco cover seemed like an act of desperation.
  • JonCummings
    I love both the Pretenders and Prince. But then, I'm a mutant -- or, if we're talking about "genetic toggles," perhaps I'm a hermaphrodite. (Prince is one, too, isn't he?)
  • Russ
    The question is does Prince like Chrissie Hynde enough to give her a song or two?
  • The Pretenders' music is quite mellow when you get right down to it.

    Sometimes, I think it should rock harder than it does...there's something about Chrissie's singing that smooths out the edges.

    But, when I'm in the mood, there's nothing better.

    If you're interested, there's a great bootleg of theirs out there. It's a FM broadcast from 2000 from the Fillmore in S.F. You can probably find it out there yourself, but if not, let me know.
  • Jonathan
    707 Prince songs? I think the world needs you to make a post with some of the best harder-to-find ones. (Sad to think there might be Prince fans who haven't yet heard "All My Dreams.")

    Agreed that the love sign album is severly underrated. 1999 will always be my fave, though.
  • I'd love to - but the web sherriff would be all over that one.
  • New series after this one: Bottom Feeders: The Ass End of Prince. Wait, that doesn't sound right.
  • Haha.
  • Sorry I'm late, was celebrating my birthday today, by celebrating Bruce Springsteen's birthday, via a tribute show/Boss' Birthday Bash put on by a local indie/college radio station. (in case you're wondering, half of it was great, the other half really sucked)

    Now then, let's see...wow a bunch of stuff I REALLY love, and then a bunch of stuff I've never heard.

    First off, kudos to you, for all four of them, on your audio babysitting choices. Glad you're raising the kid right, haha. Though how he isn't doing THE BIRD is beyond me. Hasn't he heard? It's a brand new dance! Oak tree!

    I'm glad you chose "Controversy" as this week's best song, because...seriously. Interesting that you chose not to discuss it. I was about to flip my shit over "1999"'s low placing until I saw it got re-released, but yeah, even #12 seems too low. I'd still call it this week's melty, even at #12! Though tell you what, there was a long time where if I'd never heard that song again...usually on New Years eve countdowns, every DJ on every station thinks he's the only one that is clever enough to make the realization that yes, the song is named after a year, and holy shit, it's New Year's Eve. GET IT? HAR HAR! This was REALLY annoying on NYEs 1998 and 1999. (though admittedly, '99 was spent less on being annoyed at Prince and more being annoyed at the retards who thought Y2K was going to happen and end the world - as if we're that lucky) Purple Rain remains one of my top 5 records ever. Unlike you, my love for The Kid ends at the turn of the decade, though I play the shit out of his 80s stuff enough to offset all of that.

    I never could get into The Pretenders. What I know of them is limited to their big hits, and even my interest in that fluctuates. My like or dislike of "Brass In Pocket" and "Back On the Chain Gang" varies from week to week. Right now, I could not give any less of a shit. Ask me again next week, I might be into it.

    Pseudo Echo is great. Their album Autumnal Park gets a lot of play here. Way dark and better than their later, poppier stuff, though "Living In a Dream" is still very good! And how about that goofy dance scene in Friday the 13th Part 5 when the goth chick is grooving to "His Eyes" before Jason shanks her? haha, good times.

    Did "Heartbreak Beat" actually crack the top 40? And "Heaven" didn't chart at all? But "Pretty In Pink" and "Love My Way" (the two I'd consider their most popular songs) are Bottom Feeders? Weird. Goddamn, I love the Furs. Going to see them, for the third time, in a couple weeks. Stoked. They always put on a good show.
  • Yeah, "Heartbreak Beat" cracked it - barely I think. But that was the only other one.

    I understand stopping with Prince's '80s stuff I suppose. His sound did change drastically with the NPG in the house. But all his later period stuff has something worthwhile on it. I mean Come has "Letitgo" and Rave Un2...has...um, well something. I swear. Not sure why I didn't talk about "Controversy" - I think that was just an oversight on my part.

    So you're the third person now that has mentioned Autumnal Park. I have to grab it and listen to it this weekend if I can - see what I'm missing here.

    Oak Tree!
  • Jonathan
    Rave Un2 has nothing good at all. But the remixed album, "Rave In2 the Joy Fantastic", has the stunningly sexy "Hot Wit U (Nasty Girl Remix)". A silk purse from a sow's ear. But I wish he'd gotten it right the first time.
  • kingofgrief
    I started either my first broadcast of '99 or '00 with "1999"...as essayed by The Mike Flowers Pops (you might remember their lounge-ified cover of "Wonderwall").
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